Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-08-07 Thread Gus
That is true. But in this thread, the CPU in question is a 500 MHZ OWC G4. Looking at the OWC Site it doesn't seem these were shipped with special heat sink, the installation instructions say to use you old one, (in both the beige, the BW (which have a smaller heat-sink) than the system here

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-08-06 Thread Gus
The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video and boots. If a CPU has been

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-08-06 Thread Clark Martin
On 8/6/10 1:48 PM, Gus wrote: The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-30 Thread Gus
Well I sprung for a mac keyboard. It is an ugly apple pro keyboard v 1.22 that feels like someone soaked i in bleach to get it clean. After pulling keys and putting them in the right locations I hooked it up and was able to boot the yikes board into open firmware with the original G4 400 MHZ

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-21 Thread Gus
See, this is the thing, a processor will run UNDER-CLOCKED better than it will OVER-CLOCKED. If I have a bootable system with a g4-450 mhz. Putting a 500 mhz processor in there without changing the jumper settings will only tell the 500 mhz processor to run at 450. Much like it tells the 400

Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Gus
System: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Ricardo Sevilla
From my own experience a Pram zap may be what you need however If you can swap in the Known working cpu and zap the ram that way then that may help you to find out whether or not you have a bad cpu and not a pc keyboard issue. On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Gus wrote: System: G4 Yikes

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread pdimage
On 20/7/10 08:19, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Ted Treen
pdimage wrote: On 20/7/10 08:19, Gusgusr...@comcast.net wrote: BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Dan
At 12:19 AM -0700 7/20/2010, Gus wrote: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Gus
On Jul 20, 4:11 am, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 20/7/10 08:19, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: BUT!!!  I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything.  Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Gus
On Jul 20, 9:02 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:19 AM -0700 7/20/2010, Gus wrote: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay.  Says it is a 500 mhz G4.  DId a

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Gus wrote: Anything else I should try before I tell this guy his cpu doesn't work. I want to be sure of this. Disconnect the power cord AND remove the PRAM battery, THEN press the CUDA. If you haven't changed the jumpers, it's likely that could be the

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Gus
okay.. unpluged everything. removed everything from the usb bus but the keyboard and mouse. changed the chip. changed the jumper. removed the battery. Let it sit for 30 mins. pressed the cuda button for five seconds. put the battery back in. Chime. No Video. Turned it off. Pulled the 500

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread pdimage
On 20/7/10 21:27, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: okay.. unpluged everything. removed everything from the usb bus but the keyboard and mouse. changed the chip. changed the jumper. removed the battery. Let it sit for 30 mins. pressed the cuda button for five seconds. put the battery

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Gus
I only get the chime, It doesn't size the system or get into OF. No boot process at all starts. Thanks for your reply. Gus. On Jul 20, 4:20 pm, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 20/7/10 21:27, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: okay..  unpluged everything.  removed everything from

Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?

2010-07-20 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 20, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Gus wrote: Chime. No Video. After the chime is there any sign that the HD is working like it's booting normally? Can you use keyboard commands to initiate Shutdown or Restart? (Control-Eject and then Return for shutdown; OR Command-Control-Eject for