Re: [Gendergap] Help us fill the Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania!

and if only a few object they can stay out of camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is done at a lot of different events. On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 7/13/201

Re: [Gendergap] Lightbreather arbitration case

nWM Seriously, does anyone think ArbCom's gallant protection of the dude, while site-banning the woman at whose expense he was having his fun on those porn sites, will help women's participation? On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wr

Re: [Gendergap] Help us fill the Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania!

ions. It may be they are OK if a narrator says their words and their face is pixellated, or perhaps they need their bit replaced by a shot of someone reacting to their words and the narrator saying "a participant gave a personal example of harassment" On 14 July 2015 at 13:40, Carol

Re: [Gendergap] Lightbreather arbitration case

I'm not sure what "some of the seemingly most female-unfriendly parts of the Internet" might be so Ellie would have to be more specific. But in my experience writing in a variety of political and economic and history-related articles on Wikipedia, it's all about "male intellectual territory" w

Re: [Gendergap] Research: men who harass women online

I saw the "loser" spin on some TV report as well. I've definitely found the guys who gave me the most grief were psychologically disturbed. (Of course I consider patriarchal dominance behavior the main psychological disturbance of the human race.) This often is combined with some grievance whe

[Gendergap] Listing all projects on gender gap page

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap#Participate I was starting to get confused about the multiplicity of links lately, some of which are a bit confusing. I don't have the energy to figure it all out and update https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap#Participate at the moment. Desc

[Gendergap] Inspiring pre-workshop video?

Which really is about the limitations that society (patriarchy) tries to impose on women and girls saying NO! Good one to play at beginning of (or encourage people to watch before) workshops or whatever... The best that commercial advertising can be... (even better than buy the world a coke :

[Gendergap] Fwd: Announcing the shutdown of the Ada Initiative

They did great work. Assumedly more info on how long the website will be up and how to download materials will be forthcoming. Forwarded Message Subject:Announcing the shutdown of the Ada Initiative Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:48:23 -0400 (EDT) From: The Ada Initiat

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Announcing the shutdown of the Ada Initiative

Yes, they'll be up. Yeah! On 4 August 2015 at 10:29, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: They did great work. Assumedly more info on how long the website will be up and how to download materials will be forthcoming. Forwarded Message -

[Gendergap] Signpost article on "English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics..." etc...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-19/Op-ed Op-ed WP:THREATENING2MEN: The English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics and the hegemony of the asshole consensus By Bryce Peake Check it out... ___ Gendergap mailing li

[Gendergap] Wikiconference...Re: Signpost article on "English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics..." etc...

... But will suggest to organizers privately :-) On 8/21/2015 12:17 AM, J Hayes wrote: clearly he needs an invite to wikiconference USA maybe a paper presentation http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Category:Submissions/2015 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: [Publicpolicy] Introducing the public policy site

Of course, the problem is that there are so many paid writer/activists, often sock puppets, who work daily to promote certain agendas and tarnish the reputations of those who agree with those agendas. I found this writing about the Israel-Palestine conflict, some war/peace issues and economic

[Gendergap] "Harvard students edit Wikipedia in effort to ‘dismantle the patriarchy’ "

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/24150/ "Meanwhile, these college feminist Wikipedia attacks have become something of a regular thing: (Conservative woman author lists "examples")" We'll see if they post my reply... ;-) ___ Gendergap mailing list G

[Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

Because of an offline discussion about the 1000 odd death threats I got directly through the Wikimedia Foundation email system and my failure to remember personally contacting them (as opposed to admins) about it, I decided to see if the Harassment article mentioned that option. I did a little

Re: [Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

about suicide threats. Did you mean to link to something else? On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: Because of an offline discussion about the 1000 odd death threats I got directly through the Wikimedia Foundation em

Re: [Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

I'll be happy to see a lot of the information and reasoning explained in the harassment document, including first encouraging people to contact an administrator. (Identifying administrators who are experienced in the topic would help too.) Reasons one might not immediately contact police - unl

Re: [Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

On 9/27/2015 1:49 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: anne, thank you so much, for the first time i think i understand the problem. "rot in hell" is a very good example of anger. anger is something common on wikipedia, anger management is something surprisingly ignored. Just in case people don't understa

Re: [Gendergap] WP:Harassment finally links to solution for threats!

