Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:31:51AM -0800, David Griffith wrote: I modify src/pcb-menu.res and look for these two lines: { 25 mil checked=gridsize,2500 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,2500)} {100 mil checked=gridsize,1 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,1)} Then I insert the

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
... it doesn't help that guile-gtk basically died. gwave either has to do a rewrite and dump guile-gtk or it has to use guile-gnome (or whatever it is called) which adds another whole large pile of dependencies. Otherwise it is stuck with guile-gtk that uses gtk1. I have guile-gtk-2.0

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, vidtech wrote: I have been unable to find a more recent version of the gEDA suite for Debian Etch then the present(20060123-1)candidate. Any suggestions as to were to find a more recent deb package? There is not much room for experimenting as the present Etch

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:21:32PM -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems. [chop] Just remember, KJWaves works out of the box Yawn. Wake me when KJWaves works on a stock Debian system, without resorting to a non-free repository. If you get tired of waiting for IcedTea, you

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: Nothing specific, get comfortable with simulation.  I came from using Mentor products, GUI driven, quite some time ago.  I started using LTSpice because it seemed familiar.  Then decided to resist the GUI urge and get comfortable with ngspice

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.    This is, once again, non-issues for all but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... It doesn't matter whether I am or not. If kjwaves depends on non-free software some distributions

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread KURT PETERS
There are no dependency problems.This is, once again, non-issues for all but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... As for GnuCap support... I have seen no request for GnuCap support on the sourceforge page. Just remember, KJWaves works out of the box and certainly

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, KURT PETERS wrote: Really sad to think you just crashed your OS trying to install gwave, when you could have just been using KJWaves... Does it work with gnucap yet? Did you fix the dependency on a particular version of Java?

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread KURT PETERS
Really sad to think you just crashed your OS trying to install gwave, when you could have just been using KJWaves... Kurt ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Dan McMahill
KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.This is, once again, non-issues for all I think that is a bold statement. but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... As for GnuCap support... I have seen no request for GnuCap support on the sourceforge page.

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-11-30 Thread Steven Michalske
I use Mac OS X Sorry, but it looks like the guys gave you some pointers. Steve On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:45 AM, vidtech wrote: Hi Steven, I have been unable to find a more recent version of the gEDA suite for Debian Etch then the present(20060123-1)candidate. Any suggestions as to were to

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
reply in pieces... On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: I don't know if I went with the wrong distribution when selecting Fedora.  A freind suggested it because they were rumored to have good support.  In hind sight I probably should have asked everyone here, the gEDA gurus, what

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Butts
Thanks for all the input, however, I have a BSOD! I thought I was being safe by posting those questions prior to screwing with, and screwing up, my system but somehow screwing up is the end result. I started up in linux, fedora 7, to have at it again. After some script flashing past me during

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:42:53AM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: The rectangle is 10.25 x 7.5. The semicircles do not line up with the box; they're 10in apart in Y and 7.5in apart in X. Measure between the semicircles. The box is for checking your printer for linearity, not for calibration.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Ben Jackson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:10:25AM +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote: My pcb version takes /usr/local/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res. I changed the line and 50mil is available. Great! What is the difference for pcb-menu and gpcb-menu? Lesstif HID vs GTK hid. I think the file formats

Re: gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in eval

2007-11-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Traylor Roger wrote: Dan, As you requested.. nbuster_3.sch:footprint=TSSOP-65P-640L1-14N This is the culprit As you can see, many of the footprints have a - but these are from John Luciani's footprint library. These have not caused any problems up to this point. With older

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-11-30 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi vidtech, On Donnerstag, 29. November 2007, vidtech wrote: tragesym version 0.0.9 Version 0.0.9 does not support tab separated options. But I'm still curious which version of tragesym you're using. The script works fine in 2ec30283966c7610712dae9c57ab92cc36 when I've created that version

