Le 9 août 2015 03:31, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com a écrit :
Even for a jsr tests are not part of a release, except the ones that are
part of the TCK.
Doesnt mean it is good or apache way ;)
In your case you may resolve/fix the snapshot dep to bind
to the specific snapshot version
Even for a jsr tests are not part of a release, except the ones that are
part of the TCK. In your case you may resolve/fix the snapshot dep to bind
to the specific snapshot version currently used...?
Jusr my 5 cents.
Anatole
Am 09.08.2015 11:05 schrieb Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com:
A tag should be buildable anytime. Snapshots can be dropped from repos so
from my understanding it is an issue even if less impacting than direct
binaries dependencies.
Le 9 août 2015 02:05, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com a écrit :
Hi,
Are tests are part of the release?
If they are
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the reasoning behind the requirement to have the board of the ASF
task the PMC of the intended project to define a set of project bylaws that
couldn't have been established during incubation?
What are the
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:57 AM Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:
Even for a jsr tests are not part of a release, except the ones that are
part of the TCK.
An Apache release consists of archived source code
Thanks Dave, and I'm recommending that we follow Marvin's advice.
We should have renamed the subject of this to [DISCUSS] but that's a
non-issue at this point. (renamed it myself)
I'm curious about how, in general, the incubator feels about Usergrid
graduating. Is anyone concerned with it?
@john: no since it would likely be deleted and has no link with revisions
so it is still highly mutable
Le 9 août 2015 07:11, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org a écrit :
And if you're using a snapshot, just switch to the timestamp based
snapshot.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:29 AM Romain
And if you're using a snapshot, just switch to the timestamp based snapshot.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:29 AM Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com
wrote:
A tag should be buildable anytime. Snapshots can be dropped from repos so
from my understanding it is an issue even if less impacting than
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:
Even for a jsr tests are not part of a release, except the ones that are
part of the TCK.
An Apache release consists of archived source code which is vetted and
voted by a PMC. Anything bundled in the source archive is
I removed that paragraph from the latest version of the TLP Resolution. It
was a mistake; only there because I copied some other project's resolution.
- Dave
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:50 AM Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Pierre Smits
Your observations are correct. Though I disagree with the interpretation of
policy (this was the topic of a recent thread on the general list).
We have 4 IPMC votes. The summary is on the PPMC list where the project is
managed.
Feel free to cast a -1 and invoke the IPMC process machine. In
On Aug 9, 2015 4:05 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
Hi,
Are tests are part of the release?
If they are included as source code in the released artefact yes :-)
Well put. The Apache HTTP Server has several 'test' modules which are
embedded in release tarballs. The 'test
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
Ross,
It seems like there are multiple issues with this vote thread.
1. It looks like it was started on the dev list, but then sent to general
asking for a 3rd IPMC vote. This is not generally how things are done. A
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 2:22 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
Just want to check if anyone is picking up the remaining report content?
If not I'll do it tonight and send a draft.
Please go ahead, John!
And be sure to credit yourself:
* Report Manager: John D. Ament
Marvin
Ross,
It seems like there are multiple issues with this vote thread.
1. It looks like it was started on the dev list, but then sent to general
asking for a 3rd IPMC vote. This is not generally how things are done. A
new vote thread should be started to cover the vote on the general list.
The
Just want to check if anyone is picking up the remaining report content?
If not I'll do it tonight and send a draft.
On Jul 31, 2015 16:45, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
August 2015 Incubator report timeline:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2015
Wed August 05
All,
I'd like to present the draft board report for additional community input.
We have reports expected from 19 podlings, 12 reported, 7 did not. Of the
7 that did not report, I left in the shepherd comments on 2 (myself and
Justin Mclean) who had some additional insights on the welfare of the
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
seeing.
The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to
Thorsten and
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
...is Apache Brand meant to protect *any* possible object/binary
artifact or only those that PMC actually care about?...