Once again this is an area which needs research and numbers, starting with looking at all the complaints and even mentions of harassment at WP:ANI and WP:Arbitration for say the last 5 years. If I wasn't busy catching up on my own projects, I'd help any of the researchers who have come by here

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

These articles do look highly exaggerated. And, of course, for some guys saying they are afraid of being accused of harassment is just a new excuse for cutting women out of the loop. However, there is a real problem of people being overly sensitized to the issue due to over-regulation. This i

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

The relevance is that some wikipedia editors would like to shut us all up about harassment and civility and have made or will increase making these kinds of arguments... Already made: "I'm a serious contributor with 100 contributions a day and I shouldn't have to put up with petty nonsense abo

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

On 10/4/2015 5:59 AM, Robert Williams wrote: Well, what I'd like to say is that some of these arguments do make sense. While men shouldn't get over-sensitive over perceived "harassment" of them, neither should women just whine about harassment.--Eat me, I'm an azuki The problem is is the doub

Re: [Gendergap] Meeting at the Wikiconference?

Because of a vacation and wedding I'll only be able to make Sunday, assuming not too tired. Plus the schedule pretty empty that day except for art and feminism. Thought there ARE more spaces for meetings then and maybe Sunday AM in one of the "Unconference sessions" or other open spaces would

Re: [Gendergap] New member

Note, missed your first message so got wrong impression from what looked alike a comment "Eat me, I'm an azuki". But online people often miss part of messages or misunderstand intentions... Of course, you now feel a bit what it's like for someone to misinterpret what you write because of you

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

On 10/5/2015 10:11 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: what do you think about anger management in this context, what i suggested here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2015-September/005946.html ? or you think this is completely off ? rupert Anger management is always a good idea. As lon

Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

On 10/5/2015 11:56 PM, Risker wrote: On 5 October 2015 at 23:30, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 10/5/2015 10:11 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: what do you think about anger management in this context, what i suggested here:

Re: [Gendergap] address the source of anger

On 10/6/2015 9:32 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: carol rightly pointed out to not mix mail threads, so let me create a dedicated thread. do you think there is a possibility to address the source of anger, and dealing with anger in a better way we do now? see for some initial reasoning below. my hypoth

Re: [Gendergap] Reminder on Moderation...Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

On 10/6/2015 4:16 AM, Hannah Penntreth wrote: I didn't respond because responding to misogyny like "Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work" is pointless. Don't wrestle the pig, you just get muddy and the pig likes it. Ogress Unfortunately, I was more interested in compa

Re: [Gendergap] Video Q&A discussing Arbcom and gender/orientation harassment cases

What we really need is trained mediators who have admin powers to sanction those who refuse to engage in mediation or who refuse to change their wicked ways. And since there job is enhancing civility on Wikipedia, which is one of the goals of the foundation, maybe foundation could figure out a

[Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/10/how-wikipedia-is-hostile-to-women/411619/ Goes into lots of details... ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, ple

Re: [Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

I confess I had too much fun sparring with them yesterday, but had enough and don't feel like responding to last half dozen responses to myself, or those to lots of others who were sympathetic to the views of so many women on Wikipedia. The "arguments" are so much like the harassment we got on

Re: [Gendergap] What is proscription vs. Foundation hiring mediators etc.... Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile toWomen"

It seems like every time I ask this question I get vague answers regarding "legal issues" "liability" "can't determine content" "community backlash" etc. Yet under https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use it looks like there is more than enough room for the Foundation to propose and ma

Re: [Gendergap] What is proscription vs. Foundation hiring mediators etc.... Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile toWomen"

s admin/mediator/arbitrator. I know of some billionaires fed up with certain vicious POV pushing on Wikipedia who might be talked into it by the right entrepreneurs. Too bad I clam up when rich people are in the vicinity... Must overcome that hangup!! ;-) CM On 22 October 2015 at 19:08, C

[Gendergap] Men’s rights activists think a “hateful” feminist conspiracy is ruining Wikipedia

I don't remember seeing this one posted before and it's not in my saved emails. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/04/mens-rights-activists-think-a-hateful-feminist-conspiracy-is-ruining-wikipedia/ Funny to find this on first anniversary of day I was banned. Gee, shou

[Gendergap] Telegraph: happy birthday sexist wikipedia

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/happy-birthday-sexist-wikipedia-why-do-men-still-control-our-his/ Here we go again... ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, pleas

[Gendergap] Latest WMF brouhahas relevant to gender gap??

