Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread Michael Sokolov
John Doty wrote: > but "pcb" is apparently almost completely = > dependent on gnetlist. No, it isn't. PCB defines its netlist input format; the schematic capture folks like gEDA then adapt to it, in gEDA's case by way of a gnetlist back-end. My OSDCU board through which the characters of this

Re: gEDA-user: gschem : Move popupmenu to GtkUIManager

2010-08-08 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:56:05 +0200 kai-martin knaak wrote: > The patch applied without error to the my local copy of geda source > from gpleda.org. It compiled straight through, too. But I can't seem > to see check-boxes in the menus. Do I have to modify the menu in > system-gschemrc for this to

Re: gEDA-user: gschem : Move popupmenu to GtkUIManager

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
Camille Delbegue wrote: > I write a patch to migrate the pop-up-menu from GtkItemFactory (witch is > deprecated since Gtk 2.4) to GtkUIManager. > > Why don't use GtkUIManager and GtkAction to manage the menubar toolbar and > accelerator. This permit to use CheckMenuItem (ex : to active rubber-ban

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:02:28AM +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > I am going with "View". Short and descriptive, and not used for > > anything else that I'm aware of. > > Err, I use the word "view" a lot in connection with pcb: > "bottom view", "top view", "flipped

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:47 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > John Doty wrote: > >>> Unfortunately we >>> need gnetlist with guile to transfer information. >> >> Gnetlist is the *key* utility in the flow. > > It is just the glue between major components. No need to glorify this role. On the contrary

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 8, 2010, at 4:51 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > No it is not. Even simple things like footprint names have a pretty rigid > syntax to adhere to. The workflow breaks in cryptic ways if they are not > obeyed. This is a pure "pcb" limitation, not a gEDA limitation in general. John Doty

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
John Doty wrote: >> Unfortunately, it is just that -- a pin remapping facility. Slotting in >> other EDA packages allows for much more: Different symbols that belong to >> the same entity. > > We have no need for that. ^^ Who is this "we"? > It "just works" without any special facility. It

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

2010-08-08 Thread Rick Collins
At 12:45 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote: On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 12:12 -0400, Rick Collins wrote: > > So this is a bug specific to the Windows version? How to report that? > > Rick > > All fine for gerbv 2.4 shipped with Gentoo-Linux for AMD64. It would be fine if you can test with multiple Windows box

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:55 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > John Doty wrote: > >> In gEDA, we have a facility for designating "slots" in components. >> However, as DJ has pointed out, it is actually a general pin remapping >> facility, and can be productively used as such. > > Unfortunately, it is j

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > I am going with "View". Short and descriptive, and not used for > anything else that I'm aware of. Err, I use the word "view" a lot in connection with pcb: "bottom view", "top view", "flipped view" ... You did not comment on my suggestion "set"... ---<)kaimartin(>--- -

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
John Doty wrote: > In gEDA, we have a facility for designating "slots" in components. > However, as DJ has pointed out, it is actually a general pin remapping > facility, and can be productively used as such. Unfortunately, it is just that -- a pin remapping facility. Slotting in other EDA pack

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
John Doty wrote: >> Unfortunately we >> need gnetlist with guile to transfer information. > > Gnetlist is the *key* utility in the flow. It is just the glue between major components. No need to glorify this role. > That's what makes it possible > for gEDA to support abstract circuit analysis,

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Griessen
Steven Michalske wrote: On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John Griessen wrote: settings like "color all trace segments of net PWR1 from the gschem schematic blue-green whatever physical layer they are on. That would not be a popular plugin, but could be helpful in some work flow. It would be if it

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 05:43:26PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 06:52:37AM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > > Yes, absolutely! But I cannot think of a good name :) "logical group" > > is too long and ambiguous. Right now I am using "Group", but that's > > even less us

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John Griessen wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > >>> A way to handle schematic driven work styles like Stefan seems to want is >>> to make a PCB plugin to color traces differently, or just temporarily, >>> as an aid to using the correct DRC rules as you draw, or a

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

2010-08-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 12:12 -0400, Rick Collins wrote: > > So this is a bug specific to the Windows version? How to report that? > > Rick > > All fine for gerbv 2.4 shipped with Gentoo-Linux for AMD64. It would be fine if you can test with multiple Windows boxes, maybe it is related to a s

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

2010-08-08 Thread Rick Collins
At 12:00 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote: Message: 6 Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:46:06 +0200 From: kai-martin knaak Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv Problem Displaying Rounded Rectangles To: geda-u...@seul.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Rick Collins wrote: > I downloaded rev 2.4.

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 11:33 -0600, John Doty wrote: > >> >> Classification is opposed to modular, orthogonal design. Don't classify, >> describe. > > And no, I do not really think so. > > Classification is fine, it is a very powerful inven

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv Problem Displaying Rounded Rectangles

2010-08-08 Thread kai-martin knaak
Rick Collins wrote: > I downloaded rev 2.4.0 for Windows and viewed my Gerber files. I see > that rounded rectangles done as a macro don't seem to display > properly. I am creating the Gerber files with FreePCB and they > display ok in GC-Preview. Here is a link to an image of the Gerbv > displ

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Unfortunately we > need gnetlist with guile to transfer information. Gnetlist is the *key* utility in the flow. That's what makes it possible for gEDA to support abstract circuit analysis, simulation, VLSI design, and of course, printed cir

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Griessen
Andrew Poelstra wrote: A way to handle schematic driven work styles like Stefan seems to want is to make a PCB plugin to color traces differently, or just temporarily, as an aid to using the correct DRC rules as you draw, or autoroute. Rather than using a plugin system, I think we should allo

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-08 Thread John Doty
On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:00 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: > Stefan Salewski wrote: > >> A tractor is a fine versatile device, connected with a hanger we have a >> powerful tool for carrying load. Really modular, with a well defined >> interface. But many people prefer cars for the transport of people,

gEDA-user: Gerbv Problem Displaying Rounded Rectangles

2010-08-08 Thread Rick Collins
I downloaded rev 2.4.0 for Windows and viewed my Gerber files. I see that rounded rectangles done as a macro don't seem to display properly. I am creating the Gerber files with FreePCB and they display ok in GC-Preview. Here is a link to an image of the Gerbv display. http://arius.com/temp/