Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 28

2009-01-11 Thread eas lab
Peter Clifton wrote: Is there any particular reason you're using the gEDA binary suite, rather than fetching gEDA from your distro's package system? I don't think ito 'your distro, your psychologist, your travel agent'. When I move to another distro, I expect to be able to just continue. I

gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- Finally, I only mentioned the ExpressPCB software to say that I had managed to get a workaround that took the time pressure off myself (trying to get things done during my summer holiday). I checked up with the local PCB fabrication place and they want the gerber files which ExpressPCB

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 28

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 13:31 +0300, eas lab wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: Is there any particular reason you're using the gEDA binary suite, rather than fetching gEDA from your distro's package system? I don't think ito 'your distro, your psychologist, your travel agent'. When I move to

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:14 +1100, Susan Mackay wrote: (pcb:32709): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_model_foreach: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed Is this something that I'm doing wrong? Is this a known bug and, if so, what is the workaround? I just checked in a fix for this

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:00 AM, DJ Delorie [1...@delorie.com wrote: My wife and I were discussing driveway monitors for the house. GMR based Traffic Sensor Summery, page 7 8: [2]http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/literature/9397/75008644.pdf Detailed design, page 33:

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread John Griessen
Dave N6NZ wrote: DJ is um. unique? yes, that's the word... :) 6/6 and 4 layers at home is unusually aggressive. For my part, it's just not worth the hassle to keep the soup around and spend the time doing that... too many other things I'd rather do. -dave I like to keep

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread DJ Delorie
I like to keep etchant around -- I use CuCl2 + 2HCl -- H2CuCl4 This is what I use. Once converted to CuCl2, it's shelf stable and there's no waste. The HCl to use is 35% (swimming pool stores), Also, hardware stores sell it in the paint isle - it's a primer for painting cement. Might be

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: the H2O2 is 35 % (hydroponics supply store). Most of us use the 3% you can buy in a drug store. 1 part 37% HCl to 2 parts 3% H2O2. If you use 35% H2O2 you can dilute it. There's no need to dilute the 35% H2O2 -- I pour with gloves and goggles on though...and only add

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 11:11 +1100, Susan Mackay wrote: especially if other amateur radio people are interested in what I've created and I can order multiple boards. Ok, I'll bite... now you've got me curious about what you're working on... ;-) 73 - Bdale, KB0G

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 28

2009-01-11 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] It is an x86 Linux binary release. Unfortunately the release notes don't appear to be with it on the sourceforge site. Check again now. -Ales ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Bill Gatliff
Stuart Brorson wrote: Be very careful with the fab houses which offer you free design software -- there's usually a catch of some sort. Ditto. My very first board spin was through Express PCB, they made the process pretty painless--- and I went their route for the first time because I didn't

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip nice e-mail] Call me a control freak if you like, but gEDA seems ok with that. :) This is an interesting point that should be reiterated. The whole point of gEDA is flexibility-- I hate it how some tools force you to work in and only in their narrow world. We (as developers)

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Bill Gatliff
Ales Hvezda wrote: [snip nice e-mail] Call me a control freak if you like, but gEDA seems ok with that. :) This is an interesting point that should be reiterated. The whole point of gEDA is flexibility-- I hate it how some tools force you to work in and only in their

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Dan McMahill
Ales Hvezda wrote: [snip nice e-mail] Call me a control freak if you like, but gEDA seems ok with that. :) This is an interesting point that should be reiterated. The whole point of gEDA is flexibility-- I hate it how some tools force you to work in and only in their narrow world.

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Bob Paddock
I'm currently looking for some non-EDA related software for something and high up on my priority list is that I have the ability to dump out my data (perhaps with some programming or scripting effort on my part) into a format that I can get into a different tool.

Re: gEDA-user: ExpressPCB is evil.... was: Re: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Dan McMahill
Bob Paddock wrote: I'm currently looking for some non-EDA related software for something and high up on my priority list is that I have the ability to dump out my data (perhaps with some programming or scripting effort on my part) into a format that I can get into a

gEDA-user: Who is evil?

2009-01-11 Thread Steve Meier
I would caution. That labeling of a company as evil just because they are offering use of proprietary tools, will probably turn off a lot of companies that you would like to sponsor geda. Show the corporate world that geda is more flexible, a strong supportive user base, support for simulation

Re: gEDA-user: Who is evil?

2009-01-11 Thread DJ Delorie
I would caution. +1 That labeling of a company as evil just because they are offering use of proprietary tools, will probably turn off a lot of companies that you would like to sponsor geda. Advanced Circuits (4pcb.com) offers such software, but they've been great supporters of PCB and we

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Susan Mackay
OK, this is getting WAY off topic, but: Ok, I'll bite... now you've got me curious about what you're working on... ;-) 73 - Bdale, KB0G It's a little bit of everything really. It started off with me wanting to play with one of the PIC processors (18F4550) to do something useful but

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread DJ Delorie
I think I might have got a bit carried away, but I'm having fun. You can describe half the stuff in my house that way :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Susan Mackay
OK, this is getting WAY off topic, but: Ok, I'll bite... now you've got me curious about what you're working on... ;-) 73 - Bdale, KB0G It's a little bit of everything really. It started off with me wanting to play with one of the PIC processors (18F4550) to do something useful but

Re: gEDA-user: New user to PCB - what does this error mean?

2009-01-11 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jan 12, 2009, at 2:17 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: I think I might have got a bit carried away, but I'm having fun. You can describe half the stuff in my house that way :-) I'm right there with ya, you geek. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL