p.s. Re: [Megillot] For the record (TR as high priest)

Another relevant citation: "If anyone is _not_ the Teacher of Righteousness, it is Hyrkanus. Best regards, Russell Gmirkin" http://www.mail-archive.com/orion@panda.mscc.huji.ac.il/msg00822.html Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu

Re: [Megillot] For the record (TR as high priest)

I have expressed the view that Hyrcanus II was too late and too weak, among other reasons, to be TR. Russell Gmirkin, if my memory serves, also has expressed the view that Hyrcanus II was not the Teacher. (Additional bibliography if needed on request.) best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu

Re: [Megillot] TR as high priest

se he is quite unfitting? Because he was not the Teacher? Finally, GD offers the explanation that Hyrcanus II had never been proposed as TR before because of "pseudo-objections." But, if he had not been proposed, to what would scholars have been objecting, or pseudo-objecting? bes

Fwd: (Philip Davies message) Re: [Megillot] some recent publications

I forward this to the group, as his text addresses us, plural, not just me, and since I responded to it, assuming that it went to the list. Stephen - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:54:08 +0100 From: philip davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: p

Re: [Megillot] some recent publications

on to further understanding of this history. good morning, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] some recent publications

unconvincing s. goranson Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, a (my) source critical analysis of the passages you cite in Josephus shows that they originated from an account of one of the Jewish delegates who addressed Pompey in 63 BCE, and who characterized the rule of Jannaeus as

Re: [Megillot] some recent publications

tain complaints against Jannaeus that do not mention his king claim. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] some recent publications

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[Megillot] some recent publications

's FS, Writing and Ancient Near Eastern Society (2005) includes some interesting stuff, e.g, G. Brooke, "4Q341: An Exercise for Spelling or Spells?" There are many constructive developments in Qumran history research. Hopefully, if hype-publicized Rube Goldberg clay mac

[Megillot] Bio and Material Cultures at Qumran, now available

s ; 33 cm. Language: English Series: Novum testamentum et orbis antiquus.; Series archaeologica ;; 3; Standard No:ISBN: 3727814527 (Academic); 3525539738 (Vandenhoeck) best Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mai

[Megillot] Fwd: 3 Jannaeus-era groups (was Re: [ANE-2] Re: Stephen Goranson: Anti Hasmonean Scrolls, etc.

th which I largely but not fully agree. Stephen - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:51:13 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3 Jannaeus-era groups (was Re: [ANE-2] Re: Stephen Goranson: Anti Hasmonean Scrolls, etc

[Megillot] NY Times poor reporting on Qumran

picture of the Qumran material culture" That was an imprudent recommendation, given that this preliminary publication, largely based on digging in dumps, is much less completely piblished and evaluated than de Vaux's. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson _

[Megillot] Y. Magen, Pliny, Qumran inkwells; etc.

Gunneweg ed., Khirbet Qumran et Ain Feshkha (volume 2), Etudes d'anthropologie, de physique et de chemie (NTOA.SA 3, 2003). best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Qumran again: NYTimes misreporting, etc.

logy. best Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Qumran again: NYTimes misreporting, etc.

t neglect to tell the sex of those adult burials. The Cemetery and Communal rooms remain archaeological evidence, despite those who deny their relevance. good morning Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing li

[Megillot] Another Qumran misinterpretation (Magen, Peleg, NYT)

ran has not diminished but increased, because the evidence for that association has increased. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] another Copper Scroll novel; BAR Y. Magen article

e chapter that makes this claim, in my view, is one of the chapters that is not reliable and may well be read with caution. Some of the other chapters are more helpful. best Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Hasmoneans, control and not

the greatest of the Hasmoneans' (nor Herod's) worries. Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot _

[Megillot] Hasmoneans, control and not

mong the greatest of the Hasmoneans' (nor Herod's) worries. Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Qumran cemetery-the skeletons

ears he has been and still is, after all, the principal archaeologist. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] two notes

, but did not read a paper there. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Qumran cemetery-the skeletons

uot;Rereading Pliny on the Essenes: Some Bibliographic Notes": http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/symposiums/programs/Goranson98.shtml Judah the Essene lived long before Russell's "c. 4 BCE" date. Pliny and Philo and Josephus all had earlier sources. "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom,

Re: [Megillot] Qumran cemetery-minor correction

A minor correction, Greg. You wrote of "Cross's and Goranson's theory" that zealots briefly held Qumran in 68 CE. Perhaps you meant "Allegro's and Goranson's" theory. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megi

[Megillot] Qumran cemetery: two quotations

contained residue of an organic material, probably date honey [note 153] The jars date from the end of the second or the beginning of the first century BCE." [Henry Poole in 1855 excavated a burial and found no bones. See Joan Taylor PEQ 2002, 150] Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~gor

[Megillot] Bio and Material Cultures at Qumran

); and the Humbert/Gunneweg volume is in print. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene" ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] history of scholarship; google book search

rnal began publication. More work on history of scholarship may help. A lot happened before Sukenik and Trever and Dupont-Sommern and others--before deVaux--properly brought up Essenes. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene"

Re: history analysis (was Re: [Megillot] SV: osey hattora)

note. One problem is that we do not know what term the authors of the halachic texts used for this genre of legal writing, or if they even had a special term for it. Goranson has been advocating the use of "a more neutral generic name," which I am open to, but I have yet to hear what this

[Megillot] Death of Prof. John C. Trever 1915-2006

Dear friends I'm sorry to tell you, that Prof. John C. Trever (born 1915) died at Saturday morning 29th of April. He is one of the heroes in the Qumran studies. He was one of the first scholars to identify the famous Isaiahscroll (1QJesA - today in the Shrine of the book) during his time 1948 at

Re: history analysis (was Re: [Megillot] SV: osey hattora)

ir legal determinations by a more neutral generic name. Philo didn't use the term halakha either. Did the early Samaritans? The early Karaites? Calling Essene legal texts halakha--a term they rejected--confuses distinctions and self-descriptions of groups. best wishes,

history analysis (was Re: [Megillot] SV: osey hattora)

mss legal determinations is unhelpful in distinguishing the history of groups. Proposed histories which rely on such misteps cannot reasonably be relied upon. On Qumran legal matters, Joseph Baumgarten's articles are exemplary, as are his demonstrations of Qumran Essene characteristics. best, S

Re: [Megillot] SV: osey hattora

the name, a Hebrew self-designation, later put into Greek spellings (Ossaioi etc.) by outsiders. When was the first Stephen or Goranson or Soren or Holst or Russell or Gmirkin? In some cases less than 2000 years old, I guess. Can we hold in our hand a manuscripts with these names used within

[Megillot] Edna Ullmann-Margalit's book vs. Essene history

information, we will need more well-informed and coherent texts than this book offers. Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

RE: [Megillot] Re: osey hattora

dy widely recognized on other grounds, as Essene. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Re: James Tabor's new book: two notes

I (SG) forward Prof. Tabor's reply, at his request: Dear Stephen and all (please post if appropriate on the lists), Thanks so much for your correction here, mea culpa! As always you prove yourself a sharp eyed and perceptive reader. It is so hard to successfully proofread and fact check a book

RE: [Megillot] Re: osey hattora

brew possibility, thinking only Aramaic possibilities plausible during late second Temple times. best, Stephen Goranson Quoting Ken Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: To clarify, is the following the complete list of uses of the expression? Does it only occur in these two manuscripts? The "

[Megillot] Re: osey hattora

Quoting Søren Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Stephen, [] It would support your thesis, I assume, if the use of "osey hattora" was more or les restricted to the undisputedly "sectarian" corpus. I'm at home right now with only rather incomplete tools for searching the texts, but perhaps you

[Megillot] James Tabor's new book: two notes

hat the James ossuary may have come from a different tomb in Ben Hinnom valley. Those two arguments tend to undercut one another. Of course, these are fairly minor aspects of the book compared to some of its other pretty large claims, left for another occasion. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duk

[Megillot] water in Wadi Qumran

On April 2, 2006 a flash flood occurred at Qumran according to the following, with two photos: http://www.bib-arch.org/BARExclusive/bswbBARMainPage.asp Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the E

[Megillot] Strugnell memoirs?

, Jim or anyone, is he writing memoirs? I hope so--I'd buy a copy. best, Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene" (revised a bit) ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[Megillot] R. Arav review of Y. Hirschfeld, Qumran in Context

t under the pale light of the moon." best Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene" (slightly revised) ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] R. Arav review of Y. Hirschfeld, Qumran in Context

t under the pale light of the moon." best Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene" (slightly revised) ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] history of scholarship, E. Ullmann-Margalit 1998

rms. It treats refinements of the Essene history view as somehow suspect, rather than possibly progress. Multiple streams of evidence are treated as a viscious hermeneutic circle, rather than confluent evidence. This list of could be extended. I hope future publications on the relevant history of scholarship--it deserves more careful attention--are better based in the actual history of scholarship. best Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] corrected: Jozef Milik (1922-2006)

Though I noted two different first name spellings, the subject line had a typo in the last name. Of course, not Mikik, but Milik. Sorry. S.Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Jozef Mikik (1922-2006)

An obituary: http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article341010.ece Previously (noted on ane and paleojudaica), with Joseph spelling: http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],0.html RIP Stephen Goranson http://www.duke.edu/~goranson

[Megillot] Old & Young Caves?; Jannaeus; Jannes

he latter was advocated in the first edition of the Wise Abegg Cook DSS translation. (I haven't yet seen their new second edition to see if they revised their proposal.) 3. I have started to revise my article "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene" at http://www.duke

[Megillot] 2006 Qumran dig

According to Alexander Schick at http://www.bibelausstellung.de/ there will be excavation at Qumran 6 June to 31 July 2006. This may be a continuation of the Randall Price dig? best, Stephen Goranson "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene": http://www.duke.edu

Re: [Megillot] Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene

Justin, may I suggest that if you wish to understand my views, then please read http://www.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf and those works of Doudna that are fully cited there. The footnote that I quoted on this list, for example, needs to be read in context. best wishes, Stephen Goranson

[Megillot] Leviticus fragments publication

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C14, was Re: [Megillot] Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene

And recall that I wrote that some pages of the Doudna DSS After Fifty Years v.1 article provide "much helpful information." I wrote that Doudna changed his dating proposal after the Qumran Chronicle article. I ended the section by noting that Doudna's pursuit of additional data was

[Megillot] Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene

Qumran and elsewhere http://www.duke.edu/~goranson/jannaeus.pdf Apologies for cross-posting best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Re: [ANE] Re: Philo on Sadducees and Pharisees??

Philo refers to Sadducees and Pharisees. best Stephen Goranson Quoting philip davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry to be a pedant. I reread 4Qpesher Nahum and did not find the > name of Alexander Jannaeus. Has a new fragment been published? Or is > this shorthand for 'a &#x

[Megillot] Re: [ANE] Re: Philo on Sadducees and Pharisees??

, in which, reportedly, Jannaeus "slew no fewer that fifty thousaand Jews." So, for these and other reasons, I find your proposal not persuasive. best Stephen Goranson Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Stephen, > > Since the Essenes are earlier said to have

[Megillot] DSS article on fragments and sales

l.htm Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Philo on Sadducees and Pharisees??

f view, and he may here reflect Essene views on Sadducee- and Pharisee-influenced Hasmoneans, including Alexander Jannaeus, the Qumran-view Wicked Priest. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] another DSS medieval misdating

. best, Stephen Goranson Quoting philip davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can I suggest that if we are going to devote any attention to such > nonsense the list will quickly become overcrowded. This kind of stuff > ought just to be ignored. > > > > > > >

[Megillot] another DSS medieval misdating

l texts found in the caves of Wadi Murraba'at" This letter, in my view, includes much misinformation. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] DSD v.12 n.2 (2005) Table of Contents

: Rothstein, David Reconstructing and Reading 4Q416 2 ii 21: Comments on Menahem Kister's Proposal pp. 205-211(7) Author: Wold, Benjamin G. Book Reviews Book Reviews pp. 212-232(21) best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [

[Megillot] Singapore exhibit

x27;el), whether these have been or will be published (apparently a catalog for the exhibit is planned). Anyone know more? best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Qumran Science conf. abstracts

Abstracts from the 22-23 May 2005 Qumran Meeting in Jerusalem, "Material and Bio-culture in connection with Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Cost Action G8 Working Group 7" are posted at: http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/~msjan/abstracts.html best, Stephe

[Megillot] Jannes and his brother

lar the difference in the names "was scarcely perceptible." We can now see that the mention of Jannes was an attack on ("wicked priest") Jannaeus. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] Absalom, brother of Jannaeus (pesher Habakkuk v 9)

n and others give useful commentary and bibliography. It is becoming clearer that Yannai was the "wicked priest," and that his surviving brother, Absalom, was silent and did not help the "teacher of righteousness," Judah the Essene. best, Stephen Goranson __

[Megillot] Qumran and Science meeting, May, Jerusalem

Jan Gunneweg of the Hebrew University has organised a conference on Qumran and Science, May 22-23, in Jerusalem. This link gives a preliminary programme: http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/~msjan/preliminaryprogramme.html best, Stephen Goranson ___ g

[Megillot] forthcoming books, dissertations?; House of Absalom question

learn of it, so I can cite it when the occasion arises. Thanks. best, Stephen Goranson PS, BTW, Gershom Scholem, long a librarian, wrote an interesting memoir, if you like memoirs, From Berlin to Jerusalem (original in German). ___ g-Megi

[Megillot] Yannai suffering; ergon nomou

ection, were quite unlikely to become Nazarenes (later "Christians") nor bring those teachings. Among the very small minority of Jews who did become "Christians," conversations about observance of torah, evidently continued, mutatis muta

[Megillot] comb

n published. So this is a note of caution about comparing the Jerusalem comb to Qumran. On the other hand, the sifting of the Temple Mount rubble surely has yielded very interesting finds and is a worthwhile project. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Meg

Re: [Megillot] Temple scroll class

ver his corpse to Pharisees to do with as they decided?? all the best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] Temple scroll class

ond temple times and Qumran writers belittled it. No contradiction. "Halakha" was what *some* (non-Qumran) but not all Second Temple period Jews taught and observed. best wishes, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Megillot] Temple scroll class

ion. So, method-promotors and occasional "counterfactualists," please consider using the free terminology that does not distorT, as "Qumran halakha" indeed *does*. In my view, it is a unfortunate habit without any benefit. best, Stephen Goranson __

[Megillot] Temple scroll class

halakha" is used of Qumran, it obscures the fact that the Qumran/Essene legal texts did not become that mainstream, i.e., it can obscure the history of sectarianism. For your consideration, please. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot

[Megillot] "wicked" Yannai: more evidence

ry, so have the observations offered by many scholars. Hasmonean family relations are a bit complex to sort out: even Josephus's own family lineage that he gave in his Vita is still partly a puzzle. But the new data, and cooperation of historians has, IMO, considerable promise. best, Step

[Megillot] called by the name of truth (1QpHab)

riest and Judah the Essene (doer of torah) as the teacher of righteousness will help us better understanding the roots of what is later called in Greek heresy in the newly-added (attested to my knowledge only post 70 CE) negative sense and what is likewise (attested post 70) called

Re: [Megillot] house of Absalom; wicked at beginning or end

Andy, Column V, line 9 Stephen Goranson Quoting ". ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Stephen, > Where is "Absalom" in Peshe Habakkuk? > Andy ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] house of Absalom; wicked at beginning or end

and Pharisee/Rabbinic polemic. In the Essene view Jannai was at first "called by the name of truth" (pHab viii 9) and then became wicked (the wicked priest). For Raba the opposite obtained. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] the teacher, Judah, again

going behind Essenes, or beyond Essenes, or denying Essenes, but clarifying what is true and false about Essenes--plenty of both was eventually written. Not all history is knowable, but we can know some, and any history method warning us off history raises the question what such method has to

[Megillot] Max thanks

Maxine, At the moment I guess we read MMT somewhat differently. But I intend more research. And your good works helpfully remind us to consider many possibilities. Thank you. Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[Megillot] Max lecture

onclusions about D and MMT in history? What can we or you reliably say? Thank you Max. all the best, Stephen Goranson "Opposition is true friendship" --Wm. Blake ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] VanderKam on 4Q448

erKam) we can add Penner, Lorein, Harrington/Strugnell, (and me). I suggest it is time to focus on the chronology of "wicked priest" Alexander Jannaeus and "teacher of righteousness" Judah the Essene. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-

[Megillot] Verbs and War Scroll by Soren Holst

care to tell us something about your book? thanks, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

he "teacher of righteousness," and about the problems with various other candidates, but perhaps the above suffices for now. good day, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] 4Q226 frag. 6a; etcetera

ents. And potentially for comparing C14 results with DNA results--since not every sheet in a scroll need have the same date or source, but fragments of the same sheet should have. I also asked at the Schoyen Collection whether they would C14 test, or have done so, the date pen

[Megillot] the teacher and the high priest?

It has sometimes been stated that the "teacher of righteousness" had either served as the high priest or had expected to be named the high priest. Is there good reason to state that? best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Megillot] dead sea scrolls for sale....? - PseudoJubilees??

andblood.com/wysiwyg- uploads/files/downloadable_graphics/Genesis_Frag-hi.jpg best, Stephen Goranson Quoting Søren Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The article doesn't specify what the "new" fragments are, but the mention of > Hanan Eshel makes me think of the one recent refere

P.S. Re: [Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

umran mss also offer some new information on history, including information not available already in, say, Josephus, and the other currently available sources--some things not previously known--and that Qumran texts also help illuminate some of those sources. best, Stephen Gor

Re: [Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

had some secret and/or sectarian writings. But I agree that the character they called "wicked priest" would be an individual known to history. One way to determine which well-known candidate fits is to pay more attention to chronology and to sectarian developments. best, Stephen Goran

Re: [Megillot] table of contents - Dead Sea Discoveries vol. 12 no. 1 (January 2005)

Andy, I thought some list readers would be interested in the new bibliography. Those with institutional subscriptions can read these online. Should I not send this type information? If the moderator states that I ought not send such, OK. best, Stephen Goranson Quoting Andy <[EMAIL PROTEC

[Megillot] table of contents - Dead Sea Discoveries vol. 12 no. 1 (January 2005)

onal publications, and find answers to your specific research needs at www.ingenta.com. copyright 2005 ingenta [Fwd by S. Goranson] ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: [Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

y contemporary? Is one Essene? What's Essene? Some things are more readily falsified or more completely falsified than others. Falsification may not be our only tool. Another observation or invitation was to consider the most probable (tentative) reconstruction of history, the confluence of

Re: [Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

Russell, you have misrepresented my views especially in what I consider to be the support for them and possibilities for falsifying, so I doubt whether dialogue with you on such unreliable basis was much promise. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot

[Megillot] falsifying methodology; 3 cases; etc.

may do it'?--of Essenes/Ossenes. "Jewish 'Ossaioi'at all events, various writers have shown that there must be a close connection between the 'Ossaioi' and the earlier Essenes [note 12 to Lightfoot, Hilgenfeld, Th

[Megillot] John Allegro book(s), etc.

as Jannaeus and the teacher as Judah the Essene teacher. For example, on page 101 there is some concern that in pNah Demetrius may not be a contemporary, "on nearly all modern recokonings." But in my reckoning, joined by many other modern reckonings, they a

[Megillot] wicked priest ID; new R. Feather book

book (that I haven't read and that seems quite unlikely), and I found his copper scroll book (1st ed. of 2?) quite unpersuasive, but mention this as bibliography: http://www.innertraditions.com/isbn/1-59143-044-5 best Stephen Goranson ___

[Megillot] pesharim typo, Jannaeus

ting because evidence has increased that he was the "wicked priest." For instance, many of the other proposed candidates are too early or too late. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

[Megillot] DSS coming to Charlotte NC (2006)

"Dead Sea Scrolls coming to Charlotte" North Carolina starting 17 Feb., 2006: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/entertainment/events/10967779.htm?1c Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.

[Megillot] 2 archaeology publications

Roman Archaeology 17/2 (2004) 761-63. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot

Re: Epiphanius (was Re: [Megillot] Neil Altman on Qumran, Toronto Star

This proposal has been repeatedly answered. If, Jack, you wish to present a formal argument for this Aramaic proposal (apart from your other Aramaic proposal), perhaps a response would be merited. S. Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL

[Megillot] copper scroll copy question

ectric company? Pressing copper on the somewhat brittle original is something I had not heard of and, given the condition of the original, would seem a bad idea. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.McMas

Epiphanius (was Re: [Megillot] Neil Altman on Qumran, Toronto Star

, my 1990 Duke dissertation. Of course he needs to be read critically, but he is an important source on so- called heresies and minut, certainly relevant to history of Essenes at Qumran and elsewhere. best, Stephen Goranson Quoting Dierk van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Epiphan

Re: [Megillot] Neil Altman on Qumran, Toronto Star

them extensively, using many now-lost, hence quite valuable, sources. best, Stephen Goranson Quoting Dierk van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Epiphanius' half-witted Panarion is not even a tertiary source for a serious > > approach to the historicity of the DSS. Personally I have

[Megillot] Neil Altman on Qumran, Toronto Star

are medieval, without mentioning evidence that they date to the Second Temple Period. The article explicitly misrepresents texts by Epiphanius. Etc. More details available if interested. best, Stephen Goranson ___ g-Megillot mailing list

[Megillot] Davila lec. 2; halakha, etc.

of Magness. 7. Of the 3, I think Damascus=Babylon is the minority view, J M-O'C and a few students mostly. I haven't done a recent review of the literature, but I think a real exile out of Judaea and north to a land of Damascus (north of Peraea?) is (over D=Q) perhaps the first view.

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