Am resending this to list with a few additions. May not have been received.
Elizabeth
Subj: Re: Fw: [gecko]Experts Note Please: Double 40 hr heat pack test in styro double boxed setup
Date: 11/19/03 10:58:03 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Elizabeth Freer
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Leann--
The inne
Whew! For a second there I thought they had "mad-klemmeri-disease". I love when they do it, and its usually later in the day. Today, one walked out on a brom leaf, looked up to where he wanted to jump to, backed up, took the leap, barely made it, scambled for a while, then sat up tall like he wa
Chad Mayer wrote:
BTW, do your klem's get the "crazies" sometimes? I mean, every once
in a while, mine will just feel the need to run around the viv, just like
a cat sometimes does!? They dont seem agitated in a negative way, just bursting
with energy! Its pretty
Good points, and thanks for the info on the halogens. To the eye, they seem "warmer" (yellower) than the CF. We in the pdf world have a constant issue with lighting our vivs. The amount of light required to keep the plants alive (surprisingly, moss requires a LOT of light) usually generates a
I've never liked the 40 hours myself, I stick to the Heat Source 60s. You
can put material between this pack and the gex if the box is full. The heat
is steadier and lasts longer than 40s with these.
Julie B.
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Hi--
I do use the white styrofoam beadboard for my prem
Beverly Erlebacher wrote:
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:06:51 -0500
Thanks for this and your earlier reply. By "soft" styrofoam do you
mean the kind that literally dissolves if you get it wet? For that
reason I've stayed totally away from those and use the "hard
Chad...
I didn't say you shouldn't have the running water... I just was not up
to it myself. PDF keepers generally have much better vivs from what
I've seen!!! If you can keep it clean and well aerated, go for it! I'm
looking forward to seeing pics of your setup.
You are right on with the hal
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> From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/11/19 Wed PM 01:40:57 EST
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> Subject: Re: [gecko]Buying shipping supplies in Canada
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> LLL is in California, at least the last time I checked! ;)
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> Julie Bergman
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Good thoughts, especially on the supplementation. I vary my supplementation routine, mostly based on my exeperience with frogs and chams, but Ill change that for the klemmeri. I want to take NO CHANCES with these guys. Ive really fallen for them.
Lighting. Read the Christensons book. LOVED
Hi--
I do use the white styrofoam beadboard for my premade shipping containers. Now I know
that these other peanuts are made from starch. Generally, always, I've used the
common styrofoam popcorn to cushion the deli cups within the premade box(es). I will
replace the newspaper with styro pop
I certainly was not chewing anyone out, I'm not much into cannibalism. :)
Education is key to anything, without education we can never cure ignorance. Without educating people, you will never be able to help those who WILL care about what their doing and are willing to learn. So even though there
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> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:06:51 -0500
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> Thanks for this and your earlier reply. By "soft" styrofoam do you
> mean the kind that literally dissolves if you get it wet? For that
> reason I've stayed totally away from those and use the "hard" kind that
> don't seem com
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Julie--
Thanks for this and your earlier reply. By "soft" styrofoam do you mean the kind that literally dissolves if you get it wet?
I am not sure, I have not tried that. I assume my boxes are waterproof anyway!
This "dissolving" has never been a problem. Again
Julie--
Thanks for this and your earlier reply. By "soft" styrofoam do you mean the kind that
literally dissolves if you get it wet? For that reason I've stayed totally away from
those and use the "hard" kind that don't seem compromised should they get wet.
(I know we hope our packages stay
Deli cups can be bought in bulk at some grocery wholesale/cash and
carry stores.
Grocery stores may even sell them to you if they're in a good mood.
Neil
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I've been searching for a vendor of shipping materials
(particularly deli cups) in Canada, preferably online, but I
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Hi Folks---
What do you think here? Until I received this email today I've never thought
having the heat pack in direct contact with my styrofoam popcorn packing
was contraindicated. Is it wise to place a heat pack inside a small paper
bag for that reason?
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I've been searching for a vendor of shipping materials (particularly deli cups) in Canada, preferably online, but I've had no luck. I've tried a few restaurant supply places but it isn't going well. I don't think I know where to look. Can someone give me some direction? LL
Hi Chad...
Welcome to the wonderful world of klemmeri!!!
I'm assuming, based on the size of food items you are providing, that
the gex are juvies? Keep in mind that these guys (as with most
Phelsuma) will eat anything the size of their head! Don't be afraid to
move them up to larger prey once
I've been searching for a vendor of shipping materials (particularly deli cups) in
Canada, preferably online, but I've had no luck. I've tried a few restaurant supply
places but it isn't going well. I don't think I know where to look. Can someone give
me some direction? LLL Reptile is the only p
The only other factor not considered is air flow
and movement. If the container had no air holes it would reduce the heat
produced by the pacs. Movement of the box also allows the heat pacs to
receive more air overall.
Your next test step would be to mail your box, with
the temperatur
One thing I haven't seen addressed is pinkies.
Of my trio, one of the females just loves pinkies, the other two won't touch
them. And, I've been taking a lot of notes this year: her babies are
remarkably bigger, and better eaters, than the other female's.
I'm lucky in the respect that all three j
If you are going to give numerous statistics,
please site where you found them. Unfounded stats are
meaningless.
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Again, I expected to be chewed out for posting the last email. I use to also be heavily in herpetoculture until I moved into herpetology and saw the direct effects of the pet trade on fauna. I would like to add to this debate with other information.
1. Yes, I agree that educate is very important
I don't
understand how owning herps hinders conservation. For reason's Julie has
already stated, keeping and educating people about animals, actually lets
people know what creatures are out there. I can not think of one species
of animal that has been threatened by over collection for the
I would
call the department of animal control and regulations. If they get
complaints they will investigate.
Catriona
At 07:01 PM 11/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi all,
Just had a quick question. Is there a website out there, that you can go
to and complain about pet shops that poorly treat
Males are often slimmer than females.
Neil
Thanks for all the advice and tips. It's just been eating at me
that my male has always been substantially slimmer than my female.
They're both active and apparently healthy, but he's so much smaller
that I've always worried about his health. Maybe h
Hi all!
Well, Im not sure if I already did this, but Im awake at my computer late tonight, and am really enjoying the conversations, so Ill jump right in!
My name is Chad Mayer, I currently live in Tempe, AZ. I keep a number of dart frogs, laticauda, leos and chameleons, but Ive recently been
Hi Folks---
What do you think here? Until I received this email today I've never thought having the heat pack in direct contact with my styrofoam popcorn packing was contraindicated. Is it wise to place a heat pack inside a small paper bag for that reason?
I don't like to have heat in conctact
In a message dated 11/18/03 5:34:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, Elizabeth Freer writes:
These result seem lower than would be expected.
My double 40 hr heat pack test results yesterday were puzzling. That is 2 40 hr heat packs inside the smallest styro box nestled inside a much larger styrofoam b
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