Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Aaron Kimball
5 4 2 6 3 1 - Aaron On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: > My vote: > > 5,4,3,2,6,1 > > IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the whole elephant > in 4. >

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Ted Dunning
4, 2, 6 Yes. That isn't enough votes, but I think that the other logos don't cut the mustard for various reasons. 5 is a recycled product logo and I don't think the others make the required visual case. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Amareshwari Sri Ramadasu < amar...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Doug Cutting
5, 2, 4, 6, 1, 3 Doug On 06/15/2011 05:19 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a singl

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Loughran
On 15/06/11 02:15, Allen Wittenauer wrote: I run out of fingers if I count how many times just the mapred.map.child.java.opts was said to be "in 20" prior to the 0.20.203 release...] yeah, that incident involving Camshaft 3.02 beta and your left hand really reduced your counting ability.

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Loughran
On 15/06/11 03:51, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 19:46, Allen Wittenauer wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an enhancement to their current Hadoop build and tell them to stop saying tha

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Loughran
On 15/06/11 00:35, Allen Wittenauer wrote: A minor nit: I'd like to see some cleanup between the first paragraph and the fourth paragraph in compatibility. Or was the re-iteration of our "not a standards committee" intentional? It is sort of awkward as it is currently written. well

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Loughran
On 15/06/11 04:19, Owen O'Malley wrote: All, We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all on a page, here: http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ my vote: 4, 5, 2

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Harsh J
5 6 4 2 3 1 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >   We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a single ro

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Dhruba Borthakur
5 only -dhruba On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Harsh J wrote: > 5 6 4 2 3 1 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > All, > > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > all on a page, here: > > > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-p

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Weiwei Li
5 6 2 1 4 3 2011/6/15 Dhruba Borthakur > 5 only > > -dhruba > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Harsh J wrote: > > > 5 6 4 2 3 1 > > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Owen O'Malley > wrote: > > > All, > > > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put > them > > all

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Who is allowed to vote in this? Committers? PMC? Everyone? Sorry, I should have been clearer. Everyone is allowed and encouraged to vote. Only the PMC votes are binding, however. -- Owen

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: > IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the whole elephant in > 4. Ted has offered to make a more polished version of 4, if there is interest in adopting it. -- Owen

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Aaron T. Myers wrote: > When casting your vote, please keep in mind that the vast majority of the > time the "Powered By" logo will be displayed in a size much smaller than > what is displayed on Owen's link. That's a really good point Aaron. The fonts in all of the

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Allen Wittenauer
On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:44 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > 4, 2, 6 > > Yes. That isn't enough votes, but I think that the other logos don't cut > the mustard for various reasons. 5 is a recycled product logo and I don't > think the others make the required visual case. +1 4,2,6

RE: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Devaraj K
4,5,1,2,6,3 Devaraj K -Original Message- From: Owen O'Malley [mailto:omal...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:04 PM To: general@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Who is allowed to vote in this? Commi

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Marcos Ortiz
On 06/15/2011 07:44 AM, Harsh J wrote: 5 6 4 2 3 1 My vote 5, 4, 6, 3, 1, 2 -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Thomas Graves
My vote: 4,5,1,2,3,6 Tom On 6/14/11 10:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > All, >We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a s

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Xavier Stevens
My vote: 5, 4, 2, 6, 3, 1 On 6/15/11 8:55 AM, Marcos Ortiz wrote: On 06/15/2011 07:44 AM, Harsh J wrote: 5 6 4 2 3 1 My vote 5, 4, 6, 3, 1, 2

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
My vote 5 3 6 1 2 4 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Thomas Graves wrote: > My vote: 4,5,1,2,3,6 > > Tom > > > On 6/14/11 10:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > >> All, >>    We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all >> on a page, here: >> >> http://people.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Henry Robinson
5 2 1 3 6 4 On 15 June 2011 08:54, Eli Collins wrote: > My vote 5 3 6 1 2 4 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Thomas Graves > wrote: > > My vote: 4,5,1,2,3,6 > > > > Tom > > > > > > On 6/14/11 10:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > > > >> All, > >>We've had a wide range of entries for a pow