Wondering if there is any particular relevance to the gender gap issue in the removal of one board member and protests against the new one? Or just a general "editor trust" issue, which makes many editors dis-trust any "close the gap" programs/initiatives by WMF?? (Or at least gives them an *ex

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

I immediately searched for "double standard" and who but GuerrillaWarfare mentioned it. The arbitrator who suddenly decided "YES, CarolMooredc" should get kicked off Wikipedia. That after the other arbitrators already had voted to kicked me off off and I THEN complained that a gang of foulmouth

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

I agree that is innocent enough. Both men and women refer to cute asses, and not just on humans! :-) On 2/21/2016 7:58 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: Compare the reaction that Keilana's Op-ed got with the reaction that the Signpost artic

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

On 2/24/2016 12:02 AM, Rob wrote: Until now, I did not realize how many people saw The Signpost not as an edgy outsider but as a Wikimedia institution and our newspaper of record, and feel that it has a responsibility to act more in the manner of The New York Times than The Village Voice. I don'

[Gendergap] 2 Rachel Feinsteins confused

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Rachel_Feinstein Several people have linked comedy-related articles to the sculptor/fashionista Rachel Feinstein article. I created it at a edit-a-thon a few years back. The correct article link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Feins

Re: [Gendergap] 2 Rachel Feinsteins confused

Oh, duh, FYI, I'm banned from editing or I'd do it myself. If anyone needs a quicky project to end confusion on wikipedia on which woman is which. Thus the "thanks" :-) CM On 3/3/2016 9:54 AM, Carol Moore dc wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksH

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 62, Issue 1

Putting it in The Google I got this mirror site. I guess the actual list is not searchable. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.gendergap/6229 On 3/2/2016 4:58 PM, Natacha Rault wrote: I encourage people to monitor discussions on meta about the qualifications for a ED, and comment

Re: [Gendergap] 2 Rachel Feinsteins confused

THANKS!! CM On 3/3/2016 8:56 PM, Robert Fernandez wrote: I think I fixed most of the links. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote: Oh, duh, FYI, I'm banned from editing or I'd do it myself. If anyone needs a quicky project to end confusion on wikipedia on which woma

Re: [Gendergap] 2 Rachel Feinsteins confused

separate disambiguation page is not needed, but both articles should have a pointer to the other at the top. For the naming guideline see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28people%29#Disambiguating On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor..

[Gendergap] Intnl Womens Days articles about sexism in Wikipedia

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/women-erased-from-history-on-wikipedia/7225556 http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_29600263/cu-boulder-students-combat-wikipedia-sexism-edit-thon This must have been widely reprinted cause I got several different versions of it in my google alert for "wiki

Re: [Gendergap] Intnl Womens Days articles about sexism in Wikipedia

tarf wrote: Wikimedia blog: "The new alchemy: turning online harassment into Wikipedia articles on women scientists" by Ed Erhart http://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/03/08/alchemy-turning-harassment-into-women-scientists/ On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...

Re: [Gendergap] Systematic tagging for deletion of articles created at Art And Feminism editathon

Someone should write a letter to the editor of the those 5 or 6 publications that came in my google alerts on the topic of the edit a thon. (Search news google to find them.) And of course deal with the few legtimate complaints and the trolls with nonsense complaints. On 3/12/2016 10:17 AM, N

[Gendergap] Partisan AfD on notable woman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kate_Smurthwaite It's probably going to survive unless a lot of trolls join in, but FYI. Here's what was recently done to her: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3517874/Feminist-comedian-s-charity-gig-sabotaged-opponents-booked

[Gendergap] Pushing back against sexism, this is a new era for women online

http://techcrunch.com/2016/04/30/digital-and-visible-this-is-a-new-era-for-women-online/ One mention of Wikipedia. But overall a positive article. Hope she's not being too optimistic. Using twitter more, I've found replying to guys who insult you in a human and humorous way, with just enough

Re: [Gendergap] Cross-dressing and masculinity

The real problem is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role#Gender_stereotypes Of course "gender" stereotype is just a confusing word for sex stereotype. (After all, would we want to call this the "sex gap" group??) I mean should a person who wants NO stereotype be forced to choose from on

Re: [Gendergap] Study: men who receive harassment training “significantly less likely” to recognize harassment

