Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]

2011-07-27 Thread Peter TB Brett
Larry Doolittle writes: > John - > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:07:51PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: >> Larry Doolittle is going to be there in person. What can we tell them >> to get them interested in gEDA more than KiCAD? > > Not push and shove, unless someone (not me) goes wild > programming

Re: gEDA-user: SCM_ASSERT() with false SCM_ARGx

2011-07-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: > From guile documentation: > > -- Macro: void SCM_ASSERT (int TEST, SCM OBJ, unsigned int POSITION, > const char *SUBR) > ... > -- Macro: int SCM_ARG1 > ... > -- Macro: int SCM_ARG7 > One of the above values can be used for POSITION to ind

Re: gEDA-user: dir = g_dir_open() should be freed by g_dir_close(dir)

2011-07-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: > [snip] Thanks Karl. I've committed both your patches. In future, please help me get your patches integrated more quickly & efficiently by following the instructions in the gEDA `HACKING' file. If for some reason you cannot use Launchpad to submit patche

Re: gEDA-user: fixed bugs still listed as "hot" in launchpad

2011-07-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
Kai-Martin Knaak writes: > Hi. > > I noticed, that the default list of "hot" bugs in launchpad contains > bugs with status "fix_commited". While it is nice to see bugs actually > fixed, this makes the listing less useful. Can this be configured > differently? In the Launchpad system, bugs with f

Re: gEDA-user: Crash in gschem

2011-06-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
Eivind Kvedalen writes: > Using head (dad94bf12c2ef120fae7a45a0020107815b84ef0), gschem crashes > when double-clicking on an object. Fixed. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpiRoKiRZuYB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: gEDA-user: Crash when rotating whole board

2011-06-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
Thomas Oldbury writes: > Bump. Not a major problem but would be nice to see fixed. Anyone know what > could cause this? > Just a reminder that if you want to make sure that problems that you've reported don't get lost in the list archives, it's always a good idea to file a bug report. For PCB,

Re: gEDA-user: Draft documentation for Scheme API

2011-06-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 24 June 2011 22:44:29 Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've now written the documentation for the Scheme API so far (in > TexInfo, simply because that was the quickest way to get it done and > looking nice). I've put an HTML version on the web temporarily

gEDA-user: Draft documentation for Scheme API

2011-06-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, I've now written the documentation for the Scheme API so far (in TexInfo, simply because that was the quickest way to get it done and looking nice). I've put an HTML version on the web temporarily here: http://peter-b.co.uk/geda/geda-scheme/ That URL will change soon(ish), and I'll

Re: gEDA-user: web version of gschem/pcb

2011-06-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
Josh Jordan writes: > It would make development easier if you only support a set of > standards instead of different build environments that overall run on > a minority of the systems out there. Sorry Josh, but that's just not true. There's only one desktop platform on which gEDA isn't fully su

Re: gEDA-user: gschem saving symbols

2011-06-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
Josh Jordan writes: > The script opens a dialog to save the symbol and it also loads the > symbol on its own page.  I think we could skip the file chooser and > make this function open the modified symbol in the Hierarchy menu in a > "Down Symbol Instance" option.  Then you can save-as from there

Re: gEDA-user: gschem saving symbols

2011-06-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
Josh Jordan writes: > I could implement a save-symbol-as capability.  Can anyone familiar > with gschem code outline a 'right' way to this?  Should I add another > option to Hierarchy "down modified symbol" and change the other to > "down original symbol"?  Or would it be better to add a 'save sy

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: crash on Find

2011-06-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
> 1) I can't locate the git command to tell you exactly what you have > checked out. Use `git describe'. Ideally, PCB should show the git version in --version output, like gnetlist does if you're running unstable: $ gnetlist --version gEDA 1.7.0 (g09c6613) Copyright (C) 1998-2011 gEDA dev

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes with the same value

2011-06-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
Kai-Martin Knaak writes: > Do attributes have to be unique within a symbol? Currently, > gschem/gnetlist is a bit indifferent. This has been discussed before: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/34557/focus=34677 Upshot: current behaviour is inconsistent. They don't have to be un

