Hello,
I just realized, that the 'view'-label in the status bar is still
displaying the 'old' boardsize-names.
The appended patch replaces them with 'top' and 'bottom'.
Should I do a separate bug-report for this?
Kind regards,
Felix
Am 11.04.2011 01:42, schrieb DJ Delorie:
I'm pondering a
Mark Rages wrote:
> My netlist enters pcb by way of gsch2pcb, which supplies its own
> default stackup. Can these be kept in sync somehow?
My current work-around is to call pcb without a filename but with
multiple command line options to set the layer stack. After a save
with the desired name,
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:42 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
> useful default stackup. How's this?
>
My netlist enters pcb by way of gsch2pcb, which supplies its own
default stackup. Can these be kept in sync somehow?
Regards,
Mark
mar
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:45:18 +0200
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
> > useful default stackup. How's this?
> >
> > LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
> > LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
> > LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
> >
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:35 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> Now we just need to figure out how to enforce it :-)
>
With a stick!
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> The group numbering - and I don't see any reason why we can't stipulate
> that is the rendering sequence.
I think we decided that a while back. The group order *is* the
stacking order.
Now we just need to figure out how to enforce it :-)
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On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 08:18 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote:
> Peter Clifton writes:
> Is it really the layer order, or the group order that PCB+GL or Ben-mode
> uses?
The group numbering - and I don't see any reason why we can't stipulate
that is the rendering sequence.
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On 04/11/2011 02:11 AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
consider layers with the same
Z coordinate as a "layer group"
OK, that could be used for stackup, and also farther along,
Z is a general axis designator, so would become Z position
in the stackup, so your group number attrib
should be some other na
> Well, I did not really understand that paragraph. Anyeay, fine with me,
> although I don't really see the interest of an interim step.
I.e "none of us have time right now to completely rewrite how layers
work"
This was a fairly quick change which should make the current PCB more
"obviously usa
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:20:11AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
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> > I basically agree, but why stop here and not add a Z coordinate to
> > each layer?
>
> You deleted the answer to that:
>
> > Note that this would be an interim change until we get around to
> > either a new-board-wizard or new-mea
> I basically agree, but why stop here and not add a Z coordinate to
> each layer?
You deleted the answer to that:
> Note that this would be an interim change until we get around to
> either a new-board-wizard or new-means-load-template.
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:42:11PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
> useful default stackup. How's this?
>
> LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
> LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
> LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
> LAYERNAME (4, "signal3"),
> LAYERNAM
> Is it really the layer order, or the group order that PCB+GL or
> Ben-mode uses?
PCB draws in group order, not layer order.
So you can order the drawing layers as you wish, as long as the group
order is set to your stacking order.
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Peter Clifton writes:
> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:42 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
>> useful default stackup. How's this?
>>
>> LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
>> LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
>> LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
>> LAYERNAME (4, "
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:58:51AM +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote:
> 1. Agree! I'd find this much more intuitive and easy to work with. The
> layers option will be a big help...
+1
I also like the ieda of dropping component/solder side, replacing it
with whatever else that suggests "one side" a
> 2. What would go to the outline layer?
The shape of your board, for example.
> The gerber files have outlines for each layer right?
Not by default, no.
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1. Agree! I'd find this much more intuitive and easy to work with. The
layers option will be a big help...
2. What would go to the outline layer? The gerber files have outlines
for each layer right?
~Abhijit
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Pci cards call them A and B sides. But that too is odd. It seems that, like
it or not, top and bottom are the industry standard.
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:24 AM, John Griessen wrote:
> On 04/10/2011 08:26 PM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>> Sometimes the outer layers are called Primary and Secondary.
On 04/10/2011 08:26 PM, Bob Paddock wrote:
Sometimes the outer layers are called Primary and Secondary.
Main and Second are shorter and might convey similar meaning and be more
usable...
JG
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On 04/10/2011 06:42 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
would such a layout be a better default for you?
Fine by me.
JG
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> I concede that Top/Bottom is more common, not necessarily accurate.
We can't just call them "this side" and "that side" :-)
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> 3. Rename outer layers to top/bottom, which seems to be what other
> packages (specifically, eagle and kicad) use. Component/solder
> isn't as obvious with SMT.
Sometimes the outer layers are called Primary and Secondary.
Consider a board of memory chips. Some memories come in mirror image
DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
> useful default stackup. How's this?
>
> LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
> LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
> LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
> LAYERNAME (4, "signal3"),
> LAYERNAME (5, "power"),
> LAYERNAME (6, "bottom
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:42 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
> useful default stackup. How's this?
>
> LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
> LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
> LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
> LAYERNAME (4, "signal3"),
> LAYERNAME (5, "pow
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, "top"),
LAYERNAME (2, "ground"),
LAYERNAME (3, "signal2"),
LAYERNAME (4, "signal3"),
LAYERNAME (5, "power"),
LAYERNAME (6, "bottom"),
LAYERNAME (7, "outline"),
LAYER
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