On 5/5/2016 2:56 PM, danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Anecdotally, some people actually have the idea that sexual harassment is something that is only legally actionable when men do it to women (which further adds heteronormativity as an implicit bias). Yet as of 2013 17.6% of the sexual-harassm

Re: [Gendergap] Defining harassment: the first empirical investigation into the nature of creepiness

dare i say it... so one can see why a lot of women (and their male relatives) are nervous about any guy who SAYS he's really a woman getting into the bathrooms, fitting rooms, lock rooms, showers, shelters and prisons with us... ALSO, on another note, I'm putting wikipedia links on a small pro

Re: [Gendergap] Defining harassment: the first empirical investigation into the nature of creepiness

ies. On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: dare i say it... so one can see why a lot of women (and their male relatives) are nervous about any guy who SAYS he's really a woman getting into the bathrooms, fitting rooms, lock r

Re: [Gendergap] Defining harassment: the first empirical investigation into the nature of creepiness

I'd largely agree, but there are some men who you really can't tell if they are clueless to their bad behavior (which some are) or just pretending to be (which others are), even when you are with them in person. On 5/12/2016 9:51 PM, JJ Marr wrote: We shouldn't conflate "creepy" and "harassmen

[Gendergap] Harvard Business School: "Why Do So Few Women Edit Wikipedia?"

Results not very surprising... Why Do So Few Women Edit Wikipedia? https://hbr.org/2016/06/why-do-so-few-women-edit-wikipedia review at: http://www.attn.com/stories/8908/study-shows-gender-gap-on-wikipedia ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wi

[Gendergap] Ruth Barrett bio

It looks like her bio is being challenged just as the book she edited is starting to get reliable source attention. In case anyone wants to work on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Barrett The book is "Female Erasure: What You Need To Know About Gender Politics’, War On Woman, the Femal

Re: [Gendergap] Ruth Barrett bio

gh... On 6/26/2016 9:45 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote: The article as written contains no assertions, plausible or otherwise, of notability. It reeks with redlinks and self-published "sources". On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wro

Re: [Gendergap] DARVO and harassment tactics

Where's the thumbs up button? :-) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

[Gendergap] The largest Wikipedia gathering in South Asia kicks off

Yay!! https://opensource.com/life/16/8/wikipedia-conference-india-2016 The largest Wikipedia gathering in South Asia kicks off "As compared to the last WikiConference India, this conference has more thematic focus, especially on challenges like the gender bias on Wikipedia, and emerging projec

[Gendergap] Inside Higher Ed: "The Woes of Wikipedia"

https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/library-babel-fish/woes-wikipedia Good 8/23/16 summary of issues and past problems. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please v

Re: [Gendergap] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Wikipedia

ha ha... just found out we can see at least beginning of Britannica entries including this one... Wonder if it has a section on sexism (aka "gender gap" because who wants to go around saying "sex gap"? :-) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@list

[Gendergap] Needed fixes on women-related issues

I'm obviously not pro-clinton but it does annoy me to see that in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy there is no reference for the fact that Bush admin. deleted 22 million emails on a private server. (End of first paragraph and other details doubtless m

Re: [Gendergap] Needed fixes on women-related issues

OK, being off wikipedia, I'm getting sloppy... here's a relevant link to this discussion, so I don't get spanked... On 10/31/2016 11:05 AM, Carol Moore dc wrote: (And let's not start on the double standards vs. Clinton. I just found out 60 US employees were killed in att

[Gendergap] Need "Toxic masculinity" article

It's turned into a real thing with lots of good refs. There are lots of RS articles. And search Duke Universities program and you'll find lots more. In between all the men's rights articles denouncing such a program. Obviously it will take a brave soul to do it. And lots of research to tra

Re: [Gendergap] They want to delete First Ladies now?

These guys don't even bother to do a little info search to see if the person might have lots of interesting RS info about them. On 1/6/2017 9:52 AM, Johanna-Hypatia Cybeleia wrote: It was a bit of a shock to see on Nell Arthur 's page an imminent threa

Re: [Gendergap] They want to delete First Ladies now?

