Re: gEDA-user: gtkwave

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Chapman
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 01:05 +, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 20:25 -0400, Ian Chapman wrote: > > I was learning ghdl and going through an exercise and I generated the > > adder.vhd file per instructiions. When I run gtkwave adder.vhd I get a > > fast flash of what may be an int

Re: gEDA-user: gtkwave

2008-03-11 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 20:25 -0400, Ian Chapman wrote: > I was learning ghdl and going through an exercise and I generated the > adder.vhd file per instructiions. When I run gtkwave adder.vhd I get a > fast flash of what may be an interesting screen and that's it. Did I > miss something when I ins

gEDA-user: gtkwave

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Chapman
I was learning ghdl and going through an exercise and I generated the adder.vhd file per instructiions. When I run gtkwave adder.vhd I get a fast flash of what may be an interesting screen and that's it. Did I miss something when I installed gEDA tarball? Regards Ian. In the terminal I get:- G

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread DJ Delorie
> Dave the established practice with pcb is to make it difficult for > friends to solder. If you don't believe me I still have an unattempted > DJ's torture^h^h^h^h^h^h^h challenge kits;) I've been thinking of making some smaller ones, maybe with CSPs this time... mwahahaha!! _

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Steve Meier
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 11:14 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > So then I decided to do a through-hole board that would be easy for some > friends to solder. Dave the established practice with pcb is to make it difficult for friends to solder. If you don't believe me I still have an unattempted DJ's t

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Dave N6NZ
Ben Jackson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:39:22AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: >> Ben Jackson wrote: >>> You've always had to draw lines to pads to connect to any >>> surface polygons. >> Not being able to create non-round pins that support thermals is a >> fundamental brokenness. Let's fix it

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:39:22AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > > Ben Jackson wrote: > > You've always had to draw lines to pads to connect to any > > surface polygons. > > Not being able to create non-round pins that support thermals is a > fundamental brokenness. Let's fix it. Does that apply t

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Dave N6NZ
Ben Jackson wrote: > You've always had to draw lines to pads to connect to any > surface polygons. Not being able to create non-round pins that support thermals is a fundamental brokenness. Let's fix it. -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread joeft
Ben Jackson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 08:39:31AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: >> Steve Meier wrote: >>> I am also interested in why you would want a thermal for connecting a >>> via onto a pad in which the via is sitting. >> ?? OK, I'm still under-caffeinated, but I don't parse your question. >>

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 08:39:31AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > Steve Meier wrote: > > I am also interested in why you would want a thermal for connecting a > > via onto a pad in which the via is sitting. > > ?? OK, I'm still under-caffeinated, but I don't parse your question. > I'm guessing you mis

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Dave N6NZ
Steve Meier wrote: > I am also interested in why you would want a thermal for connecting a > via onto a pad in which the via is sitting. ?? OK, I'm still under-caffeinated, but I don't parse your question. I'm guessing you missed my initial rant? What I was trying to do is create an oblong pi

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Steve Meier
I am also interested in why you would want a thermal for connecting a via onto a pad in which the via is sitting. I have used vias in pads twice now. 1) High density bga with a minimal number of layers. number of layers is no longer an issue with pcb. 2) Conducting heat away from a component and

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Steve Meier
I haven't tried this but a work around might be to use a polygon rather then a pad. If you need to solder to the polygon then make a small pad not connected to the via and open the soldermask clearence but not the polygon clearance. Steve M joe tarantino wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:16

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] overlapping pin/pad -- won't form thermal

2008-03-11 Thread Dave N6NZ
joe tarantino wrote: > - Expanding the grammar to support inner layer pad <> outer layer pad > would be great. (Would one geometry definition apply to all inner layers?) > - Also consider whatever would allow pins (and vias) with no connection > to some layers (maybe supporting blind and buried