[DISCUSS] introduce "[DISCUSS]" threads for podling non-ASF release candidates

2019-02-25 Thread Myrle Krantz
Motivation: Some podlings want or need feedback on their releases before they are ready to make official Apache releases. They want to discuss releases that are not yet ready for a VOTE, or that they are not sure they are ready for a vote. They may wish to make an early release outside of the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.4.0.rc3

2019-02-25 Thread Hen
+1. I reviewed the diff with the RC2 that I approved, no concerns with anything added. Cc'ing other mentors. Hen On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:45 AM Piyush Ghai wrote: > Dear community, > > This is a call for releasing Apache MXNet (incubating) 1.4.0, release > candidate RC3. > > Apache MXNet

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.3.0-rc1

2019-02-25 Thread Christofer Dutz
Changing my vote to +1 (binding) I found the reason for the failing tests on Mac and Windows ... the root cause was the different locale and the way numeric values are encoded. In Germany we separate the 1000s with "." and the decimal part with "," and in the US it's the opposite way. If I

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread Kenneth Knowles
Done. Sorry for that oversight. Kenn On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:01 PM lee...@gmail.com wrote: > As primary author, can I be given the ability to directly edit? > On 2019/02/26 05:37:22, Kenneth Knowles wrote: > > It isn't too much work, so I've done it: > >

DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
As primary author, can I be given the ability to directly edit? On 2019/02/26 05:37:22, Kenneth Knowles wrote: > It isn't too much work, so I've done it: > https://s.apache.org/datasketches-proposal-draft > > Kenn > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:31 PM leerho wrote: > > > Yes, I thought of

Re: Welcome Wagon

2019-02-25 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Dave, IMO, the Incubator is the "welcome wagon". Unfortunately, it often greets new neighbors with a huge list of policies which is not welcoming. That makes the incubator more iike a bad Homeowner's Association from a movie. Or maybe a Boot Camp where only the tough survive and everyone

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
Thank you! On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:37 PM Kenneth Knowles wrote: > It isn't too much work, so I've done it: > https://s.apache.org/datasketches-proposal-draft > > Kenn > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:31 PM leerho wrote: > > > Yes, I thought of that. But it’s not like I’m being overwhelmed

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread Kenneth Knowles
It isn't too much work, so I've done it: https://s.apache.org/datasketches-proposal-draft Kenn On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:31 PM leerho wrote: > Yes, I thought of that. But it’s not like I’m being overwhelmed with > requests to comment ... so far it has been only 3 or 4, and the requested >

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
Yes, I thought of that. But it’s not like I’m being overwhelmed with requests to comment ... so far it has been only 3 or 4, and the requested changes have been minor. I’m assuming that if there are no more substantive changes after this week that the document would be moved to the wiki archive,

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread Jim Apple
You could use a Google account that is not under Yahoo’s control, then let anyone in the world add a comment, maybe. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:26 PM leerho wrote: > Ken, > Yahoo does not allow me to create a shared link outside our company, except > to individual email addresses. So attempting

Incubator release votes

2019-02-25 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Mick, I appreciate your taking time to document what you have experienced in the incubator. Apologies if these comments cross other discussions. It's hard to keep track of all the threads that have forked from the original discussion. > On Feb 24, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Mick Semb Wever wrote:

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
Adding individuals seems to be working. I was able to add k...@apache.org successfully, and he successfully added a comment. Casual readers can get the gist from the text version I inserted into this thread. Those that wish to make comments make a request via the link and I will add them. Will

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread Luciano Resende
Should we move the proposal to the incubator wiki then? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 15:26 leerho wrote: > Ken, > Yahoo does not allow me to create a shared link outside our company, except > to individual email addresses. So attempting to share it to the email > general@incubator.apache.org may

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
Ken, Yahoo does not allow me to create a shared link outside our company, except to individual email addresses. So attempting to share it to the email general@incubator.apache.org may not work. Nonetheless, several individuals were able to request access using their individual email accounts and

Re: DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread Kenneth Knowles
I could not access that document. I suggest you need to turn on link sharing. Kenn On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:00 PM lee...@gmail.com wrote: > Try this link: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19JKevzFQNcaLA51LFLUlP1hzdFDW7oDJrJO8N6weDv8/edit?usp=sharing > > > On 2019/02/25 05:55:50, leerho

DataSketches Proposal WRT Commons-Math

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
As your suggestion may come up again, I have addressed it by adding a small section to the proposal itself (in the Google Doc). On 2019/02/25 17:36:31, Ted Dunning wrote: > There is also the general question of whether it is better to be a > top-level project or to become a contribution to

Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I can also point to a few podlings that have jars in their source releases but these don’t have any real code in them.The exceptions mentioned in this thread are rare across the 250 top level and incubating projects we have and have been carefully considered. There’s not a single instance

