Re: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
Yep, that's him. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "John Bowers" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:53:53 To: Subject: RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe] Dallas Thomas. John F

RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Bowers
Dallas Thomas. John From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:39 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Cra

RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Oliver Barry
Two good points, Helen. I remember renaming of several landmarks in Jacksonville after their namesakes were convicted. Friendship Park comes to mind. What was the guy's name? Dallas something? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 3706

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Oliver Barry
About those semi-pro teams. They barely make their way. Why is it the cities that have them fight to keep them? Because they generate money for the city through good will, recycling money earned, other sales like hotel rooms, etc. It's just not that big a leap to see UAA does the same thing. Y

Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot seat? [Brockway]

2010-06-17 Thread Randy Lyons
Funny thing is that I didn't realize f$u fans hate him so much. The guy in the condo next door (I'm on vacation in Myrtle Beach) is an f$u fan, and we were talking trash at the pool this afternoon. He said that they (f$u fans) will always remember how the Zooker robbed Bobby of his "moment" when

Re: [gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 79!

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
Keep 'em coming Darlene!! You're doing great. I just wish you were concentrating this effort on getting more money for the humanities dept! (Sorry, just joking, I couldn't help myself!) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Darlene Goodfellow" Date: Thu, 17

RE: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Ken Kirkley
I would counter that looking at this as a professors vs. statues argument is flawed. I can't imagine that the booster(s) that are paying for this wouldn't give the money for academic purposes if requested, rather they have been asked to donate for this purpose. Now why would we ask them to do thi

Re: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Helen Huntley
I agree with Steve. If the athletic program were a drain on the university, it would be different. However, if you are going to have an athletic program, it might as well be one that's successful financially as well as on the field. You spend money to make money. I do think it would be legitimate t

[gatortalk] Countdown to Kickoff - Day 79!

2010-06-17 Thread Darlene Goodfellow
Today's an open roster spot and a good place to take a break! See ya'll tomorrow... -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 Nati

Re: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Ford
ok! I'm thoroughlhy confused and my brain is over-heating! Darlene, how MUCH longer till kick off? :-) -- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Steve McKibben To: Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:47:40 PM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [gatortal

Re: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Ford
Ok, Zeb! Gosh! You have me questioning my own position on this. You raise some very good points concerning the UAA vs the university. Man, are you a lawyer or some thing? :-) -- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: John Vega To: Date:

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Steve McKibben
I recall selling out Florida Field in 1979 when we were 0-10-1. I have trouble believing that, but for the UAA, we would not have the same football revenue. I recall the stadium being substantially smaller in 1979, and seeing quite a few empty seats during the Zook years. Nike and other "suppl

[gatortalk] Fwd: Scout.com: New Commit for Florida

2010-06-17 Thread Gatorrrrrr
Woody (via iPhone) Begin forwarded message: From: hotl...@scout.com Date: June 17, 2010 3:38:30 PM EDT To: gatorrr...@gmail.com Subject: Scout.com: New Commit for Florida Reply-To: hotl...@scout.com Dear gatorrr...@gmail.com (gatorrr), There is a new addition to the Florida commit li

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: That is why it's called a donation. Giving more money to the university could be justified in any year, not just this year when things are bad. If the UAA were part of the University, it would be called a budget. But for the Universi

[gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 12:16 --- How warm is Richt's seat? [Andreu]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
Let's not get too hasty here. I think Richt is doing a fine job as coach! Can't we get him nominated for the 'Ray Goff, coach of the year' trophy or something? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Shane Ford Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:20:30 To: Subject: [g

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
That is why it's called a donation. Giving more money to the university could be justified in any year, not just this year when things are bad. Actually, the UAA gives more money than most other schools get out of their sports programs. Besides, who do you think funds softball, soccer and lacros

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
Isn't this a specious argument when the UAA makes a donation each year that is essentially its leftover money? This year's donation could be $550,000 more, but for this choice. It's almost like the UAA find ways to spend money to avoid donating it to the University. -Zeb On Jun 17, 2010,

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
Well, since you send the Sun articles each day, we'll let you off this time. But remember... I'm watching you! And, you're correct, the article clearly says it's being done thru private donations. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Shane Ford Date: Thu,

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
Sorry, I should have been clearer.    I started writing a response but realized what I was saying, censored myself - deleted it - and wrote THFGT    Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes abo

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Jerry Belloit
Zeb, This is my thought as well. Even though it may be argued that the money comes from private donations and would therefore not be available for salaries or scholarships, I believe that these people would still donate to a more pressing cause. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Steve McKibben
Since this is really about UF's athletic department, nothing posted so far makes this "Too Hot". Obviously the potential is there since the "p" word is at least implied. I'm pretty sure that I read an article where Foley and Machen ridiculed this accusation. As long as the discussion is kept to

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Jerry Belloit
While I agree that FSU would add little to the SEC, Miami would add a large, mostly Hispanic, TV market. With added TV, Florida might be able to recruit the Miami area a little better. I don't think it would help Miami near as much as the Big East did in their recruiting. jb From: gatorn.

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
I agree - but I think that Alabama was creating a statue - so we do too ...    Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statuesto honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]From: John Vega Date: Thu, June 17, 2010 10:58 amTo: Gatortalk@go

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
THFGT       Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THECHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation[Crabbe]From: John Vega Date: Thu, June 17, 2010 10:57 amTo: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com On Jun 17, 2010, at

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Ford
It is the only time Meyer has coached against them while at UF according to Wikipedia. SHANE From: "ken...@earthlink.net" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 11:01:04 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Ford
:-)  HAHA!  The nerve!  Really!?  I mean, he has no right to look out for the best interest of his employer and try to "keep down" your biggest rival and hated enemy!  Good grief!  What has this world come to?  :-) From: "oli...@bobparks.com" To: Gator Tal

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Ford
I don't want to get into politics here, but this is being provided through private donations.  If I give money for a statue that I would like to have built, wouldn't it seem that it's OK to do that even if people are being layed off?  It's not like money that would have been spent on the profess

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread Woody
Its not university funded tho. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:58 AM, John Vega wrote: > > On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Shane Ford wrote: > > The bronze statues of Steve Spurrier, Danny Wuerffel and *Tim > Tebow* > will be placed on the west side o

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread kenb23
Meyer has beaten scUM, in 2008. Only time we palyed them since he became HC, I think. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:00 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews]

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread Steve McKibben
I think when we had the chance to add them permanently, both schools quietly didn't want to, for different reasons; UF - We're on top, they have trouble putting butts (but not a-holes) in the seats - why should we give them a boost by putting them on our schedule? UM - We like to say that they

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
I'd like to play them every year, as we are better than UM year in and year out. However, our goofy we play a couple times every decade somehow always results in us playing them when they are good and we are not, giving a distorted result to the series. Spurrier or Meyer our coach? Better

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
I had no idea Jeremy Foley would do such a thing. Why, he should be hunted down and given a severe pay bonus for his actions! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:57:03 To: Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/1

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread kenb23
Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Mes

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Bowers
Maybe if a professor won a Heisman.. ;-) JB From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:58 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisma

Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot seat? [Brockway]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
Good lord, he turned into Bowden! -Zeb On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:04 AM, wrote: So zook becomes a figure head at head coach - but in charge of recruiting? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 Natio

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/17 06:01 --- UF statues to honor Heisman winners [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Shane Ford wrote: The bronze statues of Steve Spurrier, Danny Wuerffel and Tim Tebow will be placed on the west side of the stadium. The statues will cost about $550,000, which is being funded by private donations. That's a lot of money at a time when we are la

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 17:14 --- "THE CHALKBOARD" === UF athletic director jokes about FSU accusation [Crabbe]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Shane Ford wrote: The e-mail was apparently sent to state senators and is getting some attention online. It accuses UF Athletic Director Jeremy Foley of preventing Florida State from getting into the SEC. Dear Senator: It has come to my attention that there h

Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot seat? [Brockway]

2010-06-17 Thread oliver
I guess he'll go back to the NFL as an assistant of some sort. If... he's fired Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:04:37 To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]

2010-06-17 Thread John Vega
Your memory is correct, sir. The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game. -Zeb On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If the sche

RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 6/16 18:27 --- Utah receives invite to join the Pac-10 [Associated Press / Brock Vergakis]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
sad - isn't it?    Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 6/16 18:27 ---Utah receives invite to join the Pac-10 [Associated Press / BrockVergakis]From: Steve McKibben Date: Thu, June 17, 2010 9:11 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.

Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 6/16 18:27 --- Utah receives invite to join the Pac-10 [Associated Press / Brock Vergakis]

2010-06-17 Thread Steve McKibben
The PAC10 needs the money. Texas has held the Big 12 ransom to the point that their deal will ensure that they have plenty of cash, and no championship game to "trip them up" on their way to the BCS title game (not to mention not having to face a resurgent Nebraska team in conference any more).

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot seat? [Brockway]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
 So zook becomes a figure head at head coach - but in charge of recruiting?   Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: 6/16 15:35 --- Zooker on the hot seat?[Brockway]From: Shane Ford Date: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:38 amTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Zooke

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 6/16 18:27 --- Utah receives invite to join the Pac-10 [Associated Press / Brock Vergakis]

2010-06-17 Thread keith
 Funny how the PAC10 (now 12) wants 12 teams and a playoff   Whereas the Big12 (now 10) prefers 10 teams and no playoff   Original Message Subject: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: 6/16 18:27 --- Utah receives inviteto join the Pac-10 [Associated Press / Brock Vergakis]From: Shane Ford <