Re: gEDA-user: import schematics with local footprints

2011-06-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
Kai-Martin Knaak writes: > Ethan Swint wrote: > >> I've got the line >> (component-library-search "/../../footprints") >> in my gafrc file. Does that set a priority? > > I just double checked. This setting does not seem to affect the > choice of footprints in any way. Correct. > The term comp

gEDA-user: Blog post: Porting gEDA to Guile 2.0, and future plans

2011-06-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi all, I just published a blog post in which I discuss porting to Guile 2, and ask for suggestions about what part of gEDA I should hack on next. It includes a description of the various work-in-progress branches that I've currently got on the back burner, which might be of interest. http://

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA with Guile 2.0

2011-06-03 Thread Peter TB Brett
> Currently, the only known problem is that the `drc2' gnetlist backend > is broken. This is now fixed, and there are no known issues with using the gEDA main development branch with Guile 2.0. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgp

gEDA-user: gEDA with Guile 2.0

2011-06-03 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, I've just checked in some changes that enable gEDA to compile and run with Guile 2.0. Please report any issues. Currently, the only known problem is that the `drc2' gnetlist backend is broken. Regards, Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey

gEDA-user: Unsubscribing from the list

2011-05-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, It's no longer a worthwhile use of my time to monitor this list, due to the excessively low signal-to-noise ratio. I'm therefore unsubscribing from it for the time being. I will continue to monitor the gEDA-bug and gEDA-dev mailing lists. If you wish to get help with using gEDA, ple

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: simple FreeType fonts implementation -- update?

2011-05-13 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 13 May 2011 17:34:21 Colin D Bennett wrote: > > Note that it's been mentioned that PCB's internal "text" > > representation should switch from ASCII-7 to UTF-8, and I agree. > > That should be quite simple and painless, right? Fully > backward-compatible. *cringe* Those sound like fam

Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem

2011-05-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:06:01 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > [snip] > > Now I get a decent gschem GUI :-) Great! > [snip] > > What would be the HOME in windows. Or alternatively, how would I give > a full windows path that includes backslashes and the drive letter? Just like that, I think (you may

Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem

2011-05-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wed, 11 May 2011 19:08:07 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > >> boot-9.scm is part of Guile (it's the master Scheme script needed to >> initialise the interpreter). Guile may not be installed correctly. Try >> running 'guile' and

Re: gEDA-user: minipack-result -- gschem

2011-05-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:31:35 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >> -minipack-gschem-with-winXP-in-Virtualbox-- >> C:\Programme\result\bin>gschem.exe >> ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: >> ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load

Re: gEDA-user: drc2 crash

2011-02-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > I am attempting to run the drc2 check with gnetlist.  I have checked > each  individual schematic separately, and drc2 works fine.  But when I > tried to run  them altogether I am getting the following crash: Stack overflows in gnetlist should never occur in 1.7.

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist (bug?) subcircuit symbol without pinnumbers

2011-01-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 30 January 2011 14:05:23 Stephan Boettcher wrote: > $ gnetlist --version > gnetlist: unrecognized option '--version' I added the -V,--version option in the 1.7.x branch... sorry. :-/ Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Ce

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering minute smt

2011-01-27 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 27 January 2011 15:47:37 Rob Butts wrote: > Holy miniature footprints Batman!!! > > I'm trying to solder a 10 pin MSOP chip to a home made circuit board. These are incredibly difficult to solder without solder mask, in my experience. Whenever I've had a design that called for them,

Re: gEDA-user: going multi core

2011-01-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > just one such core. Can I expect a spectacular speed-up of gschem > and pcb? Or are they throttled by the graphic card anyway? gschem is a single-threaded application. It runs on one core, no matter how many you have. So no, don't expect a big speed up.

Re: gEDA-user: gsymcheck - show line numbers?