DataSketches Proposal - Google Docs Link

2019-02-25 Thread leerho
Try this link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19JKevzFQNcaLA51LFLUlP1hzdFDW7oDJrJO8N6weDv8/edit?usp=sharing On 2019/02/25 05:55:50, leerho wrote: > Yes I will try that tomorrow. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:34 PM Kenneth Knowles wrote: > > > Can you share the Google doc with the

Welcome Wagon

2019-02-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - There has been mentions about lack of documentation, not being able to find documentation, not being responsible for a policy, and not including the rationale for a policy. This morning I remembered something that happened some 49 years ago when I was a child and we moved to the suburbs

Re: Starting at the incubator and releases

2019-02-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I agree with what Myrle wrote I wanted to focus on this paragraph which I think describes one of the major issues with the IPMC. > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:03 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > Also, our mentors were not always the most active, so it would have been > impossible for us to get a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cava into the Apache Incubator

2019-02-25 Thread Antoine Toulme
The vote for accepting "Cava" into the Apache Incubator passes* with 8 binding +1 votes, 7 non-binding +1 votes and no other votes. Thanks for voting! 8 binding +1 votes: Kevin A. McGrail Dave Fisher Byung-Gon Chun Jim Jagielski Furman Kamaci . Michael Wall Jean-Baptiste Onofré Gary Wang 7

Re: DataSketches Proposal

2019-02-25 Thread Ted Dunning
There is also the general question of whether it is better to be a top-level project or to become a contribution to commons math. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:56 PM leerho wrote: > Yes I will try that tomorrow. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:34 PM Kenneth Knowles wrote: > > > Can you share the

Re: Starting at the incubator and releases

2019-02-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi Mick, The ASF's official Release Policy lives here: https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy The policy text itself is up-to-date and authoritative. (The associated FAQ, also on that page, does not live up to the same standard.) On 2019/02/25 09:05:30, "Mick Semb Wever" wrote: >

Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Willem, It will help focus this discussion if you tell us what the binary artifacts are and why your normal build process doesn't already build them. Mark and Christopher described a couple of possible binary files and how to handle them. But it would be really useful for you to tell us

CHICAGO-ROADSHOW

2019-02-25 Thread Trevor Grant
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Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:28 PM Mark Thomas wrote: > > On 25/02/2019 14:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Mark Thomas wrote: > >> > >> On 23/02/2019 06:18, Willem Jiang wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I just have a question about the Binary jars in the source release.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.4.0.rc3

2019-02-25 Thread Piyush Ghai
Dear community, It will be great if members can test the release and vote. Thanks, Piyush On 2019/02/20 18:45:19, Piyush Ghai wrote: > Dear community,> > > This is a call for releasing Apache MXNet (incubating) 1.4.0, release > > candidate RC3. > > > Apache MXNet (incubating) community

Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Mark Thomas
On 25/02/2019 14:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Mark Thomas wrote: >> >> On 23/02/2019 06:18, Willem Jiang wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just have a question about the Binary jars in the source release. >>> According the Apache release policy, I cannot find any rule

Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Mark Thomas wrote: > > On 23/02/2019 06:18, Willem Jiang wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just have a question about the Binary jars in the source release. > > According the Apache release policy, I cannot find any rule about the > > binary jars cannot be in the source

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zipkin Brave (incubating) for Apache Karaf version 0.1.2

2019-02-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 (binding) Check the signatures, headers, and build. I saw some possible improvements (on the features, etc), I will propose my help directly to the podling. Regards JB On 23/02/2019 01:54, Adrian Cole wrote: > Hello All, > > This is a call for vote to release Apache Zipkin Brave

Re: Starting at the incubator and releases

2019-02-25 Thread Myrle Krantz
Hey Mick, I see some promise in the approach you outline. I'd like to explain the advantages my project drew from the current system, so that we don't lose anything important in the process of change. Then I would like to suggest a refinement of your approach. I'm top posting here, because I'm

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zipkin Brave (incubating) for Apache Karaf version 0.1.2

2019-02-25 Thread John D. Ament
+1 On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 19:54 Adrian Cole wrote: > Hello All, > > This is a call for vote to release Apache Zipkin Brave (incubating) > for Apache Karaf version 0.1.2 > > The Apache Zipkin community has voted on and approved a proposal to > release Apache Zipkin Brave (incubating) for Apache

Re: Binary jars in the source release which are only for testing

2019-02-25 Thread Mark Thomas
On 23/02/2019 06:18, Willem Jiang wrote: > Hi, > > I just have a question about the Binary jars in the source release. > According the Apache release policy, I cannot find any rule about the > binary jars cannot be in the source release[1]. If we just have jars > for testing purposes and those

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 for Jal Regards JB On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote: > Hi all, > > I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0]. > > At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for > the project [1]. > > Out of this initial thread, we have

Re: Starting at the incubator and releases

2019-02-25 Thread Mick Semb Wever
I'll chime in, but on the technical front my experience is rather new in the incubator, i'm still learning. > Looking at some of the situations we currently have I think we may need > some more general guidance for incubating projects and making releases > after just joining the incubator.