Re: [VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating

2012-03-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is the third incubator release for Apache Bigtop, version > 0.3.0-incubating. > > It fixes the following issues: >  https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12317841&projectId=12311420 > > The delta between RC0

Re: [VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating

2012-03-26 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
+1 Downloaded, verified checksums and signature. Built Hadoop and HBase. All looks good. Thanks, --Konst > From: Roman Shaposhnik > Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM > Subject: [VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating > To: bigtop-...@incubator.apache.org, general@incubator.apache.or

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread sebb
On 26 March 2012 17:51, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> For projects who have settled on a permanent >> name, some things might be better.  But this >> does not make life easier for the project nor >> infra when our incubator-related infra de

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread sebb
On 26 March 2012 16:20, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM, sebb wrote: >>> On 26 March 2012 02:38, Shinichiro Abe wrote: Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubat

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Different venue is fine. I was merely observing that we (almost every project) produces source and binaries distributions from the same pages. Hard to argue we don't distribute binaries; we do. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine On Mar 26, 2

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
"Policy is that binaries are not endorsed by the ASF. " I don't think anyone said anything differently. There is a huge difference between endorsing a third-party binary and distributing it. But if I misunderstand and it is Apache's policy that we don't distribute any third-party binaries then w

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > My point is that if push came to shove, legally, I think the -bin objects > would be considered a distribution. I disagree. The ASF only releases source. If I understand correctly, changing that position undermines the indemnification pro

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Sorry. Meant ASF not ASC. My thumbs are too big for my phone. My point is that if push came to shove, legally, I think the -bin objects would be considered a distribution. Matt Hogstrom On Mar 26, 2012, at 13:36, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE. We don'

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE. We don't release third party binaries, period. Mainifold and other projects package up source AND binaries so I don't think we can say way don't release binaries. We do. It's more of a convenience. It the -bin packages emanate from the projects

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > For projects who have settled on a permanent > name, some things might be better.  But this > does not make life easier for the project nor > infra when our incubator-related infra depends > on naming conventions being followed, so this >

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE.  We don't release > third party binaries, period.  Hence, the specific examples that > you provided are not valid for a release LICENSE.  They might be > valid for the license file included

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Roy T. Fielding wrote on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 18:05:05 +0200: > Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE. We don't release > third party binaries, period. Hence, the specific examples that > you provided are not valid for a release LICENSE. They might be > valid for the license file included

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
We distribute binaries with the source distribution as well. Otherwise it is not possible to build the source. This too is similar to Lucene and Solr. I am curious as to when it became a requirement that source and binary distributions have independent LICENSE and NOTICE files. Thanks, Karl On

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > To your comment on the downside.  It is something that mentors need to > manage to.  For projects that are moving like a herd of turtles, they get > ASF benefits right up front and for those that are lazy like me, there is > less incentive to

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > Some clarifications: > > Hi Roy, > > (1) Our LICENSE.txt file currently contains references to all > non-Apache jars that we redistribute, and a reference or description > of the licensing of that jar. We do not attempt to relicense > anything.

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 from me on this proposal :) Cheers, Chris On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web > site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.apache.org and > repos/asf/incubator. As a consequence they need to perform an

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
Some clarifications: Hi Roy, (1) Our LICENSE.txt file currently contains references to all non-Apache jars that we redistribute, and a reference or description of the licensing of that jar. We do not attempt to relicense anything. No shared release process is involved for any third-party jar we

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
For projects who have settled on a permanent name, some things might be better.  But this does not make life easier for the project nor infra when our incubator-related infra depends on naming conventions being followed, so this decisions isn't purely an IPMC one. >_

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flume version 1.1.0-incubating (rc1)

2012-03-26 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Guys, +1 from me (binding). SIGS check out: [chipotle:~/tmp/flume-110] mattmann% curl -O http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/flume/KEYS % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time Current Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Spe

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
+1 To your comment on the downside. It is something that mentors need to manage to. For projects that are moving like a herd of turtles, they get ASF benefits right up front and for those that are lazy like me, there is less incentive to move. Trying this approach and seeing how it plays ou

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM, sebb wrote: >> On 26 March 2012 02:38, Shinichiro Abe wrote: >>> Hello Incubator IPMC, >>> >>> Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0. >>> This RC has passed our podling vote and

Re: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

2012-03-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/24/12 5:28 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: 2012/3/13 Jürgen Schmidt: we have prepared a new developer snapshot on the way to our first release. Hello again... I have a couple more questions. sorry for the late response, I haven't noticed it before It looks like the dev snapshot src tarball

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 you know you're going in the right direction if it means less process Regards, Alan On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web > site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.apache.org and > repos/asf/incubat

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Michael McCandless
+1 Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web > site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.apache.org and > repos/asf/incubator. As a consequence they need to p

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Benson Margulies
+1 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web > site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.apache.org and > repos/asf/incubator. As a consequence they need to perform an extra > infrastructure migration when t

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Shinichiro Abe wrote: > Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0. +1 to release (checked the -src.tar.gz package with SHA1 checksum a55cebf7d725f2363ccf40e4f0129b95110fa36d) As for the issues raised by Sebb: * NOTICE; Let's fi

[WITHDRAW][VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
Withdrawing the release candidate from consideration in order to address sebb's blocking license/notice issues. Karl On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM, sebb wrote: > On 26 March 2012 02:38, Shinichiro Abe wrote: >> Hello Incubator IPMC, >> >> Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0

Re: Simplifying podling infra

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
A big +1 from me. It's a royal pain in the rear to move so much stuff around just because of graduation. Karl On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web > site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.apache.or

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
Thanks for the review. Build with maven requires running "mvn-bootstrap" script first. Primary build is ant. This is described in the documentation. License notices have been released 4 previous times in this form and were based originally on Solr/Lucene, which included many of the same dependen

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Some comments: The NOTICEs file does not indicate that there is software from outside the ASF... for instance, Jetty is a Codehaus project. Same license, different org. Here is what Geronimo does: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/2.1.4/NOTICE.txt The code signing Key i

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
How's this for a diff to address the LICENSE.txt problem: Index: LICENSE.txt === --- LICENSE.txt (revision 1304322) +++ LICENSE.txt (working copy) @@ -230,15 +230,19 @@ This product includes a jaxb-impl.jar. License: Dual license c

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread sebb
On 26 March 2012 02:38, Shinichiro Abe wrote: > Hello Incubator IPMC, > > Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0. > This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. > You can find the artifact at > http://people.apache.org/~shinichiro/apache-manifold

Re: [VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating

2012-03-26 Thread Bruno Mahé
On 03/20/2012 11:35 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is the third incubator release for Apache Bigtop, version > 0.3.0-incubating. > > It fixes the following issues: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12317841&projectId=12311420 > > The delta between RC0 and

Re: [VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating

2012-03-26 Thread Bruno Mahé
On 03/20/2012 09:13 PM, Ron Bogdanoff wrote: > I tried building/testing RC1 today. Question, I am probably doing > something wrong here, not sure... > > Build was ok, can run PI test. > > I am trying to run the smoke tests in bigtop-tests/test-artifacts. I > needed to add a to the pom for > ht

Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0

2012-03-26 Thread Karl Wright
+1 from me (binding). Karl On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Shinichiro Abe wrote: > Hello Incubator IPMC, > > Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0. > This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. > You can find the artifact at > http://people.a