Re: gEDA-user: taking issue with Symbol creation

2010-01-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:41 AM, phil wrote: > John Doty wrote: >> With the exception of slotted components, of course. > > So among pinnumber, pinlabel, and pinseq the symbol creator > should > make pinseq the visible attribute because it is this number that will > get incremented by slottin(?

Re: gEDA-user: [SOT] suggestion for a SMT switch

2010-01-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jason wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: >>> I'm concerned about leakage.  This device will probably sit on a >>> shelf for some time (with battery inserted, pic in sleep mode).  I >>> wanted to make sure there wasn't a trickle of current through the >>> motor. >> >> Perhap

Re: gEDA-user: ANN: gschem symbol rotation script

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 29, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Rages > wrote: >> >> I have written a Python script to do free rotation of gschem symbols, >> then snap pins to the nearest gridpoint. > > > No comments? I've added a couple screenshots. > I'd like to

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Edward Hennessy wrote: > Regarding component databases: > > I'm working on a parts manager for gEDA. Although not completely > functional yet, the source is located in the git archive. > Sounds great! You might want to get input from the folks that use geda

Re: gEDA-user: Ancient pcb versions on Fink/MacPorts

2009-12-28 Thread Steven Michalske
> Where can I get a more modern version of pcb for a Mac? Or is this a > case where Fink/MacPorts aren't useful and I need to do everything > from scratch? > Don, I build from git source after using fink/macports to install the dependencies. ( i like bleeding edge, and hack the code occasionally)

Re: gEDA-user: gschem rotate symbol 45 degrees

2009-12-28 Thread Steven Michalske
> How is this accomplished with gschem? > draw 4 lines to make the box, mind the points where the pins attach, you will want them to land on a grid intersection. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

2009-12-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> family symbols might be a good concept.  it's a medium weight symbol >> for a family of parts.  e.g. an FPGA family, or uC family, or is this >> still a light symbol? > > For example, resistor-1.sym, resistor-2.sym, and resistor-3.sym are > a

Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

2009-12-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I took the time to document my ideas about heavy vs light symbols and > the pin mapping problem: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/component-dbs.html here here, i'd like to see the generic ABI defined. family symbols might be a good concept. i

Re: gEDA-user: PCB line limit of 255 in pcb

2009-12-26 Thread Steven Michalske
globalconst.h:#define MAX_NETLIST_LINE_LENGTH 255 /* maximum line length for netlist files */ change this number to something appropriate for your netlist. How was this netlist created? because it seems that there is a bug upstream that should be wrapping the lines at 255, and i'd s

Re: gEDA-user: OT: large (29 inch) boards?

2009-12-22 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:52 PM, phil wrote: > Kyle Bassett wrote: >> why so long? if you don't mind me asking... > > They are a replacement board for this machine: > > http://plastitar.com/flickinger/ak_flick_3JAN2007/front_3.JPG That's awesome! you might want to tessellate your boards to make

Re: gEDA-user: OT: large (29 inch) boards?

2009-12-22 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:05 PM, David Griffith wrote: > On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, phil wrote: > >> I'm trying to find a shop that will make 29" long boards. They are >> simple 1/16" two layer boards and will have card edge connectors. >> >> Is there a known vendor for this type of work? >> >> Thank you,

Re: gEDA-user: Font sizes messed up in gschem on Mac OS X 10.6

2009-12-21 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > I'm hoping one of the gEDA users who use Mac OS X will come forward > with > a recipe for getting gEDA 1.6.0 working. (Or at least re-assure me > that > it can be made to work!) Build dependencies with macports, and install gEDA from source

Re: gEDA-user: Problems with MOSFET symbols in PCB

2009-12-18 Thread Steven Michalske
The m4 part library has a higher order of operation over foot print libraries, the TO220-GSD is matching the m4 TO220 not the footprint TO220-GSD You do not want to use a - in the footprint names, as out m4 setup can't escape the - in footprint names, so I always use underscores _ Alternat

