Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I haven't read through your material, but unless I am wrong about what I
wrote last night, an ASF Officer also qualifies.
that seems eminently reasonable.
Ah. The crack in the Matrix widens. So I would have been able to
shepherd XMLBeans thr
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
As I understand what is being said, a project is to have a sponsor who is an
ASF Member or Officer. Note that the Incubator PMC Chair is an ASF Officer,
as is every PMC Chair.
... but not every PMC chair is a member (i.e. myself). Things can get
quite funny, that way. It s
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
I just want to say that this requirement of sponsors which should be
members was totally unclear to me when I started talking and working
with the BEA peeps (Cliff Schmidt). So even if this was meant to be by
design, it wasn't very obvious from
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > I just want to say that this requirement of sponsors which should be
> > members was totally unclear to me when I started talking and working
> > with the BEA peeps (Cliff Schmidt). So even if this was meant to be by
> > design, it wasn't very obvious
I have been following this thread with interest and have found the
discussion very informative. Thanks to all who have provided insight for
those of us with less knowledge and experience with the Apache way.
I have been a bit surprised by the lack of discussion about the merits
of the proposal
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:25:53 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> >
> > "Meritocracy"?
> yes, meritocracy. the entire asf is a meritocracy, as is each
> project within it.
I see. but here's one question. Does this "meritocracy"
encourage the inact
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:49:24 -0400
(Subject: RE: ASF member role - accountable to whom)
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Meritocracy"?
> > Here is a good stats on this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mailing list.
> Excuse me, but volume of messages has nothing to do with merit.
Statist
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
I just want to say that this requirement of sponsors which should be
members was totally unclear to me when I started talking and working
with the BEA peeps (Cliff Schmidt). So even if this was meant to be by
design, it wasn't ver
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
> I just want to say that this requirement of sponsors which should be
> members was totally unclear to me when I started talking and working
> with the BEA peeps (Cliff Schmidt). So even if this was meant to be by
> design, it wasn't very obvious from th
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> "Meritocracy"?
yes, meritocracy. the entire asf is a meritocracy, as is each
project within it.
> Here is a good stats on this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mailing list.
:
> Hope this helps :-)
not really, at least not for me, since i don't know what point
you're
> "Meritocracy"?
> Here is a good stats on this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mailing list.
Excuse me, but volume of messages has nothing to do with merit. Roy T.
Fielding posts very infrequently in my experience, but each of his messages
is worth reading. He has a way of cutting through reams of BS w
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:16:38 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> because they haven't yet *demonstrated* enough merit/understanding to
> be nominated for membership. or perhaps they've been nominated but
> declined to accept, which i think also means they don't believe enou
Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
> It would be really helpful if this page were included in the Home menu
> on the Incuabator web site. Also helpful would be the inclusion of the
> first link (roles and responsibilities) on the page concerning the
> incubation process.
the wiki pages are not author
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Stephen,
I haven't read through your material, but unless I am wrong about what I
wrote last night, an ASF Officer also qualifies.
Berin Lautenbach suggested gathering and collating material from this
discussion on the Wiki. Some related pages are:
http://nagoya.apache.o
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
> I haven't read through your material, but unless I am wrong about what I
> wrote last night, an ASF Officer also qualifies.
that seems eminently reasonable.
--
#kenP-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author, developer, opinionist ht
Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
> Are there any Sponsor reponsibilities that I am missing here?
i think that participation in the incubator pmc, particularly
during these formative times, would be very valuable. it would
keep the sponsor informed of the developing policies and procedures,
and conver
Steven Noels wrote:
>
> I just want to say that this requirement of sponsors which should be
> members was totally unclear to me when I started talking and working
> with the BEA peeps (Cliff Schmidt). So even if this was meant to be by
> design, it wasn't very obvious from the information avai
Stephen,
I haven't read through your material, but unless I am wrong about what I
wrote last night, an ASF Officer also qualifies.
Berin Lautenbach suggested gathering and collating material from this
discussion on the Wiki. Some related pages are:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
For example, if a Member undertakes such a
resonsibility, to whom is the member responsible and what would be the
scope of such a responsibility?
to the podling and the incubator pmc, to see that everything gets
done and done properly. similarly to the found
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Should we make a poll so that we can see what others think?
Yawn.
Listen dudes: things were pretty busy when the Lenya/Xopus issue
happened - so thanks Nicola, as a member of the Cocoon PMC, for stepping
forward. Before Nicola however appeared on the Lenya list with his
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
I am specific asking this in the context of the incubator policies. If
I understand correctly, the policies require project sponsorship by a
member and from what member only sheparding. While parhaps with best
intent - it is excluding non-
Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
> The words "the sponsor should take responsibility" is something I agree
> with and is the first tangible link to a rationale between sponsor and
> Member that I have seen so far.
then i think we have been having a significant disconnect. i think the
link has been v
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
What is the Incubator's purpose? What I am told from multiple sources (I
have asked about this out of interest), is that the Incubator is to be used
whenever a substantial codebase (a sub-project) is brought in from outside
the ASF, regardless of whether it is going to be
At 02:54 PM 9/18/2003 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Without a clear sense of responsibility, the end result
are that podlings are essentially left on their own and
"every" Incubator member thinks someone else is
doing the oversight. :/
I think Jim makes a good point.
--
Ceki Gülcü
For log4j do
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 07:56 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
...
I don't doubt it, and the proof ought to be in the ones that have already
done so. I do ask if the PMC doing anything to help encourage other
projects to matriculate?
Last time I proposed that the Jak
Stephen,
The following is synthesized from numerous conversations, messages, etc. It
represents my understanding. Hopefully, if I have gotten any aspects wrong,
someone will correct it (and me).
Please put this in context. There have been questions as to what criteria
should exist for incubati
26 matches
Mail list logo
