Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: ...As one of the active developers I would have a serious problem if we as project

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: ...As one of the active

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Really, all this fuss over the LABELLING of a file being distributed does not add value to either the org, the podling, or the users of the software.  Nowhere is it written that you CANNOT DISTRIBUTE BINARIES, however it has always been clear that they are provided for the convenience of our

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Andrew Rist
On 8/24/2012 11:19 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Really, all this fuss over the LABELLING of a file being distributed does not add value to either the org, the podling, or the users of the software. Nowhere is it written that you CANNOT DISTRIBUTE BINARIES, however it has always been clear that they

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Exactly- just work within the constraints and there is no practical problem whatsoever. From: Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Benson Margulies
This policy is enshrined in the original foundation articles of incorporation, and has been restated, over and over, by board members. Most colorfully by Roy T. Fielding, who was 'present at the birth.' Many are sympathetic to the AOO situation, and this is why the suggestion from the VP legal

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
WHAT PROBLEM?  THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE, CURRENT POLICY FULLY COVERS WHAT AOO ACTUALLY DOES.  END OF DISCUSSION. A discussion about blessing binaries with cryptographic signatures supplied by the org is totally out ofscope for this thread. From: Benson

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
Joe: that is what is being discussed. Blessed binaries. Go back to Dennis' email for the need for these. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: WHAT PROBLEM? THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE, CURRENT POLICY FULLY COVERS WHAT AOO ACTUALLY DOES. END OF DISCUSSION.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Joe: that is what is being discussed. Blessed binaries.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Returning to this topic after an intermission... On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Or if someone who cared sufficiently about this policy area took ownership and proposed a wording of the policy, either as a Board resolution, or on legal-discuss, and had that policy approved and recorded via the ordinary

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Or if someone who cared sufficiently about this policy area took ownership and proposed a wording of the policy, either as a Board resolution, or on legal-discuss, and had that policy approved and recorded via the ordinary