Re: gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in eval

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
As you can see, many of the footprints have a - but these are from John Luciani's footprint library. These have not caused any problems up to this point. John disables m4 completely in his setup, so he won't have that problem. ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:24 -0500, Robert Butts wrote: I was able to get to a console and log in but couldn't find this log file. What command can I use that will give me a list of commands available? ls (short for list) Examples from my box, (yours might be a little different, but the it

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 19:21 -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: Just remember, KJWaves works out of the box and certainly won't cause anyone to crash their OS. :-) Nor will gwave, its just difficult to build. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of

gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in eval

2007-11-30 Thread Traylor Roger
Dan, As you requested.. nbuster_1.sch:footprint=0805 nbuster_1.sch:footprint=cap-elec-Panasonic-FK--D4.00-H5.80-mm nbuster_1.sch:footprint=elect_mic_horn_EM6022P-42BC10.fp nbuster_1.sch:footprint=SOT-23_Transistor.fp nbuster_1.sch:footprint=tssop-8.fp nbuster_2.sch:footprint=0805

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Hi, I've gived a look to the code in the cvs, and in src/hid/gtk/gtkhid-main.c I've found: Doh! I forgot this aspect isn't hid-independent. Fixed. Why the calibration page say the calibration box is 10.25 x 7.75 while in the code you check for 10.00 x 7.50 ? And which should be the exact

Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
I added 50 mil grid settings to the two menu files. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-1.0.3 released!

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 08:58 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: Peter -- I found some low-hanging fruit.. [..] My time is limited, but eventually I can work this up into a useful patch. Great! Thank you for your comments. Once you get a patch put together, please forward it to me

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
What about printing some instructions in the middle of the page? We do. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in

2007-11-30 Thread Traylor Roger
Dan, entering: echo eval(-2/2) | m4 returns: -1 I'll keep looking. Gonna whip this yet. Thanks again, Roger another possibility is that you have a buggy version of m4. Try this: echo eval(-2/2) | m4 It will be fairly obvious if you have the broken one. -Dan

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-1.0.3 released!

2007-11-30 Thread Stuart Brorson
Peter -- I found some low-hanging fruit.. [..] My time is limited, but eventually I can work this up into a useful patch. Great! Thank you for your comments. Once you get a patch put together, please forward it to me and stick it on the SF patch tracker, and I will apply it post haste!

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-1.0.3 released!

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 14:57 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 09:44 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: Any demand to switch coming from my direction would only really come if I had time to help work on the why is cairo slower issue, and even that could be done via tracking CVS.

Re: gEDA-user: what's the pcb command for 45 degree rotate?

2007-11-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:09:00 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: Cut to buffer :FreeRotateBuffer(45) Paste Works for me -- kind of. Text is not rotated. Squared vias and pins keep their orientation. Pads derived from lines with zero length also don't rotate. I guess, these are known weaknesses.

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:45 +0100, vidtech wrote: Hi Steven, I have been unable to find a more recent version of the gEDA suite for Debian Etch then the present(20060123-1)candidate. Any suggestions as to were to find a more recent deb package? There is not much room for experimenting as

Re: gEDA-user: Export gerber crash

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 22:30 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/PCB_sources$ dpkg-source -x pcb_20070912-1CUED2.dsc gpg: Signature made Wed 21 Nov 2007 06:46:16 PM EST using RSA key ID 3BC3653D gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found dpkg-source: error: file

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-11-30 Thread vidtech
Hi Steven, I have been unable to find a more recent version of the gEDA suite for Debian Etch then the present(20060123-1)candidate. Any suggestions as to were to find a more recent deb package? There is not much room for experimenting as the present Etch distri is running on a productive system.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread Anselmo
Hi, I've gived a look to the code in the cvs, and in src/hid/gtk/gtkhid-main.c i've found: static HID_Attribute printer_calibrate_attrs[] = { {Enter Values here:, , HID_Label, 0, 0, {0, 0, 0}, 0, 0}, {x-calibration, X scale for calibrating your printer, HID_Real, 0.5, 2, {0, 0, 1.00},

Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread David Griffith
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Ben Jackson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 08:50:31AM +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote: David Griffith schrieb: I just upgraded my installation of PCB from 20070208 to pcb_20070912 and noticed that View-Grid_size no longer has an option to set the gridsize to 50 mils.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:10:25AM +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote: My pcb version takes /usr/local/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res. I changed the line and 50mil is available. Great! What is the difference for pcb-menu and gpcb-menu? Lesstif HID vs GTK hid. I think the file formats are the same, it's

Re: gEDA-user: PCB no longer has a 50 mil grid size?

2007-11-30 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Ben Jackson schrieb: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:31:51AM -0800, David Griffith wrote: I modify src/pcb-menu.res and look for these two lines: { 25 mil checked=gridsize,2500 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,2500)} {100 mil checked=gridsize,1 SetUnits(mil) SetValue(Grid,1)}

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:21:32PM -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.This is, once again, non-issues for all but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... I'm sure it has nothing to do with Java applications being even more of a pain to

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Butts
I was able to get to a console and log in but couldn't find this log file. What command can I use that will give me a list of commands available? On Nov 30, 2007 3:19 PM, al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reply in pieces... On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: I don't know if I

gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in eval

2007-11-30 Thread Traylor Roger
Dan, nbuster_3.sch:footprint=TSSOP-65P-640L1-14N This is the culprit Do you still feel that this is the bug considering DJ's comment? I believe I was able to make another component that used the 0805 footprint and saw the same error in gsch2pcb output. At any rate, I will try it

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 14:40 -0500, Robert Butts wrote: Thanks for all the input, however, I have a BSOD! I thought I was being safe by posting those questions prior to screwing with, and screwing up, my system but somehow screwing up is the end result. I started up in linux, fedora 7, to

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
I guess you're on to me now! I printed PCB transfers without calibrating my printer! :-) I used to do that, but did a full calibration when I started making my own paste stencils for fab-made boards. The holes didn't line up otherwise. (you think we could get kickbacks from fab houses if

Re: gEDA-user: Other missing menu options

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Now I've noticed another missing option: Enable view solder side. I use this to add text to the solder side. Do you mean the Shift-Ctrl-Tab function? GTK: That's under View - More Zooms and View Changes - Swap Sides Lesstif: View - Swap Sides ___

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 22:55 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: al davis wrote: On Thursday 29 November 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: Yeah, I know that several people will now chime in and say It's easy! I think he's using Fedora ... Isn't there a package available? How about: yum

gEDA-user: Other missing menu options

2007-11-30 Thread David Griffith
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Ben Jackson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:10:25AM +0100, Klaus Rudolph wrote: My pcb version takes /usr/local/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res. I changed the line and 50mil is available. Great! What is the difference for pcb-menu and gpcb-menu? Lesstif HID vs GTK hid.

Re: gEDA-user: what's the pcb command for 45 degree rotate?

2007-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
Works for me -- kind of. Text is not rotated. Squared vias and pins keep their orientation. Pads derived from lines with zero length also don't rotate. I guess, these are known weaknesses. Yup. There's a hook in the HID to tell the pad drawing routines what angle to use, but I haven't done

Re: gEDA-user: pcb printer calibration

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:47:54PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: What about printing some instructions in the middle of the page? We do. I guess you're on to me now! I printed PCB transfers without calibrating my printer! :-) (you think we could get kickbacks from fab houses if we added a

Re: gEDA-user: vexing problem: m4:stdin:7: bad expression in eval

2007-11-30 Thread John Luciani
On Nov 30, 2007 3:55 PM, Traylor Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, nbuster_3.sch:footprint=TSSOP-65P-640L1-14N This is the culprit Do you still feel that this is the bug considering DJ's comment? I believe I was able to make another component that used the 0805 footprint and