Re: gEDA-user: Problems with MOSFET symbols in PCB

2009-12-17 Thread Steven Michalske
A pseudo heavy approach, i like it. But I gave up on generic mosfet symbols long ago. I now copy the mosfet symbol with the correct number of pins and edit the pin values for that specific FET i have had too many near missses and hits with any layout program from source drain swapping. Stev

Re: gEDA-user: geda build error on Mac OS

2009-12-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 10, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Craig Niederberger wrote: >> Glad you got it to work.. hopefully we can get a confirmation at some >> point that its not "our" fault from some other mac user. Is msgmerge >> broken? > > Thanks for your help, and for the info on the RANDR msg. There's an > excellent

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-12-07 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:09 AM, John Doty wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:41 AM, John Doty wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Stuart Brorson wrote: As an alternative

Re: gEDA-user: Switch gschem to another scripting language?

2009-12-04 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >>> It implies that the person with this attitude >>> doesn't want to learn, which is a terrible attitude for a practicing >>> engineer. > > Diagnosing groups of users wholesale a terrible attitude is not very > constructive. Even more to the

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-12-04 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:41 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > >> >> On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Stuart Brorson wrote: >> >>> As an alternative to scheme, some would prefer to see TCL. I have >>> no >

Re: gEDA-user: Ideas for fixing slotting, methodology discussion, NOT implementation details!

2009-11-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 20, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Bill Gatliff wrote: > Steven Michalske wrote: >> What do we need to define? >> I will logically split a symbol and a component now, but we shouldn't >> make the assumption that the will be split in the final >> implementation. >

Re: gEDA-user: Ideas for fixing slotting, methodology discussion, NOT implementation details!

2009-11-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 20, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Bill Gatliff wrote: I'll go you one better. I want to draw discrete resistor symbols in my schematic diagram, and then during component selection satisfy their requirements from the circuits provided by a resistor network. I also want to draw discrete

gEDA-user: Ideas for fixing slotting, methodology discussion, NOT implementation details!

2009-11-20 Thread Steven Michalske
Slotting is broke, the thread that prompted this this mail proves that. no change we make here is going to work with how our users use slots The answer to this is simple. 1. Deprecate slots, leave its functionality as is. 2. Implement the method that we come up with, without regard to slots. 3.

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Stuart Brorson wrote: > As an alternative to scheme, some would prefer to see TCL. I have no > problem with that, as long as the interpreter is built-in. However, > there is a large installed base of scheme, so it's likely we're stuck > with it. I propose that the

Re: gEDA-user: Teardrop plugin

2009-11-19 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:03 AM, Vincent Onelli wrote: > Hello, > > I downloaded teardrop.c file, I would like to use, but I do not know > how > to compile and install can anybody give me direction? > Thank you. Vinny > > http://github.com/bert/pcb-plugins/ go clone that repo, and it has a makefil

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-19 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > If they fitted a dooms-day device controller on the spare die-space of > the chip.. that again, could be a separate symbol. May I remind you your under a NDA! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@m

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-18 Thread Steven Michalske
On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Bill Gatliff wrote: > Not sure if this question is related, but... > > Why not change the workflow so that during schematic capture, there > are > no pin numbers anywhere? "Pins" on symbols get assigned a physical > pin > number during some some later step, at t

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA and pcb status and minigration from Eagle

2009-11-13 Thread Steven Michalske
> > > [*] I release absolutely all my creations into public domain as a > matter > of religious philosophy, but whether or not anyone else likes them, > cares > about them or finds them useful is often of little concern to me. :-) > I'm an isolationist. You've been warned. > But I still enjoy

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Oct 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, michalwd1979 wrote: > Oh, I almost forgot: I've changed #define BACKUP_NAME in > globalconst.h from "PCB.%.i8.backup" to "/tmp/PCB.%.i8.backup", but > this should make any difference (I think) This is what probably killed you, if your computer had a restart in

Re: gEDA-user: plated mounting holes

2009-10-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 15:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> You can do the same thing with an element, and probably should, as >> mounting holes should be treated as elements. It would have one >> Pin() >> (for the hole and inner copper) an