Way back when there was a study, probably up on the Wikimedia gender gap page, indicating it was a bigger problem on sex and gender related articles. On 1/6/2017 11:53 AM, Jonathan Cardy wrote: Deletionism is a longstanding problem on Wikipedia, I don't know if there is a gender skew to the tar

Re: [Gendergap] In memory of User:Danveg

On 1/9/2017 2:32 PM, Pax Ahimsa Gethen wrote: Thanks! I've been on a roll creating articles from the Women in Red list, but have found that some on the list are not actually women (cis or trans), but non-binary or trans men. That's a separate topic for discussion, but others are welcome to weigh

Re: [Gendergap] Good news from EN Wikipedia

An interesting related question is: How many admins are approved whose sex is totally unknown?? Similarly desysopped On 1/11/2017 1:55 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Ealdgyth has just set a new record for an unopposed request for adminship. She had 250 supports and no opposes, breaking Sarah Stie

[Gendergap] 100 Wikidays challenge for women's article

Cool project! 100 new articles about women! This group is for people who are taking the #100wikidays personal challenge. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/100wikidays for details. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1426807560950747/permalink/1657700921194742/ __

[Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/craigslist-founder-donates-500k-to-curb-wikipedia-trolls-1.3259781 CM ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lis

[Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/craigslist-founder-donates-500k-to-curb-wikipedia-trolls-1.3259781 Wow! When I think of the 2 plus hrs a week x 385 odd weeks of hours I spent dealing with guys who just didn't like the idea that a "female" dared to edit - or worse, change their edit - I still tea

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls

I'd much rather see the smaller part of the money spent on more software development, and the majority spent setting up support services that handle alleged harassment in a more mature way, even if the people who are doing the real support work end up being us volunteers. Fae On 27 January 2017

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls

2:43 PM, "Carol Moore dc" mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote: ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

Having had a thousand nasty and threatening messages from someone who used about 40 different emails, I still wouldn't like moderation. Is there a way to retroactively check emails? I guess the headers are it, and I always sent those (they were all yahoo mail). On 2/12/2017 2:25 PM, Risker wro

[Gendergap] "WikiTribune" and gender gap

Just found out about this. I wonder if they'll break down and hire at least 1/2 professional FEMALE journalists. I hope that the most biased Wikipedia male trolls will not be among the "community members". New project for whatever Gender Gap projects in Wikimedia are most effective. (Anyone

Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

Given Mother's Day coming up, note that Julia Ward Howe's "Mother's Day Proclamation" poem does have an article. So there is some good news! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day_Proclamation ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia

Re: [Gendergap] "WikiTribune" and gender gap

e more professional than guys who fly through on the fact they're good old boys. -Original Message- From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Carol Moore dc Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 6:05 PM To: Wikimedia Gender Gap email list Subject: [Gend

Re: [Gendergap] outreach and trianing resources...was... On Women's History Month

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Karen Sue Rolph > wrote: I would make a go of this in the San Francisco Bay Area if we could get some traction going. I'll check in with a couple groups I know of, and see where they stand. Do we have an outreach tool

Re: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap

On 2/2/2012 3:03 AM, Caroline Becker wrote: Don't be depress Sarah if female participation remains low. Even if Wikipedia was a perfect place without any bias, it would still be a project from the "real world" were lot of forces prevent women from editing : lower confidence in themselves, less

Re: [Gendergap] Outreach email...Women's History Month action plan wiki

On 2/4/2012 4:16 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: If you'd like to participate or develop an event, please visit the on English Wikipedia (translations encouraged!) Women's History Month page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiWomen%27s_History_Month At least once a week I feel l guilty for nev

Re: [Gendergap] List of lists of women

On 2/11/2012 12:35 PM, Risker wrote: I do think the inclusion of the word "notable" is important here. The lists aren't just of women, they're of women who are notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article - which is a pretty low bar, as anyone who's ever tried to get some mess dele

[Gendergap] Help beef up Workshop_for_Women_in_Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop_for_Women_in_Wikipedia After communicating with the originators of the page, I restructured it to be the Womens/Gender Gap part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop (which is also a great self-teaching resources with links to other r

[Gendergap] Anyone submitting to Wikimania 2012?