2011-01-25 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 22:32:21 william estrada wrote: > Is there a way to make gsymcheck show the line numbers with the > error messages?? Not at the moment, sorry. Peter [ Technical info: the libgeda symbol file parser does not preserve object origin informatio

Re: gEDA-user: Windows gEDA port

2011-01-25 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 22:09:10 Chris Malton wrote: > I too have done some work in so much as getting a full gEDA suite > working under Cygwin. MinGW is probably a better option though. > There are two main reasons MinGW is better: 1) Cygwin is slow (not sure why, but on a previous proj

Re: gEDA-user: Windows gEDA port

2011-01-25 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 25 January 2011 21:52:52 Terrance Hutchinson wrote: > I would like to help develop the Windows port. Your wiki said that if > I was interested, I should post to this list. > > I have been working as a computer engineer for a little over 2 years > at a company specializing storage orient

gEDA-user: gsch2pcb bug with '-' in filenames fixed

2011-01-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, I just committed a fix for the bug in gsch2pcb that breaks things when footprint names contain '-'. Please test and let me know if you encounter any problems. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ ged

Re: gEDA-user: auto-uref increments by twos

2011-01-23 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 23 January 2011 05:59:29 jb...@frii.com wrote: > As Mithat Konar posted on Sept 6, 2010, I too am now having auto-uref > number my components starting with 2 and incrementing by 2. I've > just upgraded to 1.6.1.20100214 and it works beautifully (I had been > using a significantly older v

Re: gEDA-user: speed of the gschem GUI

2011-01-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > A good strategy is always to have a bounding box for each element, and > to draw only elements when their bounding box overlaps with the visible > part on screen. So not rely on cairo's clipping. We already do this. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote

Re: gEDA-user: git based wiki

2011-01-21 Thread Peter TB Brett
If we're talking about changing things, here's my totally unreasonable and unrealistic documentation system wishlist. - Markup: should look as much like a "plain" text document as possible, so that it's easy to read and edit the documentation without having to continually process it to double-c

Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error

2011-01-21 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 21 Jan 2011 15:16:45 Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 22:39 -0500, Ben Gamari wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:07:23 +, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Error sounded like it might be a classic: > > > > > > Don't put "-" in footprint names > > > > Ahhh. That would explain it.

Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error

2011-01-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 21 January 2011 00:32:29 Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Works for me. See attached log. > Now that I've installed PCB properly, I can reproduce the bug. It's *probably* a gEDA bug, so please file a bug report so that I remember to look at it after I

Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error

2011-01-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi Ben, Works for me. See attached log. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre -*- mode: compilation; default-directory: "/home/peter/Projects/geda/beagle-daq/" -*- Compilation started at Fri Jan 21 00:30:26 make pcb gsch2pcb -v proj

Re: gEDA-user: Strange gsch2pcb error

2011-01-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 20 January 2011 23:59:24 Ben Gamari wrote: > [1] gito...@goldnerlab.physics.umass.edu:beagle-daq What's the password, please? Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]

2011-01-18 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 01:00:32 John Doty wrote: > > Example: Create square with solid background. Create smaller circle > > with hashed background, set to a different colour. Move circle on > > top of square. Obviously, if z-order is not preserved through save > > and load, this will be rend

Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 January 2011 18:30:35 Steve Wiseman wrote: > Or should I fire up gEDA on something smaller and less visible first? > Anyone want to hold my hand while I do it? Smaller and less visible, first, I would say, if only so that you can get a feel for whether gEDA/pcb lacks features *requi

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 08:10:24 Stephan Boettcher wrote: > al davis writes: > > How about prefixing simulation attributes with a dot. > > No, please, use a proper namespace prefix, like > > spice- verilog- sim- > spice: verilog: sim: > > Backend namespaces, use namespaces, with fallbacks into

Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 12:17:50 Karl Hammar wrote: > Tibor: > ... > > > Maybe I oversimplify it, but I still suggesting having UUIDs. Long > > random numbers, like 256 bits, stored in hex. Whenever a new object > > appears, generate a new one. Whenever an object is transformed, keep the > > UUID. Wh

Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 11:07:16 John Doty wrote: > >> At each level in this tree the order of the branches does not matter. > > > > No. It does matter; the ordering indicates the draw order of primitives > > in any viewer or graphics exporter. Arguably, it shouldn't, but if not, > > the file forma

Re: gEDA-user: .sch primitive ordering [was: Collaborative Development of Boards]

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 08:58:18 John Doty wrote: > On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Due to the way the gschem editing model works, and particularly the undo > > system, stuff tends to get shifted to the end of the file when edited. > > This is something

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to set the margin for printing?

