Re: Request for write access to Incubator Wiki

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, aditi hilbert wrote: I would like to be granted write access to the Apache Wiki for the Apache Incubator. I shall be posting the status report content on behalf of the new Mynewt project. My username is ‘aditihilbert' Karma granted, good luck with the report! Nick

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

> PMC membership has nothing to do with technical mastery of the codebase, > which is why I cringe every time I see people talking about what "the bar" > should be. It's about trust. If you trust someone to work the gears on a > release, > that has considerable impact on the well-being of a

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/05/2015 01:34 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Thanks Lenni. If Joe will permit me to put some words in his mouth, > he seems to be focused on how the project is solving coordination problems. > Coming to agreement on things like what to include in a release for > instance, which jiras get punted

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On 11/05/2015 03:13 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: >> PMC membership has nothing to do with technical mastery of the codebase, >> which is why I cringe every time I see people talking about what "the bar" >> should be. It's about trust. If you trust someone to work the gears on a >> release, >>

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Correct. It is a tool, but not a requirement (at least not yet). > And since I repeatedly suggested this tool on this thread let me explain why. And, this is the root of my concern expressed in the other general@

Re: Question about proposal champions

Hi Greg, from my experience it has proven to be very hard to start single-man-shows here. The Incubator works best if there is an active community already. If you are a sole person, you might also consider labs.apache.org. Some people say, Labs is for experiments, and when there is a community,

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

+1 - I am concerned by the trend that I see developing here. A set of interview questions for evaluation is one thing but criteria checkboxes that will encourage behaviors by rote will not actually develop more healthy communities just communities that can get the boxes checked. While certain

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Hi Caleb - I am glad that it is useful for your projects. I think that the use of it that you describe is valuable. It should be used as guidance and interpreted by the mentors for each podling. "These sort of metrics can be used to indicate health in this way or that" - this is different from

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I am not in favor of bureaucracy, However... Having reviewed the maturity model and speaking as a member of a newly incubating podling I would like to chime in to say that I find it very useful. It helps frame discussions around what we can be doing as a community to embrace the apache way, move

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > IIRC you Roman were on the list of "undersigned" ;-). Yup. And that's why I felt like clarifying. > It got shot down for many, many reasons. Well, that depends on what 'it' is. But that's a different conversation ;-)

Re: Wave - download page links to nightly builds etc

On 5 November 2015 at 17:02, Ali Lown wrote: > Sebb, > > I have moved the nightly builds section to its own page only > accessible under the releases section on the getting involved page. > (It might be slightly too hidden for people to find it now). The new page looks good,

maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

I don't think anybody is pining to make compliance with Bertrand's very nice document into a policy document. Rather, some people are finding it a useful guide to gauging project maturity, which is great and should be encouraged. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:35 PM, larry mccay

Re: Question about proposal champions

Hi guys, Thanks for the info. My primary goal in proposing this project for incubation is to build a developer community. If Apache Labs is a better place to start, that's fine - I'll look into that. FYI, the current source code for the project is here: https://github.com/gk-brown/WebRPC If

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

IIRC you Roman were on the list of "undersigned" ;-). It got shot down for many, many reasons. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > I don't think anybody is pining to make

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I don't think anybody is pining to make compliance with Bertrand's very nice > document into a policy document. To be fair, one offshoot of the 'undersigned' epic had that implication. It got shot down with 'trust the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Sirona 0.3-incubating

Hi, +1 (binding) but only if you raise a JIRA and fix up LICENSE and NOTICE issues for the next release. Everything here is permissive so it's more a documentation issue than an licensing error. For the next release could you mind mentioning the git/svn hash that the released code

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Le 05/11/15 13:48, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : > On 11/05/2015 03:13 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: >>> PMC membership has nothing to do with technical mastery of the codebase, >>> which is why I cringe every time I see people talking about what "the bar" >>> should be. It's about trust. If you trust

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...that brought us to our current, much less forceful, treatment > of the maturity model. Which is what I (and a few others including > it seems yourself) have been advocating on *this* thread. I took the tenor of

Question about proposal champions

Hi all, I've been out of the Apache loop for a while, but I have a new project I'd like to propose for incubation. I know new Incubator projects require a champion. As an ASF member myself, can I act as my own champion, or does another member need to act as champion on my behalf? It certainly

Private PPMC discussions and archives (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

On 11/04/2015 03:55 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur wrote: > One question on discussing candidature of a person for PPMC on private: > I know that private is only for PPMC, but I believe the new elected PPMC > can always get the digest for older messages (or not?). If that is the case > wouldn't it defeat