Re: gEDA-user: sym files sorting

2009-10-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > The gschem gui seems to append new items to the bottom of the file. > As a > consequence, symbols done with the GUI are a pain to edit in a text > editor. Pins mix with comments and attributes in no particular > order. It > would be nice,

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Renumber Was/Is Once Again

2009-10-01 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > > I brought up this topic a couple of years ago and left it for dead > at > the time but now have the question again: > > Is there a script that can be performed on a PCB design that will > renumber the components on the board in some sp

Re: gEDA-user: merge multi symbol components

2009-08-12 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jul 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, John Griessen wrote: > John Doty wrote: >> On Jul 22, 2009, at 1:38 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> I'm all in favor of this. But the right way to do that with a toolkit is usually to wrap the tools with high level scripts. >>> Isn't that was the whole gnetlist pa

Re: gEDA-user: board stacking

2009-07-07 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:01 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:51 PM, gene glick wrote: > >> Just wondering what has been done in the past when stacking >> boards. For >> example, stacking with 2X4 header, through hole. On the base >> board, the >> pinout faces up and goes like: >> 2-4-6

Re: gEDA-user: Changing grids in pcb

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 29, 2009, at 6:28 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Wouldn't you just use set grid with the -+ for increment and process >> units? > > No. If you had a list of grid settings you used, then +- means > stepping through the list, not arithmetic changes. Consider my grid > choices: > >{ "0.1 m

Re: gEDA-user: Changing grids in pcb

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 29, 2009, at 6:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> a) The same grid accels, for metric and for imperial units. >> >> b) A configurable list of grid values rather than a fixed increment. >> >> c) Grid and display units should be set independently. That is, it >> should >> be possible to work wi

Re: gEDA-user: cylindrical SMT power resistor pad design: how to do a semi-circular cutout

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > inkscape > --> draw with real semicircle circle > --> save as eps (uncheck "make bounding box around page") That's how I did my footprint example :-P but saved as PNG for email. __

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy

2009-06-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 28, 2009, at 2:58 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > >> The power of text based file formats :-) > > The way I do connectors these days is that I have a "connector" > symbol that's just a box with refes=

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy

2009-06-28 Thread Steven Michalske
This is an age old debate in EDA software. Where is the symbol weight stored? In each symbol, or in a database. ( Note when I say database, it can be a flat file or full blown relational SQL ) The Heavy vs. Light symbol debate. both answers are correct. let's build infrastructure for bo

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy

2009-06-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 28, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Bill Gatliff wrote: > Steven Michalske wrote: >> >> Taking this as you can code some scripts up.. >> Here is one approach for you to try. >> >> >> > Aah, I hadn't even considered that possibility--- do it outs

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy (was: Re: slotting and power pins)

2009-06-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Bill Gatliff wrote: > As a "mostly software" guy, Taking this as you can code some scripts up.. Here is one approach for you to try. pick a small set of some chips you care about. lets say a large family of the AVR series. To the symbol: Add a vir

Re: gEDA-user: cylindrical SMT power resistor pad design: how to do a semi-circular cutout

2009-06-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 27, 2009, at 4:26 AM, S. Aguinaga wrote: Do you fellows have some pointers for me to generate the semi-circular cut out? You will need to generate the semi circle with many small rectangles. Their recommended footprint looks like it is generated with 7 rectangles. <> If

Re: gEDA-user: PCB footprint patch

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Michalske
and the patch :-P On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Steven Michalske wrote: > I forgot to add the .gitignore entry for src/build_info.h > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Steven Michalske > wrote: >> I was updating my local cache and saw that this was not upstream. >&g

Re: gEDA-user: PCB footprint patch

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Michalske
I forgot to add the .gitignore entry for src/build_info.h On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > I was updating my local cache and saw that this was not upstream. > > For those that use half can oscillators.

gEDA-user: [PCB] build info script revisited

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Michalske
This patch takes in to account DJ's comment on my original patch. This will not force a rebuild of files unless the header is updated by the script. No dependence on git, but uses it for build information. Falls back onto os based name gathering techniques. Supports a release file to force ver

gEDA-user: PCB footprint patch

2009-06-25 Thread Steven Michalske
I was updating my local cache and saw that this was not upstream. For those that use half can oscillators. Steve 0001-Make-8pin-dip-oscilator.patch Description: Binary data ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-

Re: gEDA-user: Handling odd solder paste shapes

2009-06-25 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Dave N6NZ wrote: > John Luciani wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >>> Me, I have a perl script that post-processes that layer to adjust >>> the >>> sizes for the paste I want. >> >> I was thinking of doing a Perl script that would subs

Re: gEDA-user: Freedog-like groups in Southern California?

