Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-01

2023-05-09 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
age- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 1:00 PM > To: Robert Sparks ; John Scudder > > Cc: gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis@ietf.org; > last-c...@ietf.org; > l...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-01

2023-05-03 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:18 AM > To: John Scudder ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > > Cc: gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis@ietf.org; > last-c...@ietf.org; > l...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Genart last call review of d

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-01

2023-05-03 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - Thanx for your review - apologies for the delay in responding. Please see inline. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks via Datatracker > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 1:09 PM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis@ietf.org; last-c...@ietf.org; l...@iet

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-te-app-13

2020-06-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Jouni - Just to let you know that V14 of the draft was posted today and it includes all of the corrections you requested. Thanx again for your review. Les > -Original Message- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 8:02 AM > To: Jouni Korhon

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-te-app-13

2020-05-29 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Jouni - Thanx for the review. I have addressed the editorial issues you raised - though I will wait for additional comments from other reviewers before publishing a new version. Les > -Original Message- > From: Jouni Korhonen via Datatracker > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:11 AM >

Re: [Gen-art] [Lsr] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-mpls-elc-13

2020-05-14 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Elwyn’s comment was: I was trying to understand why a router that satisfies the previous condition so that it is legitimate for it to announce ELC with any IP address prefix might wish to only announce it with some prefixes and not others. The answer to that is clearly stated in the draft (emph

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5306bis-04

2019-08-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Russ - Thanx for the careful review. I have uploaded V5 of the draft which addresses your comments subject to my responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: Russ Housley via Datatracker > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 2:38 PM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc530

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-23

2019-04-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Erik - Thanx for the detailed review. I have published V24 of the draft which addresses all of your comments (and a few pending AD review comments from Alvaro). Some exceptions noted below. > -Original Message- > From: Erik Kline via Datatracker > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 7:20 PM

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-15

2018-12-13 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Erik - Thanx for the review. Responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: Erik Kline > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:30 PM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: i...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp@ietf.org > Subject: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-idr-te-pm

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc7810bis-03

2018-12-09 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Paul - Thanx for the careful review and the kind words. Les > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 12:06 PM > To: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc7810bis@ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lsr-is

Re: [Gen-art] [spring] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-ldp-interop-11

2018-05-14 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
ou. Les > -Original Message- > From: Joel Halpern Direct > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 1:16 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Joel Halpern > ; gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-ldp-interop@ietf.org; > spr...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org >

Re: [Gen-art] [spring] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-ldp-interop-11

2018-05-14 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Joel - I am not an author of this draft - but I am an author on the referenced IS-IS draft - which I assume is one of the drafts mentioned in your comment: > Server). Looking at the relevant routing protocol document, they point to > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-confli

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat Call review of draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-06

2018-02-12 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Meral - Thanx for the review. Some of your comments have already been addressed in the latest version (07) published a few days ago. Responses inline. From: Meral Shirazipour [mailto:meral.shirazip...@ericsson.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:02 PM To: draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions@

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

2018-01-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
pick a name which reflects how the link is to be used while it is still up. Les From: Pushpasis Sarkar [mailto:pushpasis.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 9:22 AM To: Bruno Decraene Cc: Shraddha Hegde ; Acee Lindem (acee) ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

2018-01-05 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
problems may exist. It is a mistake to assume that this mechanism is always intended to be used as a precursor to link shutdown. Les From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 8:47 AM To: Shraddha Hegde ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel Halpern ; gen-art

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

2018-01-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Ketan – “maintenance” I could live with. “GIR” seems to not be generic enough. Les From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:09 PM To: Acee Lindem (acee) ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Joel Halpern ; gen-art@ietf.org Cc: o...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ospf

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

2018-01-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Acee - From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:44 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Joel Halpern ; gen-art@ietf.org Cc: o...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload@ietf.org Subject: Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11 Hi Les

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

2018-01-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
> >Minor issues: > >I understand the WG likes using the term "overload" for a link > >being taken > >out of service. I think people will learn what we mean. I do wish > >we had > >not chosen to misuse the words in this fashion. This is much more a > >graceful-link-close ind

Re: [Gen-art] [OSPF] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-19

2017-10-12 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
In regards to > > 4. Section 3.3: > > > > 'The originating router MUST NOT advertise overlapping ranges.' > > > > How are conflicts resolved at receiver? > > SRLB sub-TLV is not used by routers running ISIS. The advertisement is only > there for the benefit of external entities such as controller

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-mi-bis-02

2017-04-13 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
anges relative to RFC 6822 are not desirable." Inline. > -Original Message- > From: Orit Levin [mailto:or...@microsoft.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:59 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-mi-bis@tools.ietf.o

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04

2017-04-10 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
onday, April 10, 2017 3:07 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Alvaro Retana (aretana); Robert Sparks; gen- > a...@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04 > > Hi R

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-mi-bis-02

2017-04-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Orit - Thanx for the review. Responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: Orit Levin [mailto:or...@microsoft.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:27 PM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-mi-bis@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04

2017-04-07 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
t: Friday, April 07, 2017 2:45 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Robert Sparks; gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04 > > On 4/7/17, 5:30 PM, "Le

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04

2017-04-07 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - > -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjspa...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 2:18 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Genart l

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04

2017-04-07 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - Thanx for the review. Reply inline. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjspa...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 1:25 PM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org > Subject: Genart last call rev