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions I assume Sue Gardner will be organizing something. Just a reminder if people have their own ideas as well. Cm in Dc ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.o

[Gendergap] Vote for your favorite "women" oriented wikimania panel

https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=women&button=&title=Special%3ASearch This search shows which ones are about women. You can sign up to approve at the bottom. (You should be able to sign in with your wikipedia user name.) The deadline for submissions is Sunday, March 18 at

[Gendergap] Better links for Gender at Wikimania and other stuff of interest

More workshops for women and everyone else can be found through either the complete list here https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_submissions (includes subcategories by topic and type) Also of interest to women in general: Search: Newbie in list above and see if you like

Re: [Gendergap] Thoughts on training and gender and training generally

I was wondering if there is a web page I can link to with your comments for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Workshop_for_Women I can link to the newsletter but it only mentions the workshop was all women. Thanks. PS Love the Roo and other photos! On 4/4/2012 10:58 AM, Sarah Stierch wr

Re: [Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

On 4/7/2012 10:35 AM, Bob Sponge wrote: welcome to censorpedia we fight probalbly sexism with our own middle-age-view on the world and oppress any non appreciated right for free expression than we told the critics idiots The photo is obviously more about a sexy and stimulating phyical stance

Re: [Gendergap] Article "Cumshot" in English and German Wikipedia

NO need to censor it. Just do a second one with bushier eyebrows and a goatee and put that up instead :-) On 4/27/2012 1:50 PM, Béria Lima wrote: Katrin, I hate to be captain obvious here, but: Do you know that "cun shot" is a porn related term right? Only used in Porn related articles (see re

Re: [Gendergap] Article "Cumshot" in English and German Wikipedia

On 4/27/2012 3:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I could have a go again, Carol. >:) Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles. Andreas So if I was too implicit in my statement. As Andreas surmised, I meant re-do that photo to make it male on male. Or do a second one that's male on male. Go

[Gendergap] sounds like a fun project... Re: Article "Cumshot" in English and German Wikipedia

On 5/2/2012 3:40 AM, Caroline Becker wrote: Working harder to have awesome pictures of artworks with naked men ? Caroline I did the bio of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Feinstein_%28sculptor%29 as part of a GLAM event. Her husband does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Currin does a

Re: [Gendergap] Article "Cumshot" in English and German Wikipedia

On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage... To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots people have been complaining about. I don't think w

[Gendergap] Porn Bio RfC

For those who enjoy debating various angles of this topic. Controlling myself personally... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_%28people%29#rfc_3EDB4AE ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedi

[Gendergap] Permanently banning "War on Women" from Wikipedia

This article has problems I've mention on the talk page and WP:Wikiproject feminism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women It's up for second deletion and proposals it be permanently banned. FYI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/War_on_Women_%282nd_nomination%29

Re: [Gendergap] civility/behavioral standards

On 5/6/2012 5:03 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote: ... Given this, I'm going to change how the moderation of this list is handled a little bit moving forward. Previously, there has been no hands-on moderation of this list. From now on, there will potentially be some. It won't be draconian - and really,

Re: [Gendergap] Article for deletion Fanny Imlay

On 5/15/2012 12:47 PM, Nathan wrote: It was a "tactical" deletion request. I find that to be a pretty silly maneuver, personally, particularly as the nominators never do a very good job as devil's advocate. If jbmurray didn't think the article should be deleted, he should not have wasted his ow

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

On 6/2/2012 12:15 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: I think the point is taken. I really have no desire to think about these things, especially every time I read this mailing list these days. -Sarah Really. My idea is, let the foundation use it's best judgement. I'm sure it will err on the "liberal

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

On 6/3/2012 3:29 AM, Michelle Gallaway wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Andreas Kolbe > wrote: We are not talking about filtering standard sex education images as you might find in a school book. We are talking about images or videos of women (...)

Re: [Gendergap] Kill thread dead - Re: Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

Sounds good... go for it... On 6/3/2012 12:50 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Hi everyone, I think we're on the "Beating a dead horse" again situation with this subject.[1] We will be going in circles about it - most of us seem to not care as much as others, and no one seems to be taking any direct

Re: [Gendergap] So what have you been working on lately article wise as a woman or about women?

One thing people can do is get on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Article_alerts List for articles being deleted, RfC'd etc. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Gendergap] Holly Graf

On 6/18/2012 9:29 AM, Nathan wrote: Seems like another 1E candidate. The over-emphasis on the controversy at the end of her career can be addressed by wiping out most of the detail, or by removing the article entirely (since the notability argument is somewhat fragile, and all the references ab

Re: [Gendergap] Surplus women and World War I

One comment on your draft, is that the langugage makes it a bit unclear for the average reader if/that the imbalance in England was because the males left the country and/or were killed in overseas wars. It's implied but not sufficiently explicit so some people might get confused. Also, the t

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