2009-06-24 Thread Steven Michalske
On the Northern California front. I'm in sunnyvale, CA. Any other users in the area On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote: > Sorry man if you were in Northern California I'd have no problem > helping you. Good luck with your search. >

Re: gEDA-user: autorouter fixes and enhancements

2009-06-22 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 22, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: > On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >>> A bunch of fixes and enhancements to the original pcb autorouter >>> should now be available in the git repository. >> >> I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to th

Re: gEDA-user: Display issues: grid & lines missing in gschem

2009-06-17 Thread Steven Michalske
Git fetch just updates the repository on your computer, it does not update your working copy. git merge and git rebase will update your working copy. Steve On Jun 17, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Ethan Swint wrote: > No problems with other apps - I'll pull from git head. I'm > relatively > new to

Re: gEDA-user: Simple TL082 GNU-Cap Simulation

2009-06-16 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Michael B Allen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:59 PM, al davis > wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Michael B Allen wrote: >>> Is there a trick to using this model? >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >> >> You forgot to plug in the J-Fet. >> >> The Jfet model is n

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:30 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > 1. Requiring GIT for everyone building pcb sounds extreme; could we > auto-detect whether GIT is available? It should auto detect git. It was late but the second case statement was for when git was not present. to fall back on OS based metho

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> I've been soldering for 33 years now, no inexperienced hands >> here. The Pb-free stuff I've tried has just plain sucked. I will >> try the stuff Philipp mentioned though. >

gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
I got tired of not knowing which version of PCB I was using. linux guys, add your own real name detection :-) 0001-Adding-build-info-to-about-box.patch Description: Binary data ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/c

Re: gEDA-user: More flexible rotated text for 1.6.0, font-sizes etc..

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > Any objections to removing the 0,90,180,270 limits to rotated text? > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/screenshots/gschem_rotated_text.png > > Need to teach the print output to handle it of course, but that > shouldn't be too hard. > > T

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, der Mouse wrote: >> It's safe.  __DARWIN__ would be bad as darwin can run on other >> hardware. > > Does __DARWIN__ even exist?  A while ago I wanted to port some software > to Tiger and the best approximation to "we're on Darwin" I found was > __MACH__ and __APPLE__

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 8, 2009, at 3:15 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Is __APPLE__ a safe check? Is there any chance we'll trip over this >> with a different OS on apple hardware or OSX on a different platform? > > Well, it's safe for non-Apply users, and those with Apples will have > to figure out what they need.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> With patches fixed to master at >> c85fd7cfa63f6a89cb8b9a03dd0002ffdb613729 >> >> Tested with GTK and lesstif window managers under OSX, I'll leave it >> to the integrator for Linux/Windows testing. >> >> patch 2 depends on patch 1 still sepa

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-08 Thread Steven Michalske
27;m going to look into the new proper way to handle the panning with the new mouse code later. my old patch works but seems to stutter. Steve On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jared Casper wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: >> On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:04 PM, DJ Del

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-07 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:04 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> My mouse patch removed alt_pressed as it removed the only use of it >> (at the time). > > Ah. Could you send me one patch that does what you want, > self-contained, then? > I'll take a look at the new mouse handling code from Jared and rebase

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mount footprint pin pitch changes at different magnifications in PCB

2009-06-05 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:20 PM, John Coppens wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:15:34 -0400 > Rob Butts wrote: > >> I print out the etch pattern to make a home-made card the pins don't >> line up. > > How are you printing? Using postscript? Or via another program - maybe > GIMP or so? Does that program

