Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-19 Thread Alejandro
On my Lombard, OS 8.6 works better than 9.0.4, 9.1.1, 9.1.2, 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 I'm very happy with 8.6 and the FREE Panther (Tiger will be soon installed from the same source). I made some changes on 8.6 with ResEdit and it looks a little different (replaced the Keyboard flags, the StartUp Screen the

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-19 Thread michael Vogt
I have Lombard also but I use Panther orf everything then when My kids want watch a DVD we just boot into 9.2.2 you don't need 8.6 and if not a move you want to watch you use VLC for X works fine for some stuff but all you is a basic version of mac OS 9.2.2 Michael & Sharon Vogt <>< On Jul 19,

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-19 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Jul 19, 2004, at 5:25 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I would love to go over to your house and break your Lombard and put you out of your Mac OS X misery... I will set you FREE! You would destroy a perfectly working Macintosh? Tsk tsk. :) Only because he's suffering SO much. Hey - maybe we can do a

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-19 Thread Alejandro
I travel frequently with my PowerBook and people asks me "Hey, you should remove OS 8.6 because it's a dead OS". Then, I must explain the DVD issue. --- Marcin Wichary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would love to go over to your house and break > your Lombard and put > > you out of your Mac O

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-19 Thread Marcin Wichary
I would love to go over to your house and break your Lombard and put you out of your Mac OS X misery... I will set you FREE! You would destroy a perfectly working Macintosh? Tsk tsk. :) Marcin Wichary e:\> [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\> www.aci.com.pl/mwichary >> Attached w:\> www.aci.com.pl/mwichary

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
I would love to go over to your house and break your Lombard and put you out of your Mac OS X misery... I will set you FREE! Poor boy! La tortuga ;-) On Jul 18, 2004, at 6:19 PM, Alejandro wrote: Once they fix the DVD issue, I will support OS X with my money. They sold me the Lombard PowerBook sa

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Joshua Braddock
You guys took over my thread and used it to talk about piracy? hrmm.. tisk tisk tisk :P jk... lol but anywho.. piracy is bad.. real bad.. lol.. but ive done my share of p2p'ing lol.. i know im bad, but.. the only thing ive done on here was dnld'd office x, and used it, but ordered a copy off eb

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Tim Gochnour
On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:03 PM, Alejandro wrote: If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Apology accepted. Not sure Apple feels the same way, tho :)) -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1st/pci-powermacs list nanny "You know sometimes I get the sudden urge to run around naked. But then I just drink some Windex. It keep

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
--- Tim Gochnour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2004, at 9:00 PM, Alejandro wrote: > > > --- Tim Gochnour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Alejandro wrote: > >> > >>> "You can make yourself legal on all your > machines > >> if > >>> you buy the Family >

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Tim Gochnour
On Jul 18, 2004, at 9:00 PM, Alejandro wrote: --- Tim Gochnour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Alejandro wrote: "You can make yourself legal on all your machines if you buy the Family Pack which provides a license for up to five Macs in a home." Once they fix the DVD issue,

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
--- Tim Gochnour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Alejandro wrote: > > > "You can make yourself legal on all your machines > if > > you buy the Family > > Pack > > which provides a license for up to five Macs in a > > home." > > > > Once they fix the DVD issue, I will s

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Tim Gochnour
On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:19 PM, Alejandro wrote: "You can make yourself legal on all your machines if you buy the Family Pack which provides a license for up to five Macs in a home." Once they fix the DVD issue, I will support OS X with my money. They sold me the Lombard PowerBook saying "it will be f

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
"You can make yourself legal on all your machines if you buy the Family Pack which provides a license for up to five Macs in a home." Once they fix the DVD issue, I will support OS X with my money. They sold me the Lombard PowerBook saying "it will be fully supported By OS X" I had the chance to

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Al Poulin
Alejandro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have two G3s at home. > From Mac OS 8.1 to Mac OS 10.1 they have Original > Software. > From Jaguar, they have copies installed. > Also, I have a few friends wich are installing copies > to support me. > Myabe I'm wrong, but Apple didn't answered me so mayb

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Eugene Lee
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:03:42AM -0700, Alejandro wrote: : : I think that Apple don't care too much about their customers. I have : a Lombard PowerBook and I can't play DVDs on OS X because DVD Player : app don't support "hardware decoders". Apple suggest to boot on OS 9 : (or OS 8.6) for DVD

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Marcin Wichary
I watched the recording of Jobs in San Francisco. As far as I'm concerned, Tiger wasn't originally planned to even be mentioned until late next year. What was most likely planned was for Steve to introduce the new iMac G5 line. . which everyone knows Apple dropped the ball on. The more I thin

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
Well, maybe it's some kind of compensation. Apple will force me to keep OS 9 and they will "give me" Software for free. Anyway, I prefer to install Original Software. --- Tim Gochnour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2004, at 3:30 PM, Alejandro wrote: > > > Today, my laptop is 5 years

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
I have two G3s at home. >From Mac OS 8.1 to Mac OS 10.1 they have Original Software. >From Jaguar, they have copies installed. Also, I have a few friends wich are installing copies to support me. Myabe I'm wrong, but Apple didn't answered me so maybe they understand that they made a mistake. I also

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Jul 18, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Alejandro wrote: I will keep installing Apple Software from Copies and Apple will loose some money because of that. Exactly how many copies of OS X do you feel entitled to? You have one G3, right? How many copies does that entitle you before you're just an average