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 January 2011 02:07:32 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Hi. > The print dialog of gschem offers "Extents with margins" by default. > This margin is larger than necessary or my printer. But no margin is > too little. Is there a way to set the size of the margin? I couldn't > find "margin" in sy

Re: gEDA-user: Collaborative Development of Boards

2011-01-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 17 January 2011 08:01:53 ge...@igor2.repo.hu wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:22:02AM +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > > ge...@igor2.repo.hu writes: > > > If you edit one object, that won't ever move other objects around > > > by side effect. VCS systems I know depend on this feature.

Re: gEDA-user: Rant about "Make Inv Text Vis"

2011-01-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 16 January 2011 17:22:06 Peter Clifton wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 08:03 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:47:19 + > > > > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Are there any use-cases for invisible text which is not an > > > attribute? Since it might exist already th

Re: gEDA-user: Rant about "Make Inv Text Vis"

2011-01-15 Thread Peter TB Brett
> > Consider it napalmed. > > Napalmed ain't enough - I want that option *nuked* (from orbit yet).   It's the only way to be sure.                   Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing l

Re: gEDA-user: Bug in [ctrl-a]

2011-01-14 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > Hi. > In git head, there is a new feature to select all with [ctrl-a]. > Under specific circumstances, visible attributes move at double pace > compared to the rest of the symbol. To reproduce: That sounds like a bug in moving to me. Did you file bug report?

Re: gEDA-user: Rant about "Make Inv Text Vis"

2011-01-14 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > What is the point of the command Make Inv Text Vis in gschem, other than > aggravating me. Good question. I'm not aware of a use-case for it either. At the very least, it should be undo-able. Please file a bug report. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Se

Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 02:46:40 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >> • gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its > >> refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No > >> uncapitalized suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from > >> dedicated attr

Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 00:03:50 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > • geda documentation: There is no wiki page for gsch2pcb. Best bet is > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gsch2pcb I just added `man gsch2pcb', by the way. But not to the wiki. BTW, copying the manpages into the wiki is a bad thin

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:07:37 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > >> For full triage you have to be a member of the bug team (geda-bugs, or > >> pcb-bugs). Else, you get no edit buttons next to the importance button. > >> I'd expect, that this is configurable and the status can al

Re: gEDA-user: Accessing the repository using anonymous CVS

2011-01-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 09 January 2011 17:51:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > There used to be a CVS mirror of the git repo. The wiki still points > to it but notes, it is currently offline: > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scm?&#committing_patches_from_other_contribu > tors > > Is this access supposed to be worki

Re: gEDA-user: Browsing the source code...

2011-01-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
- Original message - > I just noticed on the gEDA Launchpad page > (https://code.launchpad.net/geda) that it says: > > You can browse the source code for the development focus branch or get > a copy of the branch using the command: >      bzr branch lp:geda > > Shouldn't that be >    gi

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 23:31:43 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > >> Nice. > >> Would you object against a merge with "Howto report bugs"? > > > > I don't think that one is really needed -- reporting bugs and triaging > &g

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 22:44:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Gareth Edwards wrote: > > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:bug_triage_guide > > Nice. > Would you object against a merge with "Howto report bugs"? I don't think that one is really needed -- reporting bugs and triaging bugs are differen

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 21:26:59 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Gareth Edwards wrote: > > Think it's worthwhile me trying to capture the process on the wiki > > somewhere > > IMHO, bug reporting is worth a dedicated page in the wiki. > I just started one at: > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:howto_r

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 19:33:40 Gareth Edwards wrote: > On 8 January 2011 19:28, Peter Clifton wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 19:16 +, Gareth Edwards wrote: > >> Does it make sense to move (other peoples) Wishlist items to > >> Confirmed, or just leave them as New? Just thinking these

Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad: pcb next-bug-release

2011-01-08 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 10:16:48 Bert Timmerman wrote: > Hi all, > > On https://launchpad.net/pcb/+milestone/next-bug-release > > I see some bugs marked with the status "fix-released". > > IMO these should aleady be included in the latest release of pcb (20100929) > and not in the list for t

Re: gEDA-user: origin/master ... origin/stable-1.6 ?