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 2, 2009, at 12:34 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:25 -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: >> On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > >>> You could push it to the repo as a branch so that other people still >>> only >>> had on

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB PATCH] Teaching GTK hid to use mouse resources

2009-06-02 Thread Steven Michalske
Looks fantastic, some comments. need to look at gtk code for mod1, and OSX. see patch 1 from http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/May-2009/msg00457.html option (alt) returns 1<<13, not GDK_MOD1_MASK Might want to define a list of modifier masks, and allow for translation in the HIDs You hav

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-01 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 12:13:12AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: >> wanted to see a more stable PCB release out the door before that >> happened though - since there are many important bug fixes in PCB GIT >> HEAD, which aren't in the last release. (

Re: gEDA-user: Unplated pin with one-side copper ring

2009-06-01 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Tamas Szabo wrote: > Mark Rages wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Tamas Szabo >> wrote: >>> John Luciani wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Tamas Szabo <[1]sza2k...@freemail.hu > wrote: Hi, Can I make a pin wi

Re: gEDA-user: edit panel not appearing

2009-05-29 Thread Steven Michalske
No but do this Install 10.5.7 it's in software update, unless you have good reason not to. Then install xquartz from macosforge.com Might want to recompile after that. On May 29, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Michael Toth wrote: > Hi. > > I'm brand new to geda and gschem and was very excited to s

Re: gEDA-user: PCB layout for dc/dc-switching converter

2009-05-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On May 29, 2009, at 6:10 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I think I can make the copper areas with PCB polygons. But the pads of > the components will not touch the copper polygons by default. I wonder > if I should connect the pads to polygons by traces, or if I should > reduce the clearance of the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-05-19 Thread Steven Michalske
On May 19, 2009, at 1:13 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > The right way would be to finally teach the gtk hid how to load the > mouse actions from gpcb-menu.res, like the lesstif hid does. > > Do we have a defined list of mouse actions? > ___ > geda-user mail

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-05-19 Thread Steven Michalske
> > The last one (scrolling) changes the user interface, yes? Yes just the GTK ui I should have sent the patch separately. As it is unrelated to the first two. Does anyone have pointers on how to add a preference to PCB, I would like to add a preference to have the scroll wheel be either a

gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-05-18 Thread Steven Michalske
Some of the work i have done to make pcb a bit more user friendly. This patch allows for the HIDs to respond to the mod1 key, alt, option(Macs) 0001-Adding-the-ability-to-use-mod1-alt-option-in-HIDs.patch Description: Binary data This one allows you to temporarily override the auto enforc

Re: gEDA-user: pcb-newlib vs newlib

2009-05-18 Thread Steven Michalske
On May 18, 2009, at 3:13 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: >> On Monday 18 May 2009 02:52:01 Dan McMahill wrote: >>> KURT PETERS wrote: I was looking at my new pcb directory and noticed both a pcb- newlib and a newlib directory. What's the difference?

Re: gEDA-user: pcb cvs on sourceforge - no longer any ./configure?

2009-05-18 Thread Steven Michalske
We should turn SF CVS. On May 17, 2009, at 6:09 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Run autogen.sh first. > > (and we're not using sf's CVS any more - use git from pcb.gpleda.org) > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seu

Re: gEDA-user: good books about footprint and land patterns

2009-05-18 Thread Steven Michalske
I am all for community symbols, but please leave the GPLv3 out of it. Working in industry, we now have a rule that we should avoid GPLv3 like the plague, and I need to get the companies lawyers involved if I want to consider that software. Rules like that prevent me from using software and

Re: gEDA-user: Parts!