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
John - From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 2:04 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Acee Lindem (acee); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg Mirsky Cc: Robert Sparks; m...@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Eric - From: Eric Gray [mailto:eric.g...@ericsson.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:32 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Uma Chunduri; John E Drake; Acee Lindem (acee); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg Mirsky Cc: m...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis-cha...@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
John - From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:19 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Acee Lindem (acee); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg Mirsky Cc: Robert Sparks; m...@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
t. I am just asking for folks to pause and think about this a bit more from an architectural perspective. Les From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:20 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Acee Lindem (acee); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg Mirsky Cc: Robert S

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
hat RFC 6823 stipulates that a separate instance of the protocol (a la RFC 6822) be used for such cases. Les From: Uma Chunduri [mailto:uma.chund...@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:41 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); John E Drake; Acee Lindem (acee); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
); Alexander Vainshtein; Greg Mirsky; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Robert Sparks; m...@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; isis-cha...@ietf.org; Abhay Roy (akr) Subject: RE: [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12 Acee, Relying on an

Re: [Gen-art] [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12

2017-01-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
: Robert Sparks; m...@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); isis-cha...@ietf.org; Abhay Roy (akr) Subject: Re: [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-12 Hi Acee, the draft defines optional functionality. If an operator

Re: [Gen-art] IETF Last Call Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-isis-rfc4971bis-01

2016-08-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Dale - Attached please find an updated version and diffs from previous. Please let me know if this adequately addresses your comments. Les > -Original Message- > From: Dale R. Worley [mailto:wor...@ariadne.com] > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 8:26 AM > To: Les Ginsbe

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-isis-remaining-lifetime-02

2016-08-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
nt: Monday, August 08, 2016 10:28 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-remaining-lifetime@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-isis-remaining-lifetime-02 Hi, >Thanx for your review. > >ISO 10589 is the base specification for IS-IS and there i

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-isis-remaining-lifetime-02

2016-08-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Christer - Thanx for your review. ISO 10589 is the base specification for IS-IS and there is a reference to it in the document. This is where you will find details about Link State PDUs. I would be reluctant to include any sort of summary description of an LSP in this document out of fear that

Re: [Gen-art] IETF Last Call Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-isis-rfc4971bis-01

2016-08-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Dale - Thanx for your detailed review. I have elected to copy the WG on my reply as you also sent a copy of your review to the WG. Overall, while I either agree with or have no objection to many of your comments, most of them could be applied to RFC 4971 itself. When generating the bis version

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes-03

2016-01-03 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 12:49 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes@ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes-03 > > Hi Les, > > T

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes-03

2016-01-03 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Paul - > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:31 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes@ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: Gen-ART Last Call re

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes-03

2015-12-30 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Paul - Thanx for the review. Responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:18 AM > To: draft-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes@ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of dra

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art LC review: draft-ietf-isis-route-preference-02

2015-11-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Jari - Thanx for the comments. Inline. > -Original Message- > From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.ar...@piuha.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:58 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: Robert Sparks; General Area Review Team; draft-ietf-isis-route- > preferen

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art LC review: draft-ietf-isis-route-preference-02

2015-10-27 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - Thanx for the review. Responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjspa...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:14 PM > To: General Area Review Team; draft-ietf-isis-route-preference@ietf.org; > i...@ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org > Subject:

Re: [Gen-art] [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00

2014-07-20 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - > -Original Message- > From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjspa...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:14 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoi...@tools.ietf.org; > isis...@ietf.org; General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg]

Re: [Gen-art] [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00

2014-07-20 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert - > -Original Message- > From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sparks > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:27 AM > To: draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoi...@tools.ietf.org; isis...@ietf.org; General > Area Review Team > Subject: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ie

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-fs-lsp-01

2014-06-02 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Meral - Thanx for your review. Responses inline. From: Meral Shirazipour [mailto:meral.shirazip...@ericsson.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 5:46 PM To: draft-ietf-isis-fs-lsp@tools.ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-isis-fs-lsp-01 I am the assigned Ge

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-isis-rfc1142-to-historic-00

2013-12-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Dan - Thanx for the review. I have no objection to your suggestion. I would hope this change can be done by the RFC Editor. Les > -Original Message- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:droma...@avaya.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:35 AM > To: gen-art@ietf.org > Cc: draft

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-04

2011-03-15 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:b...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:26 PM > To: draft-ietf-isis-genapp@tools.ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team; The IETF > Subject: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-04 > > I am the assigned Gen-

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-03.txt

2010-10-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
at was the intent of "Specification Required" - but your comments suggest otherwise. I really wish RFC 5226 addressed this more robustly... Les > -Original Message- > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:b...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:55 AM > To: Les

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-03.txt

2010-10-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Ben - > -Original Message- > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:b...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:10 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: draft-ietf-isis-genapp@tools.ietf.org; General Area Review > Team; The IETF > Subject: Re: Gen-ART LC/Telechat

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-03.txt

2010-10-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Ben - Thanx for the review. Inline. > -Original Message- > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:b...@nostrum.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:06 PM > To: draft-ietf-isis-genapp@tools.ietf.org; General Area Review Team > Cc: The IETF > Subject: Gen-ART LC/Telechat Review of draft-ietf-i

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-03.txt

2008-10-27 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Brian - Thanx for the review - I will work with Danny to get the editorial issues corrected. Some replies to your non-editorial questions/issues: Do you want the IESG to also reclassify RFC3786 as Historic? If so, I suggest saying this explicitly in the Introduction. LES: I would think obsolete

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-isis-rfc3847bis-00.txt

2008-07-01 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
dards - this document being one of them. Les > -Original Message- > From: Eric Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:13 PM > To: Mike Shand (mshand); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: gen-art@ietf.org; Ross Callon > Subject: Gen-ART Review of draft-