IMO any
I'm confused about whether this is one proposal or two
proposals rolled into one. On one hand it seems like
Apex and Malhar are independent. On the other hand
the proposal covers Apex in great details but not so
much Malhar.
As usual with ASF, the real question here is the community
for the two.
Hello John,
Lens graduation vote passed as well. Can we include it in the report for The
board has motions for the following?
Thanks
Amareshwari
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:00 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
All,
I'd like to present the draft board report for additional
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
Roman,
That was a *really* long email.
Well, I do those from time to time ;-)
1) The concept of a brand covering some artifact doesn't come into play at
all. Instead, there are two things that happen. The first is
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Thank you Marvin. John I note that you use this as part of your due diligence
process. On the next release we will copy the result vote to the general
thread.
I'm trying really hard to avoid dragging Ripple into a
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
...is Apache Brand meant to protect *any* possible
For incubator projects, I strongly suggest renames unless there is a
compelling counter argument.
I think that many others would make similar suggestions, but doubt that
there is explicit policy on this.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
Thank you
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:07 PM Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
Ross,
It seems like there are multiple issues with this vote thread.
1. It looks like it was started on the dev list, but then sent
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:19 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
Please don't get me wrong. I'm not about to shoot this release down. It's
an observation from trying to reconcile the releases in dist w/ the monthly
report list to ensure everything looks right (since I typically go
FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me
to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're
seeing.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:45 AM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
All,
I'm very concerned with the droids podling.
First, their
Thank you Marvin. John I note that you use this as part of your due diligence
process. On the next release we will copy the result vote to the general thread.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Marvin Humphreymailto:mar...@rectangular.com
Sent: 8/9/2015 5:55 PM
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
Roman,
That was a *really* long email.
Well, I do those from time to time ;-)
1) The concept of a brand covering some artifact doesn't
Roman,
It is a single proposal. Ted and I talked at length on this. The main
difference is the release frequency and need for Malhar to work off a
stable release of Apex. The proposal is for a single community not two, and
to share all the community aspects (emails, commiters, etc.)
Thks,
Amol
I had some long talks with Amol on exactly this point when he was getting
started with this proposal.
At the current time, it appears that the developer communities for these
two systems are indistinguishable. Moreover, neither project is actually
much use without the other. Malhar requires
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote:
A tag should be buildable anytime. Snapshots can be dropped from repos so
from my understanding it is an issue even if less impacting than direct
binaries dependencies.
To me the above is exactly the way to think
Thank you all for the feedback. This is super helpful!
One question that I still have is this: do we have a bias
for suggesting package rename or any package name
can remain in place?
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote:
Hi,
Jena graduated 2012
Yes, that's what I meant. I don't agree with the need (if 3 IPMC votes are
available in the podling), just as the board is not notified of TLP votes.
However, I do agree the policy is currently that the IPMC is notified.
I have always notified the IPMC, and will continue to do so while the
Hi,
What is the reasoning behind the requirement to have the board of the ASF
task the PMC of the intended project to define a set of project bylaws that
couldn't have been established during incubation?
What are the circumstances that require this TLP (to be) to have a set of
bylaws that are
Are tests are part of the release?
Background: We have (accidentally) a dependency to a snapshot version
for a library but only in maven test scope.
Thanks
Hendrik
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On 9 August 2015 at 10:43, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote:
Are tests are part of the release?
It is not a mandatory part, the project defines the content of the release.
I work with a.o. Corinthia, there we have some test cases that will not be
released, but most will, for
dependency
Hi,
Are tests are part of the release?
If they are included as source code in the released artefact yes :-)
Background: We have (accidentally) a dependency to a snapshot version
for a library but only in maven test scope.
Up to the project I’d say, but I’d just raise a JIRA and fix it next
All,
I'm very concerned with the droids podling.
First, their website no longer works: http://incubator.apache.org/droids/
Second, Their ML archives indicate no activity for a year. There has been
consistently 1 email on the list per month. Its generally about the board
report, and a couple
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