2011-01-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 08 January 2011 02:02:38 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Hi Peter B, Peter C. > > Just noted that "git fetch" of git://git.gpleda.org/gaf reports > two branches. origin/master and origin/stable-1.6 . What is the > significance of these? Where should I look for the brave new features > that g

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 07 January 2011 20:55:31 Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:22:53 + > > Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Please use "Fix released" only if the fix has been in a released > > version (the latest release was 1.6.1). Otherwise, use "Fix >

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 07 January 2011 10:14:19 Peter Clifton wrote: > Grab "git HEAD" of whichever package the bug is in (if you don't have it > already), and try to confirm whether the bug is still present or not. > > Bug present: New -> Confirmed > Bug absent: Make a comment - set bug to "Invalid", >

Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad up & running [was: SourceForge bug trackers frozen]

2011-01-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 06 January 2011 16:38:59 Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi folks, > > In case you're wondering where the gEDA/gaf bug trackers at SourceForge.net > have disappeared to, they've been shut down so that no new changes occur > while Peter C gets the bugs impo

Re: gEDA-user: Official gEDA/gaf documentation -- is the wiki working?

2011-01-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 07 January 2011 00:02:21 Kai-Martin wrote: > IMHO, reference manuals should be written in a format that the most > prolific developers are comfortable with. They are the ones, who are > responsible for this part of the documentation. Sure. The specific documentation I was thinking shou

gEDA-user: SourceForge bug trackers frozen

2011-01-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, In case you're wondering where the gEDA/gaf bug trackers at SourceForge.net have disappeared to, they've been shut down so that no new changes occur while Peter C gets the bugs imported to their new home at Launchpad.net. The conversion has now been completed, and we're just waiting

gEDA-user: Conflicting attributes (was: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes ...)

2011-01-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 19:04:37 John Doty wrote: > On Jan 5, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 January 2011 18:38:04 John Doty wrote: > >> They're not especially bad. In that project "make clean; make" generates > >> 207

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.

2011-01-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 18:38:04 John Doty wrote: > > They're not especially bad. In that project "make clean; make" generates > 2074 lines of chatter, only about 1/3 of them from gschem and gnetlist. > The worst offender is pdflatex. > > You can see how a warning could easily be lost. > T

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.

2011-01-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 17:49:50 John Doty wrote: > WARNING: Trying to rename something twice: > X2/GND and X2/GND > are both a src and dest name > This warning is okay if you have multiple levels of hierarchy! I've never known this warning to actually indicate a problem with a design.

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.

2011-01-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 16:32:48 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Well, no, because you will now get a BIG FAT WARNING every time you run > > gnetlist. > > You mean, I will receive this big fat warning for every symbol I attach > more than one com

gEDA-user: [PATCH] gsch2pcb: Add `outline' layer to default PCB template.

2011-01-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi Kai-Martin, Could you please test this patch and see if it does what you had in mind? Thanks, Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre From 69c00410599bbd1580e2c353553c4d63a99f0f3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Peter TB Brett Date

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb (was: Wiki cleanup?)

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
> By the way: If gsch2pcb were to include the outline layer in the > initial layer stack, this source of newbie confusion would be defused. If you file a feature request to jog my memory, I can probably implement that tomorrow, I mean, later today. Even better, you could submit a patch... shoul

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes (was: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager)

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 00:42:07 John Doty wrote: > On Jan 4, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Matthew Wilkins wrote: > > What are typical use cases for having multiple same-named attributes in a > > symbol? > > A slotted symbol generally needs multiple slotdef attributes. > > A hierarchical symbol will ha

Re: gEDA-user: Does Google do not like us any more?

