Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread ant elder
On 9/15/07, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote: Hi, We are using Apache Rampart 1.3 to enable ws security into the ws- binding-axis2 module for Apache Tuscany v1.0 which we hope to release in a week. Using Rampart seems to bring

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread Kevan Miller
On Sep 15, 2007, at 5:59 AM, ant elder wrote: On 9/15/07, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote: Hi, We are using Apache Rampart 1.3 to enable ws security into the ws- binding-axis2 module for Apache Tuscany v1.0 which we hope to

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread James M Snell
FWIW, just as a general FYI, Abdera also ships the bouncycastle jar but use of the jar is limited to the optional security and example modules and it's use has been documented in several locations. - James Kevan Miller wrote: On Sep 15, 2007, at 5:59 AM, ant elder wrote: On 9/15/07, Kevan

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Kevan Miller wrote: That previous discussion was about including a JXTA dependency, for this one I think we're just following what we've seen other Apache projects that support ws-security are doing, so I guess we were assuming was ok. Are you saying its not ok to distribute the BouncyCastle

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread James M Snell
Well, as far as Abdera is concerned, there'd be absolutely no problem with not shipping the jar. We can easily document how to go off and get the jar and the functions we're using it for can be provided by other crypto providers. If the board does not want us shipping it, just let us know and

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
James M Snell wrote: Well, as far as Abdera is concerned, there'd be absolutely no problem with not shipping the jar. We can easily document how to go off and get the jar and the functions we're using it for can be provided by other crypto providers. If the board does not want us shipping

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Kevan Miller wrote: There was a discussion earlier this year about Tuscany, BouncyCastle, and a patented IDEA algorithm implemented by BouncyCastle -- http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200702.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] FWIW, the IDEA patent expires on 25-05-2010. I

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread James M Snell
I'll say Generally Soft. There are a couple of classes that require bouncy to compile, but their use is entirely optional. Two of the classes are example code that is only shipped in source form -- we test compile the examples before shipping them. The other classes are optional utility classes

Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0

2007-09-15 Thread Venkata Krishnan
As far as Tuscany is concerned our dependency on BouncyCastle comes thro our use of Rampart 1.3. I just checked up the Rampart distros and it does have the bouncy castle jar packed in it - releases and snapshots (eg. http://people.apache.org/dist/rampart/nightly/rampart-SNAPSHOT.zip). Though