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:52, Steve Loughran wrote: > On 15/06/11 03:51, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 19:46, Allen Wittenauer  wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > 4, 2, 6 > > Yes.  That isn't enough votes, but I think that the other logos don't cut > the mustard for various reasons.  5 is a recycled product logo and I don't > think the others make the required visual case. 5 is not a product logo, nor w

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread lohit
4,5,6,3,2,1 PS: Powered logo would be advertised by users. Their vote should count :) - Original Message From: Owen O'Malley To: general@hadoop.apache.org Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:19:18 PM Subject: [VOTE] Powered by Logo All, We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Allen Wittenauer wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: >> Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an >> enhancement to their current Hadoop build and tell them to stop saying >> that they are using Hadoop?  You've pa

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Tom White
4, 2, 1, 5, 6, 3 Tom On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >   We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Eli Collins wrote: > >> Wrt derivative works, it's not clear from the document, but I think we >> should explicitly adopt the policy of HTTPD and Subversion that >> backported patches from trunk and security fix

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Jeffrey Naisbitt
My vote: 4,5,1,2,6,3 --Jeff On 6/14/11 10:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > All, >We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Loughran
On 15/06/11 17:23, Eli Collins wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Allen Wittenauer wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an enhancement to their current Hadoop build and tell them to stop saying that the

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Eagles
My vote: 2, 4, 5, 6, 3, 1. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > all on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only

RE: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Anupam Seth
My vote: 5, 4, 1, 6, 2, 3 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Naisbitt [mailto:jnais...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 AM To: general@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo My vote: 4,5,1,2,6,3 --Jeff On 6/14/11 10:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > All

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Dmitriy Ryaboy
2 6 5 1 4 3 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Anupam Seth wrote: > My vote: > > 5, 4, 1, 6, 2, 3 > > -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey Naisbitt [mailto:jnais...@yahoo-inc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 AM > To: general@hadoop.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo >

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > On 15/06/11 17:23, Eli Collins wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Allen Wittenauer  wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an >>

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Aaron T. Myers
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > Ted has offered to make a more polished version of 4, if there is interest > in adopting it. > On that note, is it the case that the outcome of this vote is to adopt the "style" of the winning option? Or the precise pixels? I assume the for

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Ashish
5, 4, 2, 6 On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > all on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a single rou

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Suresh Srinivas
2, 4 On 6/14/11 8:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > All, >We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a single round of voting,

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 15, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Aaron T. Myers wrote: > On that note, is it the case that the outcome of this vote is to adopt the > "style" of the winning option? Or the precise pixels? I assume the former. It is about the style. Technically, it would require a vote to replace the precise pixels,

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Patrick Hunt
5, 6, 1, 3, 4, 2 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Suresh Srinivas wrote: > 2, 4 > > > On 6/14/11 8:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: > >> All, >>    We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all >> on a page, here: >> >> http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Mahadev Konar
2, 4, 6. mahadev On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > 5, 6, 1, 3, 4, 2 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Suresh Srinivas > wrote: >> 2, 4 >> >> >> On 6/14/11 8:19 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: >> >>> All, >>>    We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Foley
Eli, you said: > Putting a build of Hadoop that has 4 security patches applied into the same > category as a product that has entirely re-worked the code and not > gotten it checked into trunk does a major disservice to the people who > contribute to and invest in the project. How would you phrase

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze
4, 2 Regards, Tsz-Wo From: Owen O'Malley To: general@hadoop.apache.org Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:19:18 PM Subject: [VOTE] Powered by Logo All, We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all on a page, here: http://people.ap

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Foley
Oh, and while I can't officially vote, I think this page is extremely well done and I strongly support it. As an editorial note, however, I would remove the last paragraph in the "Compatibility" section, referencing the email thread (that I contributed to at length :-) ). That thread went a

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 to what Eli says. If nobody is running official Hadoop according to this definition, but everybody thinks that they are running hadoop, then this definition is a bit out of whack. The source of the dissonance is related to the fact that release just don't happen often enough in Hadoop. In add

Re: LimitedPrivate and HBase

2011-06-15 Thread Tom White
No offense taken. Sanjay and I chatted offline. We disagree on whether Private should be scoped to the whole project (Hadoop), or to subprojects (Common, HDFS, MapReduce). The intent of HADOOP-5073 was for the latter, but I'm not convinced it buys us anything really, which is why I've been arguing

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread James Warren
5, 4, 2, 3, 1, 6 On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > all on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a sing