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 22:55:39 Stefan Salewski wrote: > From time to time I have problems finding my own geda postings again. > > Just tried a google search for > > site:archives.seul.org Boettcher huge mess > > Gives no results for me -- should give > > http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 20:42:28 Stephan Boettcher wrote: > "Johnny Rosenberg" writes: > > I created this symbol, it's the 74-series version of the 4066 (4 > > bilateral switches), called 744066 (as in 74LV4066, for example): > > > > > > > > > > > > The documentation of the symbol can be f

Re: gEDA-user: Shutting down SourceForge trackers for migration to Launchpad

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 18:07:21 Peter Clifton wrote: > I have discussed the plans for migration quite openly, and have had > input and/or feedback from most developers on the two projects. If > moving over at some point during the next couple of days causes anyone a > problem, please let me kn

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/2] gnetlist: Add access to all attributes from components with multiple symbol instances.

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 17:45:29 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Patrick Bernaud wrote: > > This commit introduces 'gnetlist:get-all-package-attributes' to > > retrieve every first attribute value for package consisting of > > multiple symbol instances. > > So this resolves one of the more annoying w

Re: gEDA-user: DRC Problem

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 16:24:26 Dan Quist wrote: > Hello, I have a problem with the DRC check. In the included file, is > Drc_maker.sh which when run will result in a stack overflow: > Hi Dan, This is a known issue with the 1.6.x versions of the DRC2 backend. It is fixed in the git versio

Re: gEDA-user: gschem usability: expand the component tree after filtering

2011-01-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 08:59:26 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: > 2011/1/4 kai-martin knaak : > > +1 > > Every click that can be avoided for common tasks adds to the > > productivity. I hope, this patch will be accepted. > > Thanks to cooperation with Peter B it is already accepted. Yes, I a

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH 1/3] Quick testcase for patch #3071482.

2011-01-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 02 January 2011 17:19:23 Patrick Bernaud wrote: > > [snip] > > 2 files changed, 169 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > create mode 100644 tests/testcase.sch > create mode 100644 tests/testcase.scm > > diff --git a/tests/testcase.sch b/tests/testcase.sch > > [snip] > Hi Patrick, Where e

Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
> Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied? > (The way Peter Clifton makes his GL-enabled version of pcb available to > potential testers) This patch is on my list of things to look at when I get home in a couple of hours -- it seems like a good idea in principle, so hope

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 24 December 2010 10:27:20 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > Den 2010-12-24 00:53:38 skrev Stefan Salewski : > > On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:38 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:31 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > >> > Value: → Enter ”390k”. > >> > > >> > Does it look nice?

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 24 December 2010 10:12:42 timecop wrote: > > But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX? > > Because you just ruled out the remaining 1% of people who even wanted > to help with writing any kinda documentation. > Wrong. I much prefer writing LaTeX to writing wiki syntax. Also,

Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

2010-12-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read > things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to > fill that in by using the Text tool ...? Yes! That's what I do, anyway. Other p

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad

2010-12-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 11:40:39 Peter Clifton wrote: > After much hard work, manual tweaking, and even a patch to Launchpad > (rolling out onto production servers soon)... I've got something for > people to PLAY WITH!: > > https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/pcb > https://bugs.staging.launchpad.n

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad

2010-12-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 11:40:39 Peter Clifton wrote: > Everything transferred has been given a "sf-import" tag, and the origin > tracker is identified (if not "bugs"), by an additional "patch-tracker" > or "support-request" tag. We _could_ change that to a single "sf-bugs" > "sf-patches" "sf-sup

Re: gEDA-user: Duplicate messages and mailing list To: address

2010-12-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 20 December 2010 18:38:55 Colin D Bennett wrote: > I'm getting all the replies to Kai-Martin Knaak's messages twice. It > looks like it has something to do with K-M's messages having a To: field > of geda-u...@seul.org while everyone else's has > geda-user@moria.seul.org, causing the rep

