Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 11:48 +0100, Gabriel Paubert wrote: I've not switched on anti-aliasing. I think it is important the geometry has hard edges, and anti-aliasing will just increase memory requirements / reduce rendering speed. (IIRC, it just renders bigger than required, then filters

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: I'm not so convinced applying the terminology anti-aliasing is correct for jaggies on object edges. Its certainly not what I'd call aliasing on a digital oscillocope.. that matches the texture-sampling case. The edges are more a

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
And if I had a nickel for every time I've heard people, even knowledgeable people, incorrectly use the term broadband to mean high-speed Internet connection (when most such connections are, in fact, baseband).. They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:57 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David C. Kerber wrote: And if I had a nickel for every time I've heard people, even knowledgeable people, incorrectly use the term broadband to mean high-speed Internet connection (when most such connections are, in fact, baseband).. They are? DSL certainly

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
And for the past 10-15 years or so, the last mile of most T1 data circuits have been delivered via a form of DSL, and they typically have no voice support either. Not mine. I got all four wires :-) ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL specifically avoids) and, My definition of broadband is multiple communication channels sharing bandwidth on the same medium, which does not, IMO, describe DSL. What is yours? The one from which my remarks were

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:28 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: And for the past 10-15 years or so, the last mile of most T1 data circuits have been delivered via a form of DSL, and they typically have no voice support either. Not mine. I got all four wires :-) On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you do. Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the two-wire one. I have two lightning protectors in

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Daniel Svärd
The one from which my remarks were derived came from googling and reading three or four pages which gave definitions, such as [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband and [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband. It is that baseband uses the frequency range whose

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:02 PM, der Mouse wrote: They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL specifically avoids) and, My definition of broadband is multiple communication channels sharing bandwidth on the same medium, which does not, IMO, describe DSL. What

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)] And for the past 10-15 years or so, the last mile of most T1 data circuits have been delivered via a form of DSL, and they typically have no voice support either. Not mine

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:35 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you do. Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:29 PM To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)] And for the past 10-15 years or so

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Wow, that's pretty unusual! Yup, but then again, I *can't* get regular DSL service here. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Wow, that's pretty unusual! Yup, but then again, I *can't* get regular DSL service here. I had exactly that problem when I lived in Cape Coral, FL...wound up having to get a T-1 at close to $400/mo. Fortunately I was able to defray that

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
[...], while me, having grown up (at least chronologically!) in the 1970s, broadband is a more relaxed way of saying multiple information channels via frequency-division multiplexing on multiple independent carriers. And, doesn't DSL fit that? At the physical layer, at least - the multiple

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
I have a friend who lives 0.5 miles from the CO. Unfortunately, if you *drive* to the CO it's 4 miles or so. The wires go under a river, it seems! He got DSL once by finding someone who knew the wiring layout and was willing to TDR the lines to prove it to management, but something happened

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:59 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I have a friend who lives 0.5 miles from the CO. Unfortunately, if you *drive* to the CO it's 4 miles or so. The wires go under a river, it seems! He got DSL once by finding someone who knew the wiring layout and was willing to TDR the lines to

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:44 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: My last two DSL circuits had no voice capability. Ahh, the difference between ADSL and SDSL. One of my pet peeves is people saying DSL to mean ADSL... Time to plug my Open SDSL Connectivity Project: http://ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG/OpenSDSL/ Hey, I drew

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the two-wire one. I have two lightning protectors in the demarc box,

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Hmm. The fact that you have a smartjack demark at all (do you?) No. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Actually my question is why was it changed at all? My PCB manufacturers had absolutely no problems with the stacked positive/negative mixture of layers in the photoplotter files. Yours didn't, others did. ___ geda-user mailing list

gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 22:13 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 01:11 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Give the works so far a try: http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git clone git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git checkout before_pours origin/before_pours git

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-01-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 22:13 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 01:11 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Give the works so far a try: http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git clone git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git checkout before_pours

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:59 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: without looking at the code, is it feasible without major pain to have GL be a runtime selection? I was thinking I'd split out the HID vtable callbacks into GTK / GL versions, and #ifdef the HID setup. Since the HID vtable can (I think)

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-01-28 Thread Mark
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 09:27:28 pm Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:59 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: Should I expect a speed improvement with GLX or just cool stuff like layer transparency? I suspect that's a feature that won't take much use before I say how did I live

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:53 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Give the works so far a try: http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git clone git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git git checkout before_pours origin/before_pours git checkout -b before_pours origin/before_pours