Re: [brlug-general] Geek Feast/Get Together - Chimes!

2009-02-25 Thread Brad Bendily
i'm out, i have company for a few nights. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Karthik Poobal wrote: > I am in for tomorrow. > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > kart...@poobal.net > kart...@la.gov > 225-910-6126 > skype: poobal > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:38 PM,

Re: [brlug-general] Geek Feast/Get Together - Chimes!

2009-02-25 Thread Karthik Poobal
I am in for tomorrow. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents kart...@poobal.net kart...@la.gov 225-910-6126 skype: poobal On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:38 PM, CM Banker wrote: > Final Count > > On 2/24/09, Alvaro Zuniga wrote: >> Guys, >> Thursday works good for me! 7:30? I ju

Re: [brlug-general] Geek Feast/Get Together - Chimes!

2009-02-25 Thread CM Banker
Final Count On 2/24/09, Alvaro Zuniga wrote: > Guys, > Thursday works good for me! 7:30? I just called and they informed me we can > only reserve the wine cellar room. If we want to sit in the dinning area we > would need at least half the party present. So, we will probably need some > volun

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Tim Fournet
Yes, MS will contribute "Marketing Funds" back to you when you complete certain requirements, like offering machines only with options for Windows. The bigger you are, the more you get, so you can't really blame the Dells of the world for passing them up. In the end, it ends up costing the end u

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Karthik Poobal
I think the subsidies that Tim talks about is if the manufacturer offers only windows. I think the cost of windows goes up if they offer OSS options. The last time I bought a windows XP system builder's version it cost around $100 bucks. That to me is an anticompetitive practice. -- Karthi

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Brad Bendily
I'm wondering though, at least for Dell, I assume they have an image and the hard drives get imaged way before the assembly line. So, to have an option at the assembly line that says, select drive 1 for Windows or drive 2 for OSS... wouldn't be too much to add. I dunno, i have no idea how it actual

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Tim Fournet
The cost for an OEM copy of windows, after all the subsidies is something like $35. If you take into account the costs to build a process to order machines without an OS for the small number of people who would even request that sort of thing, you can see why the big box manufacturers don't want

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Mark A. Lappin
> Few years ago when I was looking into getting a laptop, I could not get a > preloaded linux one > from any "major" manufacturer. The situation is a little bit better now. BTW > the same issue applies to Apple. A few years ago is a whole different story. I don't use linux as my primary desk

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Tim Fournet
Back when this first became an issue, web browsers were still considered an add-on to basic computing for the most part. These days web-based applications are often misssion-critical for a lot of companies and users, and the idea of booting up a new computing without a browser can be troublesome

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Karthik Poobal
I agree that when you put out a product you should be free to do what you want with it but unfortunately when companies have more than 90% of share in a market, they tend to strong arm their competition. Assuming Ford is the only major manufacturer of automobile engines in EU and there are

Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

2009-02-25 Thread Alvaro Zuniga
He Brad You are correct, I have similar feelings towards catalyst converter. I will check out an essay in that area since that is probably a more mature and apparently resolved issue.I am sure many parallels will emerge. Having said that, it sounds like we should probably move this to the politi