On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 12:31 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>
>> We don't have to. We can simply mandate that every ASF project sign their
>> artifacts and charge the Maven PMC with enforcing it.
>
> No. The Maven
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Drop any pretense that the incubator has a say
> over the already-done code releases, and we can seriously start the real
> discussion, which would have been "motivating projects to graduate" if we
> hadn't wasted s
"William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> I will support the "initial intent" of no releases out of Incubator.
>
> Which would work, except for the fact that the incubator decided it's a good
> idea to have podlings demonstrate how releases work in a meritocracy
Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
+1
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On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
Hi to all;
I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans.
It is in the WIKI, its address is
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal
I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one
wording chan
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Not accept podlings to release code. Possibly having the "final
> act" of the podling to do a release, which effectuates the graduation.
>
> I am Ok with either of these, since I think that downstream users
> ain't st
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>
>> Hi to all;
>>
>> I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans.
>>
>> It is in the WIKI, its address is
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBean
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 11:20 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>>
>> > There is a pretty nice proposal on
>> > http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/, however this will again take a
>> >
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > We don't have to. We can simply mandate that every ASF project sign
their
> > artifacts and charge the Maven PMC with enforcing it.
> No. The Maven PMC is charged with developing software for the Apache
> Maven project.
You misunderstan
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Being in the camp "I hate Maven too"
I hate Maven's lack of authentication, the potential for widespread damage,
and am immensely frustrated by their *years* of willfully negligent handling
thereof.
> I would like to swap Noel's statement around and ask; Why doesn't
> sec
Jason van Zyl wrote:
> The discussions are taking place on the Maven PMC list. If you are a
> member you can join the list.
Why are those discussions taking place on a private, closed, list instead of
an open one?
--- Noel
--
Note that problem A and B both occur at manual steps in the
build/development process.
Just wanted to point that out to folks who complain that maven is
insecure because it downloads stuff automatically.
With checksums, as long as the manual steps are secure, automated bits
should be secure too.
Hi Kevan, Matthias;
The project current code base is in the sourceforge -->
http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/.
I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously.
About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is publish
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 10:21 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > We don't have to. We can simply mandate that every ASF project sign
> their
> > > artifacts and charge the Maven PMC with enforcing it.
>
> > No. The Maven PMC is charged
+1
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 22:00 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
>
> The proposal can be found at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal
>
> The text of the proposal
>
> = Droids, an intelligent standalone robot framework =
>
> ===
Hi Conny,
Its great, and thanks for interesting about the proposal. I have just sent the
source code of the implementation sourceforge addresses to the this group (It
is http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/).
Lets discuss the things about the implementation and sp
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Drop any pretense that the incubator has a say
>> over the already-done code releases, and we can seriously start the real
>> discussion, which would have been "motivating projects to gr
I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs.
You need a NDA for that.
-M
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Kevan, Matthias;
>
> The project current code base is in the sourceforge -->
> http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/w
Hi Bill;
Thanks for considering about the proposal. This is the seperate effort from the
Gavin King. Actually, I have requested from the Gavin to add me as an observer
to the working group, I haven't received any response.
I changed the wrong term *JEE* from the proposal.
Sincerely;
Gurkan
+1
Regards,
Alan
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
The proposal can be found at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal
The text of the proposal
= Droids, an intelligent standalone robot framework =
=== Abstract
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a slight majority (of binding votes) for accepting the
> proposed change, but given the clear lack of consensus and the
> concerns voiced about that, I unfortunately need to conclude that this
> issue should be
Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
Hi Bill;
Thanks for considering about the proposal. This is the seperate effort
from the Gavin King. Actually, I have requested from the Gavin to add me
as an observer to the working group, I haven't received any response.
I changed the wrong term *JEE* from the propos
unfortunately the complete java *community* process isn't that open.
So, the update of the proposal needs to wait a bit... until the spec draft is
accessible for common people.
IMO the update isn't really required at all. We just discuss here if such a
project is interesting in Apache land or not.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wherever the additional license files are placed, they need to be
> referenced from the main LICENSE file.
I'm not sure where you get this from. This is the first time I hear
this requirement.
Martijn
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Martijn Dashorst wrote:
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wherever the additional license files are placed, they need to be
referenced from the main LICENSE file.
I'm not sure where you get this from. This is the first time I hear
this requirement.
the
Pig Developers and Mentors,
Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release,
resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements
including pipeline redesign, addition of streaming and limit
fu
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pig Developers and Mentors,
>
> Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we
> had extended our community with 2 new committers,
Has this list been updated recently ? Does it reflect the current
> -Original Message-
> From: Luciano Resende [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:11 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation
> to hadoop subproject
>
> On M
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are maven plugins that can validate the checksums of 3rd party
> dependencies.
Uhhh... Call me stupid, but how can checksum solve anything other than
assuring that the download worked?? AFAIK, Maven does not pick up
On 6-Oct-08, at 10:21 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Being in the camp "I hate Maven too"
I hate Maven's lack of authentication, the potential for widespread
damage,
and am immensely frustrated by their *years* of willfully negligent
handling
thereof.
I would like t
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about a brand new idea?
>
> Lay down a Milestone-style chart of what it takes to operate as an ASF
> project. Demonstrate community of meritocracy, add committers or ppmc
> members based on contributions, comple
The central repository is the Maven PMC's business. What results will
be public policy but we'd like to avoid the banter of the misinformed
so we can arrive at a decision quickly.
On 6-Oct-08, at 10:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Jason van Zyl wrote:
The discussions are taking place on the
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The central repository is the Maven PMC's business. What results will be
> public policy but we'd like to avoid the banter of the misinformed so we can
> arrive at a decision quickly.
Yes, although the PMC is expected to d
On 7-Oct-08, at 12:02 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
The central repository is the Maven PMC's business. What results
will be
public policy but we'd like to avoid the banter of the misinformed
so we can
arrive at a decis
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