2009-05-14 Thread Steven Michalske
I use boxes of duplicate parts and a faulty memory! On May 14, 2009, at 12:34 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I'm gearing up to populate a bunch of powermeter boards, plus the > sdram board, and got the biggest digikey box I've ever gotten. This > time, it was cost effective to by reels of two of the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb negative layer format

2009-05-04 Thread Steven Michalske
On May 4, 2009, at 1:55 AM, gene glick wrote: > PCBfabexpress states on their faq that they prefer to have inner > gerber > layers in negative format. Is this possible with PCB? > This made sense back in the days where they would apply a positive or negative photo resist and expose it with

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-04 Thread Steven Michalske
What I really want for solder jumpers is the ability to (un)mask them for solder mask, (un)mask paste mask, and metal short options. that is to disable them from production and we know that they are going to be open, put solder mask over them to prevent accidental shorting. to leave open hav

Re: gEDA-user: getting along with git

2009-04-29 Thread Steven Michalske
When you cloned Peters repository you are also getting his stacked git branches. So I stopped getting them. peter uses stacked git, when you track the branches that he uses that on, you get screwed up when he rewrites his history with stacked git. If you are just following peter as ben said

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Wire to board crimps?

2009-04-23 Thread Steven Michalske
They are called a wire ferrule try a quick google, you'll get a lot of vendors. Steve On Apr 23, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > Figured someone here would know... > > I'm looking for some crimp terminals which terminate the end of a > wire, > and allow it to be soldered neatly into

Re: gEDA-user: terminators

2009-04-21 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Bert Timmerman wrote: > Hi DJ, > > On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 23:35 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> Update... >> >> I added serpentines to the short traces, and re-routed the long >> traces >> to go under the sdram chip instead of around it, and got the >> following... Onl

Re: gEDA-user: Standard refdes for a crystal?

2009-04-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Joerg wrote: > John Luciani wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Rob Butts >> wrote: >>> What is the standard refdes for a crystal, I'm blanking? The >>> generic >>> is a U, is this correct? >> >> I use X >> > > Yep, that's quite customary. It is related

Re: gEDA-user: Two pin variable capacitor symbol with 3 pin footprint

2009-04-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:34 -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: >> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:06 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote: >>> >>>> &

Re: gEDA-user: Two pin variable capacitor symbol with 3 pin footprint

2009-04-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:06 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > >> >> - use the 3-pin footprint and connect pin three with a net= attribute >> on the symbol >> > > This idea in not new to me, I tried something similar with an OpAmp > with > m

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mounted circuits in hobby projects

2009-04-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 10, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: >> I tried to desolder a SMD component, a capacitor with solder remover >> wick (copper braid), and it's very hard to do it. > > The class setup is rework tweezers. It's basically a double tipped > solder iron and you can just pick up the par

Re: gEDA-user: FT232R

2009-04-08 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 08 April 2009, Mike Hansen wrote: >> Quick FYI: >> >> >> >> The FTDI USB UARTs have noise immunity issues. They tend to lock >> up after >> running for an hour or so. And worst of all they only reset >> themselves >> when the US

Re: gEDA-user: terminators

2009-04-07 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:48 AM, [1]carzr...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: John Griessen [jg]I think HJ might have meant length of the ramp up or ramp down when he said "edge". I can't see how length of a square wave half cycle translates to

Re: gEDA-user: terminators

2009-04-06 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:03 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> longest clock Vs. shortest data and vice versa. >> >> You want your data eye to be nice and big, the sampling clock right >> in the middle of it. The cleaner the eye the slower your edge rates >> can go. > > So, long story short... I need to red

Re: gEDA-user: EDA revenue news link.. gEDA + gerbv screenshot!

2009-04-06 Thread Steven Michalske
They used it for an article on Mentor graphics too :-P ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: terminators

2009-04-06 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:51 PM, [1]carzr...@optonline.net wrote: tune down your edge rate in the FPGA to make the effective bandwidth of your edges lower. square waves are an infinite series of sine waves, trapezoidal are finite. ( roughly speaking ) 3 inches is a 1/8th

Re: gEDA-user: terminators

2009-04-06 Thread Steven Michalske
2 thoughts, tune down your edge rate in the FPGA to make the effective bandwidth of your edges lower. square waves are an infinite series of sine waves, trapezoidal are finite. ( roughly speaking ) 3 inches is a 1/8th wave antenna for 500MHz, again roughly ( 1GHz ~= 12 inches ~=1 nS at the

Re: gEDA-user: rat width

2009-04-03 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 2, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 18:59 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >>> I am working on a design with a lot of small parts and pcb's default >>> rat width is too wide to see what I'm doing. I don't see a setting >>> for this. Where should I look? >> >> Add th

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mounted circuits in hobby projects

2009-04-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Peter Carlsson wrote: > Approximately how much heat does a circuit stand? All depends on the part, data sheets contain that information. e.g. they might say, hand solder 700°F for 9 seconds max some might specify a rest time. the key is to be quick about the solderi

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mounted circuits in hobby projects

2009-04-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:59 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > DEsoldering, now, that's a different problem. two rules, you have to add solder to desolder ( by hand ) if you don't need the part get out the cutting tools :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@mo

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mounted circuits in hobby projects

2009-04-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:48 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> GOOD tweezers, I mean GOOD. > > Well, I have cheap ($1 I think) pointy tweezers I use. And a few > sharpened toothpicks. good does not imply costly, not does inexpensive imply poor quality. bent tips usually help out. ( designed as bent, not

Re: gEDA-user: Surface mounted circuits in hobby projects

2009-04-02 Thread Steven Michalske
Watch the pros work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSHsLo0cJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzI31gfCjJE&feature=related Boy they make it look easy. It really is with the right tips. get yourself a good soldering iron. I got my Metcal unit off of ebay and saved a bunch on a professional

Re: gEDA-user: the joy and sadness of new boards

2009-04-01 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Darrell Harmon wrote: > FR4 dust was bad, so you may want to wear a mask if you do it this > way. put your shop vac pulling the dust away from the side of the dremel ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http

Re: gEDA-user: the joy and sadness of new boards

2009-04-01 Thread Steven Michalske
Future warning, don't do that to an old carbide tipped blade. The braising holding on the carbide might be a touch brittle, and cause a few teeth to launch. Welcome to the world of toolmaking :-) on a side note, a diamond saw blade probably wouldn't do what you want. They are not designed

Re: gEDA-user: DRC UI mockup

2009-03-29 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 29, 2009, at 1:29 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > + drill too small (5) > + annular ring too small (18) > - copper areas too close > + 5.0 mil line/pin at 12500,7500 > + 4.8 mil line/pin at 11500,8500 > + 5.0 mil line/pin at 10500,3250 > + silk over pads (1) I like this but I suggest a differ

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb GTK HID] Updated patch for filters in filechooser dialog

2009-03-25 Thread Steven Michalske
Bert, just a question about the shell style globs for the filters. you are adding two of the posable capitalizations +gtk_file_filter_add_pattern (pcb_filter, "*.pcb"); +gtk_file_filter_add_pattern (pcb_filter, "*.PCB"); Will gtk's globs use the following syntax? +gtk_file_filter_a

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol style recommendations

2009-03-20 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 19, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > 2009/3/19 Peter TB Brett : >> On Thursday 19 March 2009 21:58:59 Josh Jordan wrote: >>> I prefer to use actual pinouts in my schematics for two reasons: >>> It helps >>> you with chip placement because naturally you will tend to place >>> symbo

Re: gEDA-user: How to fit REFDES on PCB with Hierarchy

2009-03-09 Thread Steven Michalske
Silly american here, but I cant tell if that is a 2 euro coin or not... would you take a picture with a US quarter :-P or tell me the diameter of the coin you used. Hardkrash On Mar 9, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:09:45AM -0400, John Luciani wro

Re: gEDA-user: Thindraw and the HID interface... [WAS: Re: pcb segmentation fault]

2009-03-06 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:12 PM, John Griessen wrote: > Peter C.J. Clifton wrote: > >>> i like the active net concept, point at a net and the rest of the >>> board goes transparent. >>> >>> it allows you to see the nets more easily >> >> Active layer? (I think if you made all but the active net >

Re: gEDA-user: Thindraw and the HID interface... [WAS: Re: pcb segmentation fault]

2009-03-06 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > For GL (which can do opacity quite easily), some kind of (optional) > automatic fading (or just toggling) of surface features like pads > might > be useful, based on the active layer being worked on. i like the active net concept, point at

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