Re: gEDA-user: Power users us normal users, a conflict?

2011-04-08 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Rubén Gómez Antolí l...@mucharuina.com writes: Hi again: El 08/04/11 01:30, Peter Clifton escribió: On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 16:00 -0600, John Doty wrote: On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Rubén Gómez Antolí wrote: You are right but, what about the users? I *am* a user. I'm too. Both of you

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote: rickman gnuarm.g...@arius.com writes: I have to say I am philosophically opposed to any feature that allows a design to pass DRC when the layout differs from the schematic. Just to get the

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread rickman
On 4/7/2011 1:13 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: rickmangnuarm.g...@arius.com writes: I have to say I am philosophically opposed to any feature that allows a design to pass DRC when the layout differs from the schematic. Just to get the terminology right: DRC has no business to care about the

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Russell Dill
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:39 AM, rickman gnuarm.g...@arius.com wrote: On 4/7/2011 1:13 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: rickmangnuarm.g...@arius.com  writes: I have to say I am philosophically opposed to any feature that allows a design to pass DRC when the layout differs from the schematic.

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Rages
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:39 AM, rickman gnuarm.g...@arius.com wrote: On 4/7/2011 1:13 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: rickmangnuarm.g...@arius.com  writes: I have to say I am philosophically opposed to any feature that allows a design to pass DRC when the layout differs from the schematic.

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread rickman
On 4/8/2011 12:57 PM, Mark Rages wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:39 AM, rickmangnuarm.g...@arius.com wrote: On 4/7/2011 1:13 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: rickmangnuarm.g...@arius.comwrites: I have to say I am philosophically opposed to any feature that allows a design to pass DRC when

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread John Griessen
On 04/08/2011 11:44 AM, Russell Dill wrote: I'm not sure if it could be done simpler, but for a special copper trace that connects two planes, you would do DRC twice, one time ignoring between the trace and plane A, and another between the trace and plane B. That is a method consistent with

Re: gEDA-user: lost mail

2011-04-08 Thread DJ Delorie
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Re: gEDA-user: Power users us normal users, a conflict?

2011-04-08 Thread John Doty
On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: I do not see a conflict between GUI and make, the first ist a good way to make features of the second discoverable. Only if each individual tool is *simple*. Complex menus make features *less* discoverable. Besides, if your use case

Re: gEDA-user: lost mail

2011-04-08 Thread Vincent
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:48:19 -0400 From: DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com The gEDA mailing lists are archived off the gEDA web page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:mailinglists Thank you ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

gEDA-user: inherited attributes

2011-04-08 Thread Vincent
# From: Kai-Martin Knaak knaak@xxx # Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:32:42 +0200 Vincent wrote: How the inherited attributes are entered in components? I couldn't find any information. I modified some preexisting component and then entered new name, footprint etc. If check the box

Re: gEDA-user: Power users us normal users, a conflict?

2011-04-08 Thread Rubén Gómez Antolí
Hello: First of all, a aclaration for Stephan Boettcher: I'm not refering how power users to a CLI users, power users is a user that have a great knowledge of using the tools, all the tools including makefiles, bash, gEDA... I'm a CLI users and, certainly, I'm not a power user. El 08/04/11

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Karl Hammar
John Griessen: ... Do we have a way to make a zero Ohm two terminal footprint with some copper inside, or pad overlap, that connects the pads and fits with the pcb program? I can't remember for sure, but think not... Another way to say that is, can we have footprint numbered pads of

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread DJ Delorie
# shorting trace Pad [ -1.550mm 0.000mm1.550mm 0.000mm 0.5mm 0.5mm 0.700mm c c square ] Perhaps a new flag for pads that means non-net copper ? Then square,nonnet (for example) tells 'o' to ignore that copper when determining connectivity, but DRC would still check it for

Re: gEDA-user: inherited attributes

2011-04-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:29 -0400, Vincent wrote: Here are the 2 sym original and the modified respectively. You have modified much... This is the output of gsymcheck for the second symbol, please check. stefan@AMD64X2 ~/ttt $ gsymcheck -vv s2.sym Read garbage in [/home/stefan/ttt/s2.sym] :

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Russell Dill
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:   # shorting trace   Pad [ -1.550mm  0.000mm    1.550mm 0.000mm   0.5mm 0.5mm 0.700mm c c square ] Perhaps a new flag for pads that means non-net copper ?  Then square,nonnet (for example) tells 'o' to ignore that copper

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Steven Michalske
In theory, we could support that flag in *any* object, but I'm not sure how to manage the relationship between, say, a non-net trace on an inner plane and the schematic/netlist.  I asked someone who used a BigName EDA package how they did it, and they had a completely different class of