Re: gEDA-user: Guile/gschem problem

2010-12-18 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 18 December 2010 20:43:41 Eduardo Costa wrote: > Thanks Peter for your quick answer!, > > No. Mine's a custom made distro (sort of `linux from scratch') I made > years ago and have been updating by hand as it takes place, although I > doubt that's the problem. > > I always run into tr

Re: gEDA-user: Guile/gschem problem

2010-12-18 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 18 December 2010 20:32:11 Eduardo Costa wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to compile the suite, but while it does so, I get this > infamous error when trying to start gschem: > The suite currently only works with Guile 1.8.x. The last time I saw this error, it was when I tried compi

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns "?" - ID: 3114991

2010-12-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
> In any case, it seems to me that the user should get an error message > (from spice-sdb) in this case, as an explicit "?" here means that the > user has neither set the attribute to something useful nor deleted it as > irrelevant. So what you are saying is that you think we should get rid of the

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns "?" - ID: 3114991

2010-12-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 16 December 2010 20:43:23 c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: > Ok so we toss current patch in 3114991. Done. > Should I make a new one that > replaces all the "?" in symbols / blocks with "unknown"? That sounds like a good idea, actually. > If spice-sdb should choke on any remaining "?" it

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
> Before this deteriorates into a "my software is better than your > software" contest, can I suggest that we try to keep things on-topic? An excellent suggestion. Peter >:-( -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre __

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns "?" - ID: 3114991

2010-12-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
> To fix it in a uniform way I think we need to standardise what we > use as a place holder for an attribute. Sould we explicitly put > "unknown"  or "?"? Unfortunitly gschem won't let you put a null string. Hi Clif, Since at the moment gnetlist internally uses the string "unknown" to indicate

Re: gEDA-user: TRACKERS [was: Re: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]]

2010-12-10 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:06:06 Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 21:22 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: > > ... gEDA and friends can even keep the SF tracker system ... > > Actually, I have been looking quite seriously at the possibility of > ditching SF trackers and moving all the h

Re: gEDA-user: Dev list [was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB]

2010-12-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 09 Dec 2010 09:35:53 Stephan Boettcher wrote: > DJ Delorie writes: > > If you want to become a PCB committer, the process starts by writing > > good patches, reviewing other people's patches, and being involved in > > design discussions. When it gets to the point where the maintainers

Re: gEDA-user: Small patch to aid use of lib dmalloc

2010-12-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Monday 06 Dec 2010 13:31:09 Peter Clifton wrote: > I did loose some respect for the dmalloc author(s) when I noticed on > their page they can't spell "Microsoft Windows" correctly. "Windoze" > > In general, valgrind (probably not even conceived of when dmalloc was > first written), is a much mo

Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB

2010-12-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 02 December 2010 21:13:47 Bob Paddock wrote: > Peter, while all of this sounds great, could we fix the collective > problems that we have now first? Like what, specifically? > > Scrap straight line rats in favour of using the topological auto-router? > > Do different rat lines help

Re: gEDA-user: New autorouter high effort mode

2010-12-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 01 December 2010 12:51:41 Kovacs Levente wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:53:38 +1100 > Stephen Ecob > > wrote: > > For my HE autorouter hack I have in mind to fork() off extra processes > > so that all of my CPU cores can run separate autorouter instances. As > > HE has an unbounded

Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc

2010-11-19 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 19 November 2010 12:22:05 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > I'd like to replace this with the name of the schematic. The lp command can > set the base name of the file with the option -t. But how would I teach > gschemrc to automatically fill in the file name of the current schematic? > Is there

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-19 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 11:09:34 timecop wrote: > With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets > (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not > really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Even this single sentence contains so many fa

Re: gEDA-user: gschem pin numbers

2010-11-13 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 13 November 2010 18:03:10 Stefan Salewski wrote: > or you may try the new scheme API of Peter TB Brett, mentioned some > weeks ago on this list. > > >As an example of how gschem plugins can be written using this API, the > >attached `hide-pinseq.scm' file

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