Re: Bigtop Proposal

2011-06-15 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Steve Loughran wrote: > For those people who aren't on the Apache Incubator mailing lists, Tom > White has proposed "BigTop", which is the tooling to integrate the build and > testing of the Apache Hadoop technologies, perhaps eventually to have > coordinated rele

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Arun C Murthy
On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Eli Collins wrote: I've spoken with ops teams at many companies, I am not aware of anyone who runs an official release (with just 2 security patches). By this definition many of the most valuable contributors to Hadoop, including Yahoo!, Cloudera, Facebook, etc ar

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread M. C. Srivas
4, 2, 6, 1 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:22 AM, James Warren < james.war...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote: > 5, 4, 2, 3, 1, 6 > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > > All, > > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > > all on a page, here: > > >

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Bochun Bai
6, 4, 5, 2, 1, 3 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: > My vote: > > 5,4,3,2,6,1 > > IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the whole elephant in > 4. >

Meetup Announcement: July 2011 SF HUG (7/13/2011)

2011-06-15 Thread Aaron Kimball
Hadoop fans, Last week we held another successful San Francisco Hadoop "unconference" meetup at RichRelevance's office. Discussion topics included: * Working with multiple Hadoop clusters * HBase * Hive SerDes and evolving data formats * Zookeeper and Leader Election * Timeseries databases / stat

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Bartosz Solowiej
2, 4 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Bochun Bai wrote: > 6, 4, 5, 2, 1, 3 > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: > > My vote: > > > > 5,4,3,2,6,1 > > > > IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the whole elephant > in 4. > > >

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Peter Conrad
4, 2, 6, 1, 3, 5 On 06/15/2011 11:54 AM, Bartosz Solowiej wrote: 2, 4 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Bochun Bai wrote: 6, 4, 5, 2, 1, 3 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: My vote: 5,4,3,2,6,1 IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the whole elephant

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Subhash Gopinath
4, 2, 6

Re: Bigtop Proposal

2011-06-15 Thread Tom White
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Steve Loughran wrote: > >> For those people who aren't on the Apache Incubator mailing lists, Tom >> White has proposed "BigTop", which is the tooling to integrate the build and >> testing of the Apache Hadoop

Powered by Logo Vote

2011-06-15 Thread Richa Khandelwal
4, 2, 6, 1, 3, 5 Thanks, Richa

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Chun Chang
2,4,6,1,3,5 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, M. C. Srivas wrote: > 4, 2, 6, 1 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:22 AM, James Warren < > james.war...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote: > > > 5, 4, 2, 3, 1, 6 > > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley > wrote: > > > > > All, > > > We've had a

2 4 6 5 3 1

2011-06-15 Thread Dave Jespersen
2 4 6 5 3 1

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Simone Leo
I only like 4. A more polished version would be great. Maybe with "Hadoop" instead of "Apache Hadoop". And maybe with a different font :) On 06/15/11 16:35, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Daniel Jue wrote: > >> IMO, 5 is much more polished than the rest, but I like the wh

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Eli Collins wrote: > >> I've spoken with ops teams at many companies,  I am not aware of >> anyone who runs an official release (with just 2 security patches). By >> this definition many of the most valuable c

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Douglas
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Eli Collins wrote: > But Yahoo! hasn't.  According to this wiki YDH (0.20.100) would *not* > be considered Apache Hadoop. For example see HADOOP-6962 which refers > to 0.20.9, an internal Yahoo! release, not an official Apache release. > Are you really comfortable

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Eli Collins wrote: >> But Yahoo! hasn't.  According to this wiki YDH (0.20.100) would *not* >> be considered Apache Hadoop. For example see HADOOP-6962 which refers >> to 0.20.9, an internal Yahoo! release, n

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Todd Papaioannou
2, 4, 5, 3, 6, 1

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Douglas
My vote: 2, 4, 5 -C On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >   We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Matei Zaharia
5, 3, 2, 4, 6, 1 On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > My vote: 2, 4, 5 > > -C > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: >> All, >> We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all >> on a page, here: >> >> http://people.apache.org/~o

