Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread Thomas Ethen
There was just a issue raised on the local TV station last week about this very topic, concerning Government HD's that were going to surplus sales and the safety of information that was previously on the drives. The conclusion of the story was that in order to be completely safe, the drive has to

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread Thomas Ethen
on 11/23/02 12:57 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Can we move on to something more important? That thread is not leading anywhere. Come on, those are not the droids you're looking for. -Laurent. G-Books list nanny Sorry Laurent, I sent my reply before I read

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/23/02 6:51 AM, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: There was just a issue raised on the local TV station last week about this very topic, concerning Government HD's that were going to surplus sales and the safety of information that was previously on the drives.

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/23/02 6:53 AM, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: on 11/23/02 12:57 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Can we move on to something more important? That thread is not leading anywhere. Come on, those are not the droids you're looking

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Ronan
Thank You Obi Wan and Laurent .. :-) Keith Ronan On 11/23/02 3:32 PM, Obi-Wan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/23/02 6:53 AM, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: on 11/23/02 12:57 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Can we move on to

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread John Haumann
On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 02:19 AM, Obi-Wan wrote: I am not saying that this thread, or your concern, is invalid... or even that your question is invalid. What I am saying is that you are not EVER guaranteed safety of data without destroying the drive...basically. OK Obi-Wan,

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-23 Thread John Haumann
On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 02:30 PM, Obi-Wan wrote: There was just a issue raised on the local TV station last week about this very topic, concerning Government HD's that were going to surplus sales and the safety of information that was previously on the drives. The conclusion

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-22 Thread Tivo
Aladdin Systems, maker of Stuffit has a product called Secure Delete. Does anyone have personal or experiential knowledge about this product's efficiency? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | --

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
On Thursday, Nov 21, 2002, at 21:04 US/Alaska, Obi-Wan wrote: They are licensed and bonded. None of your data will be shared, and if you feel so strongly about it then you better not go to an ATM in public, or use a VISA card a a store, or appear on a security camera, or (heaven forbid) get

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
Folks, Can we move on to something more important? That thread is not leading anywhere. Come on, those are not the droids you're looking for. -Laurent. G-Books list nanny -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat:

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
Mike and others thank you for the information, it has been a good education, this link leads to more info on Secure Data if anyone is interested. It is nice when people help http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0204/09.securedelete.php Geoff On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 22:38 US/Alaska,

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
Any debate on Toshiba v IBM is like Coke v Pepsi. It was in fact Transinternational who advised the IBM 40GNX was better than the Toshiba, a view I agreed with after my research fwiw. As for Trans, It in fact has taken 3 phone calls and a e-mail on 4 different days to get a RMA from Trans.

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-21 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/21/02 5:37 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Any debate on Toshiba v IBM is like Coke v Pepsi. It was in fact Transinternational who advised the IBM 40GNX was better than the Toshiba, a view I agreed with after my research fwiw. As for Trans, It in fact

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-21 Thread Greg Gilmore
What's the best way to completely wipe just the free space on your hard disk? I have PGP 7.0 but it's Free Space Wiper tells me that it can't wipe the free space because the volume integrity check failed and that the volume may be damaged. Disk First Aid doesn't however discover anything amiss.

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
This thread has been very interesting, and I thank all who have helped. So really there is no way to safely protect the information I have on this month old drive. It holds multiple online bank account numbers, passwords, 3 stock accounts, passwords and similar personal and company

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-20 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/20/02 9:56 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: This thread has been very interesting, and I thank all who have helped. So really there is no way to safely protect the information I have on this month old drive. It holds multiple online bank account

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-20 Thread Mike Amato
Aladdin Systems, maker of Stuffit has a product called Secure Delete. This is from their web page: http://www.aladdinsys.com/secure_delete/index.html Secure DeleteĀ is like a paper shredder for your computer files. If

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-19 Thread Andrew Main
Various listas wrote: Select the option to zero the drive. That not only releases the directory entries, but writes zeroes to the entire data portion of the disk. I thought I read somewhere that this option was not well supported with IDE drives, so that may work or not. The best thing to do

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-19 Thread Shawn King
On 11/18/02 8:10 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to send my 40 GNX back to trans intl, very loud and clicking sounds coming out of it right from the start and continued for last 30 days. I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. How clean is that? In other words,

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-19 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/19/02 12:27 PM, Dan K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Ah, but Obi-Wan Kyle, what does it take to actually retrieve 'real' data from a zeroed-once (or twice or thrice) drive? Is there a practical way to do it without going through a pretty serious HW recovery effort? I

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
Obi-Wan wrote: All I am saying is that there is no real safe way to be sure that your data is 100% unrecoverable, which is what the person was asking. That's all. Well, there is, but you'll lose out on the trade-in value: an industrial shredder will pretty well take care of any data

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-19 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/19/02 3:54 PM, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Obi-Wan wrote: All I am saying is that there is no real safe way to be sure that your data is 100% unrecoverable, which is what the person was asking. That's all. Well, there is, but you'll lose out on the

wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
I have to send my 40 GNX back to trans intl, very loud and clicking sounds coming out of it right from the start and continued for last 30 days. I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on 10.2 wipe it so no info will be able to be recovered or seen. If not

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread paulatx1
In a message dated 11/18/2002 9:10:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on 10.2 wipe it so no info will be able to be recovered or seen. If not what is best way delete the data I have on it. When

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread John Haumann
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 08:10 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: I have to send my 40 GNX back to trans intl, very loud and clicking sounds coming out of it right from the start and continued for last 30 days. I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 18/11/02 22:42, John Haumann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 08:10 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote: I have to send my 40 GNX back to trans intl, very loud and clicking sounds coming out of it right from the start and continued for last 30 days. I need to wipe

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread Mark_PHILIP
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Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/18/02 7:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: In a message dated 11/18/2002 9:10:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on 10.2 wipe it so no info will be able to

Re: wiping hard drive clean

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Amato
-- Mike Amato From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/18/2002 9:10:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to wipe this drive clean, really clean. Will apples disk utility on 10.2 wipe it so no info will be able to be recovered or seen. If not what is best