Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchial refdes vs. board assembler

2008-07-17 Thread Steve Meier
This process as written below should be captured into the geda wiki. I do think the cost of the components is a hudge cost driver for a pcb assembly! However, the shop I primarily use for complex hierarchical boards with bga's of over 1000 pins has no problem with the hierarchical refdes. They ca

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchial refdes vs. board assembler

2008-07-17 Thread Bob Paddock
> They won't get my business again, as this crap is costing me a great > deal of time - I wrote the message below for a different list last year, when someone wanted to know why getting a board built by a CM cost so much more than the parts cost when bought from DigiKey. It will give you lots to

gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-17 Thread Traylor Roger
Gang, I've now finished my third board with gschem/gaf + PCB. I post these pictures as an encouragement to others. I was was discouraged at times learning the tools but with the help and support available I finally pushed out some good stuff. I've posted pictures of two of them for y

Re: gEDA-user: mikor csodák múzeuma

2008-07-17 Thread Levente Kovacs
Ooops... wrong destination. Sorry... On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:11:25 +0200 Levente Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Szia Zsuzsi, > > > Itt találhatsz információkat a mikro-csodák múzeumáról, amiről még > vasárnap meséltem. Ha van kedved, elmehetnénk megnézni, érdemes. > > http://www.korona-et

gEDA-user: mikor csodák múzeuma

2008-07-17 Thread Levente Kovacs
Szia Zsuzsi, Itt találhatsz információkat a mikro-csodák múzeumáról, amiről még vasárnap meséltem. Ha van kedved, elmehetnénk megnézni, érdemes. http://www.korona-etterem.hu/mikro/ Van kedved? Jólegyél! Levente -- Levente Kovacs http://logonex.eu ___

Re: gEDA-user: Footprint creation manual

2008-07-17 Thread phil
> It's been a while since I've been on gEDA. I can't find any documentation > on creating footprints for PCB. You gotta see the PCB footprint creation document ... in pdf: http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20070818.pdf and odf: http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20070818.odf Phi

Re: gEDA-user: Mechanical footprints on pcb

2008-07-17 Thread phil
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Gary L. Roach > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> How do I include heat sinks into the pcb layout. I have a schematic (in >> gschem) that needs heat sinks on 2 components. One a TO220 and one a GBJ >> case. I am developing the footprint for the GBJ cas

Re: gEDA-user: ideeas for gschem and pcb

2008-07-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Teodor, On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0300, Robas, Teodor wrote: > > Bert Timmerman wrote: > > Hi Kai-Martin, Teodor and all, > > > > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 23:38 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:14:05 +0300, Robas, Teodor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchial refdes vs. board assembler

2008-07-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:49 -0700, Steve Meier wrote: > I have found they need a little education and then seem fine with it. > > There is no shortage of assembly shops and so they tend to be willing to > work with their customers. These guys have told me to... re-number the schematic list to sh

Re: gEDA-user: Mechanical footprints on pcb

2008-07-17 Thread John Luciani
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Gary L. Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How do I include heat sinks into the pcb layout. I have a schematic (in > gschem) that needs heat sinks on 2 components. One a TO220 and one a GBJ > case. I am developing the footprint for the GBJ case but the pr

gEDA-user: Mechanical footprints on pcb

2008-07-17 Thread Gary L. Roach
Hi, How do I include heat sinks into the pcb layout. I have a schematic (in gschem) that needs heat sinks on 2 components. One a TO220 and one a GBJ case. I am developing the footprint for the GBJ case but the process is complicated by the fact that the component can either be mounted vertica

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchial refdes vs. board assembler

2008-07-17 Thread Steve Meier
This might be one of the advantages for living in silicon valley. Competition probably drives the non-capable out. Bob Paddock wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Also, if you layed out a section and then duplicated it to make exact >> copies t

Re: gEDA-user: ideeas for gschem and pcb

2008-07-17 Thread Robas, Teodor
Bert Timmerman wrote: Hi Kai-Martin, Teodor and all, On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 23:38 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:14:05 +0300, Robas, Teodor wrote: The following is a list of improvements I would like too see/have/maybe implement. 1. Footprint alternatives.

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchial refdes vs. board assembler

2008-07-17 Thread Bob Paddock
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, if you layed out a section and then duplicated it to make exact > copies their task should be easier not harder. I've been on the other end of this at a CM. Make sure your designators are unique through out a board or