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
It should look something like this: http://api.ning.com/files/6tMSBWmZ67YKGzfS0NBp6Xt67YUi5L4ft6OZRsIrq-3EO40OP0mqSJs4b3*5QV0V7shmKnK44LzEGzNSvmDUFqCv6hirrSWX/1105100WC001.jpeg But given the choices: 6 2 4 5 1 3 I put 6 first because it's the only one having Apache logo on it. I think whatever c

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Matthew Foley wrote: > Eli, you said: >> Putting a build of Hadoop that has 4 security patches applied into the same >> category as a product that has entirely re-worked the code and not >> gotten it checked into trunk does a major disservice to the people who >>

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
What are you trying to say? Let's promote a brutal muscling macho power vs. a stuffed yet adorable animal? Think of the children, man! It's been an interesting race: so far 49 people have casted their votes. I think this is by far most alive discussion here! --   Take care, Konstantin (Cos) Boudni

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Andreas Neumann
2 4 5 6 1 3

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Foley
I tend to agree with what I think you are saying, that * applying a small-number-of-patches that are * for high-severity-bug-fixes, and * have been Apache-Hadoop-committed to an Apache Hadoop release should not demote the result to a "derived work". However, if so many pa

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
It's not macho, it's the power coming from Hadoop. The feather would classy on that background too. And children need exercise, especially those dealing with Hadoop. --Konstantin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > What are you trying to say? Let's promote a brutal muscl

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Ken Goodhope
6,2,4 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote: > It's not macho, it's the power coming from Hadoop. > The feather would classy on that background too. > And children need exercise, especially those dealing with Hadoop. > --Konstantin > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Konstan

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Matthew, I'm sorry I have to disagree. If you change a bit in a work, it becomes a derived work. There's no "demotion" involved. Just a definition of derived work. There's no ambiguity. Either you ship the bits that the Apache PMC has voted on as a release, or you change it (one bit) an

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread web service
2. Yep, the feather is bit argh. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ken Goodhope wrote: > 6,2,4 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Konstantin Shvachko > wrote: > > > It's not macho, it's the power coming from Hadoop. > > The feather would classy on that background too. > > And children

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Ian Holsman
So to second a point here. We are not saying you can't patch your distribution, add your own features, share it with your friends, or do whatever you want to the code. all we're saying is that you can't call that 'Apache Hadoop'. On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Matth

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 18:30, Konstantin Shvachko wrote: > It's not macho, it's the power coming from Hadoop. > The feather would classy on that background too. > And children need exercise, especially those dealing with Hadoop. Yeah, lotta heavy lifting here for sure... > --Konstantin > > On W

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Kyoji KATO
Hey all, My vote.. 6,3,5,4,2,1 Thanks, Kyoji KATO On 15 June 2011 12:19, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, > We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > all on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contender

RE: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Rottinghuis, Joep
It does make sense to me to distinguish between the case when a company seeks to benefit from using the Hadoop name for their product and the case when a company uses Hadoop internally with some minor patches. For example: large company creates a game-show playing appliance and explains that th

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Todd Lipcon
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > There's no ambiguity. Either you ship the bits that the Apache PMC has > voted on as a release, or you change it (one bit) and it is no longer what > the PMC has voted on. It's a derived work. > > The rules for voting in Apache require that

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Ian Holsman
On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Craig L Russell > wrote: > >> There's no ambiguity. Either you ship the bits that the Apache PMC has >> voted on as a release, or you change it (one bit) and it is no longer what >> the PMC has voted on. It's a de

powered by hadoop logo:

2011-06-15 Thread UV Saradhi
4, 2, 6, 1, 3, 5

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Esteban Gutierrez
5, 6, 4, 2, 3, 1 esteban. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Kyoji KATO wrote: > > Hey all, > > My vote.. 6,3,5,4,2,1 > > Thanks, > Kyoji KATO > > On 15 June 2011 12:19, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > > All, > >   We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them > > all on a page

Re: [VOTE] Powered by Logo

2011-06-15 Thread Stack
2 St.Ack On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >   We've had a wide range of entries for a powered by logo. I've put them all > on a page, here: > > http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-powered-by/ > > Since there are a lot of contenders and we only want a single round

Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page

2011-06-15 Thread Eric Sammer
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > so yes .. even a simple patch makes it derived, because it is different. > ...and a "dervied work" is fine. Nothing inherently wrong with the term derived. I think the question is can one call it "Hadoop?" Note I'm *not* saying "Apache Hado