Graduation Guide [WAS Re: [VOTE][policy] Remove post-graduation check list from policy document]

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/7/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The guides/graduation.html is absent from the left navbar. If you update the stylesheet so it appears there, then I'm ok with removing it. Maybe it belongs as a sub-bullet under Podling Guides as the last entry. it's just a draft ATM (which

Re: Gauging interest for incubating PDFBox...

2007-05-06 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 5/7/07, Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, after hearing PDFBox mentioned many times last week, I thought it might be a good idea to ask around inside a wider area to see how the ASF is potentially interested in adopting PDFBox among its projects. At least Jackrabbit and Nut

Gauging interest for incubating PDFBox...

2007-05-06 Thread Jeremias Maerki
At ApacheCon last week, I got the impression that quite a few Apache projects (especially the Lucene and XML Graphics communities) have a particular interest in PDFBox, a library for manipulating PDF files (BSD license): http://www.pdfbox.org Ben Litchfield, PDFBox's main author, has contacted the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, +1 for getting this going. My only concern is the slightly ambiguous #7. I don't know that there is a standard layout for releases. It sure would be nice. I really hate to bring up maven since the subject is clearly non- maven, but I expect many projects to build the source and b

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Carlos Sanchez
I didn't have a chance to talk about this with Shane but the idea in the end is to make the repository agnostic on how things are stored and how the client uses them. Right now is a simple directory, but could be a database with a web front end or anything like that. It shouldn't matter how NMaven

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
Shane, Honestly, it sounds like the NMaven stuff will need a complete new set of repositories for NMaven artifacts. There isn't any way, IMO, that the repo layout can change for the normal maven 1 and maven 2 repositories. Incubator or repo1.maven.org is relatively irrelevant in that rega

Re: [VOTE][policy] Remove post-graduation check list from policy document

2007-05-06 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 with one comment. The guides/graduation.html is absent from the left navbar. If you update the stylesheet so it appears there, then I'm ok with removing it. Maybe it belongs as a sub-bullet under Podling Guides as the last entry. Craig On May 6, 2007, at 10:50 AM, robert burrell donki

Re: [VOTE][policy] Remove post-graduation check list from policy document

2007-05-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On 5/7/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [x] +0 Sounds like a good idea (but not enough time to check) Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Craig L Russell
[X ] use standard repositories [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator On May 6, 2007, at 4:57 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories u

RE: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jason, Would you please address Shane's issues? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[VOTE][RESULT] Graduate OpenJPA from incubation

2007-05-06 Thread Craig L Russell
The vote in the OpenJPA community to graduate from the incubator to a new top level project has completed. The vote thread can be viewed at [1] starting with message [2]. The next step is to prepare a vote for the incubator. +1 votes were recorded from: Craig Russell Patrick Linskey Marc Pr

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/6/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6 May 07, at 4:57 AM 6 May 07, robert burrell donkin wrote: > incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ > dist > > AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories > under /www.apache.org/dist/in

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Shane Isbell
[ ] use standard repositories [ x ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator My reasons are as follows: First, NMaven does not follow the standard repo layout; second, the repository layout structure is still in a state of flux, meaning that there is a need for potentially chang

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 4:57 AM 6 May 07, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones of course, staging f

[VOTE][policy] Remove post-graduation check list from policy document

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
the current policy document unnecessarily specifies actions to be done after graduation. i would like to see these removed from policy and replaced by a link to the graduation guide. see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-55 or the diff at the bottom of this document - robert -

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
Thanks for the clarification Robert. I'm glad we didn't mess something up. :-) I'll definitely keep an eye on the various threads for information about the changes. It all sounds very good to me. :-) Dan On Sunday 06 May 2007 06:55, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 5/3/07, Daniel Kulp

RAT [Re: [VOTE] approve release of OpenJPA 0.9.7]

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/27/07, Eddie O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, I'm all for requesting that incubating projects requesting IPMC approval of a release provide a RAT report as well as explanations for any missing license headers since that's a focus of a lot of the ensuing conversation about a release.

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
[ x ] use standard repositories [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator Eelco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. > I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either > incubator or incubating.(ex: 2.0-incubator, 1.3-incuba

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either incubator or incubating.(ex: 2.0-incubator, 1.3-incubating, etc..) Putting it in the group ID causes a MUCH larger

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
[X] +1 Xavier On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: infra requires that all releases are contained within /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current situation for standard (non-maven) releases: 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/bro

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
[ X ] use standard repositories On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:57, robert burrell donkin wrote: > [ X ] use standard repositories > [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incuba

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:57, robert burrell donkin wrote: > [ X ] use standard repositories > [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either incubator

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:45, robert burrell donkin wrote: > 8< > [ X ] +1 I'm glad this this finally being taken care of. Thanks for picking it up and driving it forward. -- J. Daniel Kulp Principal Engineer IONA P: 781-902-8727

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread Thilo Goetz
robert burrell donkin wrote: ... quick opinions can use poll below - robert 8< [X] +1 (non-binding) Sounds good. I'm no good with html or javascript, but I'd be happy to help with the docs. --Thilo ---

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] use standard repositories I would say that podlings using maven would be required to set their project's group id to org.apache.incubator., and possibly even extend an incubator parent pom. This way the podling distributables are

Re: PROPOSAL vs VOTE [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)]

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [X] +1 (non-binding) it's a PROPOSAL not a VOTE. it's an informal way of gauging whether there's general consensus around a plan. so there's no difference between binding and no

PROPOSAL vs VOTE [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)]

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [X] +1 (non-binding) it's a PROPOSAL not a VOTE. it's an informal way of gauging whether there's general consensus around a plan. so there's no difference between binding and non-binding votes. - robert -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
[X] +1 (non-binding) Sounds like a plan. Martijn -- Learn Wicket at ApacheCon Europe: http://apachecon.com Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket Wicket 1.2.6 contains a very important fix. Download Wicket now! http://wicketframework.org --

[POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones of course, staging for the purpose of release verification would continue to happen unde

[PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
infra requires that all releases are contained within /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current situation for standard (non-maven) releases: 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62) 2 explain policy in release management guide 3 create /www/

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
From what I overheard, the old place is as bad as the new place. And What I meant was: at *this time*. The new place is much better when everything is set up. Martijn -- Learn Wicket at ApacheCon Europe: http://apachecon.com Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket Wicket 1.2.6

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'd rather have CXF and wicket in the old places and have the time to do this properly than delay the releases or rush the move And this is why we put the release in the old place. We want to keep our project going whilst still working

Re: [suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/5/07, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jo! The whole jira-patch-commit workflow for the documentation seems annoying. At least it annoys me -- in particular the patches don't show up in my email so I have to visit jira which I try and avoid as much as possible :-). Suggestions: 1) cr

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-62) [policy] State distribution directory

2007-05-06 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated INCUBATOR-62: --- Attachment: distribution.patch > [policy] State distribution directory > --

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-62) [policy] State distribution directory

2007-05-06 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated INCUBATOR-62: --- Attachment: (was: distribution.patch) > [policy] State distribution dir

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/3/07, Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/2/07, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do other projects have a good way to track this? I know we could pull > > the logs for the p.a.o webserver and grep through them looking for > > things, but I'm wondering if there's somethi

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/3/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noel, On Thursday 03 May 2007 03:59, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Except you forget one detail: incubator artifacts don't go to the > > mirror system. > > And that's changing/changed. Can I ask when?The vote that was called in mid march [1] n

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
FYI, Vadim is already providing stats on some (non incubating) projects: http://people.apache.org/~vgritsenko/stats/projects/index.html I don't know if it's easy for him to add incubating projects, and how he deals with mirrors. In a sense even if the download counter is not accurate, I agree wit