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Tim Gochnour
On Jul 18, 2004, at 3:30 PM, Alejandro wrote: Today, my laptop is 5 years old. On 2000 when OS X appeared, it was 1 year old and OS X DID NOT support the DVD Drive. And YES I'm waiting for a FIX to that issue. If no, I will install Apple Software for free on ALL my machines. I sent two letters sayi

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
Today, my laptop is 5 years old. On 2000 when OS X appeared, it was 1 year old and OS X DID NOT support the DVD Drive. And YES I'm waiting for a FIX to that issue. If no, I will install Apple Software for free on ALL my machines. I sent two letters saying this to APPLE (one to Customer Support) and

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
YES, because Apple says that OS X "supports" the PowerBook G3. They lie because they are interested on selling only. If they have the right to lie, I have the rigth to install Apple Software for free. Also, I have a similar problem with my Sony Spressa Plus Burner (USB Plus supported on OS 9 ONLY,

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Hal
Just to be clear, you're waiting for a fix from Apple to allow their new OS to play DVDs on your 5 year old Powerbook? I wouldn't hold my breath on that one... On Jul 18, 2004, at 2:03 AM, Alejandro wrote: I think that Apple don't care too much about their customers. I have a Lombard PowerBook an

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Jul 18, 2004, at 4:03 AM, Alejandro wrote: As I believe that is NOT a solution, I made the following: I installed Jaguar and Panther from copies. I'm not going to spend another cent on Apple's Incomplete Software (I believe X is). I will not pay again for Apple Software until this issue gets

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Byström
Alejandro, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I have a Lombard PowerBook and I can't play DVDs on OS >X because DVD Player app don't support "hardware >decoders". Are you certain about this? Then why do MPEG-2 files on hard disc not play well at all, but if you make a DVD of the same files, even as just an

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Byström
Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >the differentce between 10.1 and 10.2 is very much like the difference >between 7.6 and 8.1, or Windows 3.11 and windows 95; a huge difference, >like they were different OS'es, in fact. An exaggeration IMHO. >10.3 is a BIG improvement over 10.2. I agree. But 10.2

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-18 Thread Alejandro
I think that Apple don't care too much about their customers. I have a Lombard PowerBook and I can't play DVDs on OS X because DVD Player app don't support "hardware decoders". Apple suggest to boot on OS 9 (or OS 8.6) for DVD Playback. As I believe that is NOT a solution, I made the following: I i

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-17 Thread Adam Thayer
This is precisely why, actually. Steve Jobs said that MacOS X would 'last us' through the decade at least, which is why it has been 10.x.x for 5 years now. Another way to look at it is this: MacOS x.y.z x - Major Version Number - Represents a whole new core for the OS. y - Minor Version Number -

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Friday, July 16, 2004, at 11:16 PM, Joshua Braddock wrote: So, with each version release, like 10.1 to 10.2 cost money? why didnt they do like what they did with classic os's and do 8.1 costs, but 8.2-8.4 doesnt, 8.5 does, 8.6-8.9 doesnt? lol i dont under stand that.. so 10.1.1-x is free, b

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-17 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Jul 17, 2004, at 9:00 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Joshua Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, and one more thing.. If I have OS X 10.3.4 Panther, will apple let me update to OS X 10.4.1 Tiger for free? Or will I have to buy that version? That will be a "buy." Sorry. Apple will usually allow a fr

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-17 Thread Al Poulin
Joshua Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, and one more thing.. If I have OS X 10.3.4 Panther, will apple let > me update to OS X 10.4.1 Tiger for free? Or will I have to buy that > version? That will be a "buy." Sorry. Apple will usually allow a free upgrade from one major version to

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-17 Thread Marcin Wichary
So, with each version release, like 10.1 to 10.2 cost money? why didnt they do like what they did with classic os's and do 8.1 costs, but 8.2-8.4 doesnt, 8.5 does, 8.6-8.9 doesnt? lol i dont under stand that.. so 10.1.1-x is free, but 10.1 to 10.2 isnt. and 10.2 to 10.3 isnt, and 10.3 to 10.4

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-16 Thread Hal
It's called "residual revenue". Apple, like any company that is only going to sell you a major product every few years, needs to insure that they can make money on a regular basis. It's the same reason Microsoft updates Office every 2 years and makes just enough changes that if one person in you

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-16 Thread Joshua Braddock
So, with each version release, like 10.1 to 10.2 cost money? why didnt they do like what they did with classic os's and do 8.1 costs, but 8.2-8.4 doesnt, 8.5 does, 8.6-8.9 doesnt? lol i dont under stand that.. so 10.1.1-x is free, but 10.1 to 10.2 isnt. and 10.2 to 10.3 isnt, and 10.3 to 10.4

Subject: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-16 Thread Stuart Saunders
129 dollars American says its gonna cost 129 dollars American. On 17 Jul 2004, at 1:18 PM, G-Books wrote: In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Joshua Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: this is getting redundant, isnt it? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004

Re: this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-16 Thread Brian Andrews
I don't think Apple has made any official statements on the cost of Tiger but it is a safe bet that the only people who get it for free are those who buy a new Mac just before Tiger is released. The past two upgrades have been $129 and Tiger's 150 new features will probably cost us another $12

this is getting redundant, isnt it?

2004-07-16 Thread Joshua Braddock
Oh, and one more thing.. If I have OS X 10.3.4 Panther, will apple let me update to OS X 10.4.1 Tiger for free? Or will I have to buy that version? ~Joshua Braddock~ -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives