Re: G4 4s

2011-10-14 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
I read a lot from people here and other places who say it runs slower on the G4 and once in a blue moon I still run a Classic application (although much less frequently now). However, It may be time to switch up to 10.5. Really thinking about making a jump to an Intel machine as soon as I

Re: G4 4s

2011-10-14 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
Thanks. On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:09 AM, Jesse wrote: Yes you will need to update to leopard, as I have had to do the same on my mdd dual 1.25 Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Will an iphon

No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread dc
I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Dan
At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:27, Dan ha scritto: >> I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again >> and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Never happened to me... but it seems like some hardware (or test) failing. Better course is in trying to isolate the potential "culprit" (hopin

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread dc
On Oct 14, 10:27 am, Dan wrote: > Reset the pram and nvram.http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 > Try booting with the shift key held down. > If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? > Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. > > Perhaps try di

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:47, dc ha scritto: > I tried disconnecting peripherals and > resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's > doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Another idea: pull out the PRam battery for some hours. (ok, we are at the "desperate level" but,

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:47 AM, dc wrote: > I'm > really disappointed that this seems to have been caused by the power > fluctuation because I was hooked up to an APC surge/battery backup, > but from what I've been seeing on the internet not many people seem to > think highly of APC. Have you tried

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Richard Gerome
If this surge protector is the cause and your computer is bad it may have a warranty that might cover the repairs or replacement? Some places if it's the electric companies fault they may pay you too? -Original Message- >From: dc >Sent: Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM >To: G-Group >Subj

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread dc
That's good to hear, I hope the APC did it's job and the mobo isn't damaged. Gee, you mean I can't believe everything I read on the internet?!?!? > Well "on the internet" and real life experience are two different things...we > have used them here for years for hundreds of systems. They work wel

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/14/11 8:27 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding ke

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:47, dc ha scritto: I tried disconnecting peripherals and resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Another idea: pull out the PRam battery for

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread rogerdale...@gmail.com
You still have it plugged to UPC? If so, Try plugging it straight to wall. Possible UPC Failure... :) On Oct 14, 3:17 pm, John Carmonne wrote: > On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > > > Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:47, dc ha scritto: > > >> I tried disconnecting peripherals and > >> re

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Kris Tilford
Bruce Johnson wrote: Have you tried a different keyboard? If the KB is fried, who knows what signals it's sending to the computer My thought exactly, this sounds like a bad keyboard to me. Roger Dale wrote: You still have it plugged to UPC? If so, Try plugging it straight to wall. Possi

10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Andrew Owen
Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aimi

What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?

2011-10-14 Thread smac0031
I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. I have a 1.6ghz accelerator and 1.5Gigs of ram. It seems to run pretty good since my power surge disaster last winter. So, what is the highest OS this thing will r

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Roger Hodge
Do you still have it plugged in UPC? May try plugging in wall. Possible UPC problem... :) On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 10/14/11 8:27 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now can

Is Yahoo Messenger Beta 3 Safe to Use?

2011-10-14 Thread billycarmacs
Are there any security risks using Yahoo Messenger Beta 3 on my DIgital Audio dual 533 under OS X 10.5.8? Just wondering if expert hackers could get through when I'm using Yahoo with webcam, and get at such things as Safari links and whatnot. I am not using any special Firewalls, and I have a West

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Eric Hall
That sounds very interesting indeed. From: Andrew Owen To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: 10.3.9 hacking Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the proces

Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?

2011-10-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-10-2011 18:25, smac0031 ha scritto: > I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still > use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. Theoretically, the newest OSX G4 DA can run is 10.4. IIRC you could install 10.5 on it, using some hacks (I th

Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?

2011-10-14 Thread Baha Ata
10.5.8 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM, smac0031 wrote: > I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still > use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. > > I have a 1.6ghz accelerator and 1.5Gigs of ram. It seems to run pretty > good since my power surge

Air filter on a G5 ppc

2011-10-14 Thread JohnV
Is there an elegant way to filter the incoming air in a ppc G5 tower? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Andrew Owen wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these > days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little > more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved

Re: Is Yahoo Messenger Beta 3 Safe to Use?

2011-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, billycarmacs wrote: > Are there any security risks using Yahoo Messenger Beta 3 on my > DIgital Audio dual 533 under OS X 10.5.8? > > Just wondering if expert hackers could get through when I'm using > Yahoo with webcam, and get at such things as Safari links and wha

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Yes please keep us informed of your progress. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guid

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Doug McNutt
At 15:50 -0700 10/14/11, Eric Hall wrote: >That sounds very interesting indeed. > > >From: Andrew Owen >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:48 AM >Subject: 10.3.9 hacking > >Hi folks, > >I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these >days.

Re: Air filter on a G5 ppc

2011-10-14 Thread Ralph Green
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 18:59 -0400, JohnV wrote: > Is there an elegant way to filter the incoming air in a ppc G5 tower? > Howdy, I picture something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fr%C3%A9d%C3% A9ric_Soulacroix_-_Elegance_Of_The_Epoque.jpg The lady is standing on a bellows that p

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Owen wrote: Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on t

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread dc
I'm up and running again. Thanks for all the great tips! I pulled out just about everything: RAM, PCI cards, video card, then put in the OEM video card and base RAM. While I was at it I put in a fresh PRAM battery. I found the SMC reset button just above the RAM trays, pressed it for 10 seconds. It

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 15-10-2011 2:31, dc ha scritto: > I found the SMC reset button just above the RAM trays, > pressed it for 10 seconds. It started up normally and seems to be > running well. I haven't started putting my upgrade components back in > yet but I'm hoping they are all OK, I think the reset but

non ECC RAM?

2011-10-14 Thread John Carmonne
Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a mem

Re: 10.3.9 hacking

2011-10-14 Thread Dan
At 7:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, Andrew Owen wrote: hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. Explain please "dropped in the graphics from Lion". Lion is an x86 build and your Mini is a G4. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; So

Re: Air filter on a G5 ppc

2011-10-14 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Short answer: No. Long answer: Build one yourself. Illirik Smirnov "He's a phreak on a leash" Proudly Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT databa

Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime

2011-10-14 Thread ah...clem
try starting it with the kybd unplugged. if that works, get another kybd. if not, try the semi-mystical solution of unplugging it from AC, removing PRAM battery, disconnecting power leads from PS to mobo, hit the internal reset button, and let it sit for 1-2 days in that state. going back to the

Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?

2011-10-14 Thread Bill Connelly
I have 10.5.8 on my Digital Audio Dual 533 ... got it there with CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/list