Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > While you've been going through the history and other docs: Does it actually > say somewhere that a true ASF release MUST NOT contain any non-compliance of > policy? Again I’m not sure why you’re talking about TLP policy on the incubator general list. But VP legal said as much the

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Alex Harui
While you've been going through the history and other docs: Does it actually say somewhere that a true ASF release MUST NOT contain any non-compliance of policy? Or is it possible that the communities must fix some non-compliance issues right away and can fix others later? Then it isn't

[RELEASE] WAS: [VOTE] (Re)Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) 1.0.0

2019-06-27 Thread Joshua Poore
Hi Everyone, The VOTE to (Re)Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) 1.0.0 has closed. The RESULT is: [9] +1, let’s get it released!! Joshua Poore Rob Foley Laura Mariano Michelle Beard (voted in private@) Michael Schrieber Arthi Vezhavendan Dave Meikle* Justin McLean* Jan Piotrowski*

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The Incubator itself is a PMC. OK that's sorted. > Now let's talk about podling releases... When the IPMC votes on accepting a > podling release, and it passes, my opinion is that the Incubator takes on the > resultant legal obligations associated w/ any PMC doing a release. Now the >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread larry mccay
Antoine - Thank you for your work getting the initial release done and patience here. As Dave said, we have our 3 +1's. thanks, --larry On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 6:15 PM Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:29 PM Craig Russell > wrote: > >... > > > No. Smiley face doesn't count. > >

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Only because IPMC said it must provide such votes. Can you provide a reference to that? I realise that may be hard to do so given it was so long ago. I searched and was unable to find where that happened in the the list history. The earliest reference I could find was this [1] (in

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:24 PM Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 7:57 AM Greg Stein wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:13 AM Justin Mclean > > > wrote: > > > > > > b) It listed as a TLP in Whimsy > > > > Whimsy is not canonical. Its label means absolutely nothing. Board > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:29 PM Craig Russell wrote: >... > No. Smiley face doesn't count. > Apparently you missed the point when Justin did that to me. Hmm? Of course it doesn't count. Why don't you go police th VP Incubator, okay? -g

[jira] [Closed] (INCUBATOR-240) Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org

2019-06-27 Thread Lee Rhodes (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-240?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Lee Rhodes closed INCUBATOR-240. Resolution: Fixed Wrong target, should have been INFRA.  (my mistake) > Setup initial redirect

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-240) Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org

2019-06-27 Thread Lee Rhodes (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-240?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16874525#comment-16874525 ] Lee Rhodes commented on INCUBATOR-240: -- Sorry, I thought I was setting it up as an INFRA issue. 

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Greg, > On Jun 27, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > Maybe I should say you're being an ass about the whole process. :-) No. Smiley face doesn't count. Stop. Craig > > -g Craig L Russell c...@apache.org

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 7:57 AM Greg Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:13 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > > b) It listed as a TLP in Whimsy > > Whimsy is not canonical. Its label means absolutely nothing. Board > decisions are canonical. The canonical source is:

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher
You have your 3 +1 Votes! We can discuss messaging on dev@tuweni > On Jun 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > I’m not quite sure what to do. If I don’t hear by tomorrow I’ll close this > vote as passing. > >> On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 27,

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Antoine Toulme
I’m not quite sure what to do. If I don’t hear by tomorrow I’ll close this vote as passing. > On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:34 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> I see a lot of "oh no. a bad file". What is the takeaway from that? "The

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Paul King
My +1 to the 2nd camp. For me it's about transparency. I don't see an issue if a podling release has some significant flaws. For me, the ideal would be if it is easy for podling members, reviewers, and downstream users to easily determine whether such flaws are known and what they are. It can be

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Druid (incubating) 0.15.0 released

2019-06-27 Thread Jihoon Son
The Apache Druid team is proud to announce the release of Apache Druid (incubating) 0.15.0. Apache Druid 0.15.0-incubating contains over 250 new features, performance/stability/documentation improvements, and bug fixes from 39 contributors. Major new features and improvements include: - New Data

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-240) Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-240?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16874279#comment-16874279 ] Dave Fisher commented on INCUBATOR-240: --- Lee, This should be an INFRA JIRA issue. Also, there

[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-240) Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org

2019-06-27 Thread Lee Rhodes (JIRA)
Lee Rhodes created INCUBATOR-240: Summary: Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org Key: INCUBATOR-240 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-240 Project:

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 6/24/19, 9:12 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: > >> What kinds of policy violations truly affect the legal shield if the >> non-compliance: > >You're asking the wrong question. You're still asking the TLP question. > > I'm

Re: [VOTE] (Re)Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) 1.0.0

2019-06-27 Thread Joshua Poore
Thanks, Jan. We’ll make good on comment, and have been watching issues IPMC has been raising with other podlings. We’ve integrated a lot of into our next release. Joshua Poore > On Jun 27, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Jan Piotrowski wrote: > > +1 > > I trust Justin's judgement here, and I'm sure

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:13 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Which would be a reasonable assumption give: > > a) That only IPMC votes are binding on releases. > Only because IPMC said it must provide such votes. I maintain it does not have to. The Board gave the Incubator the range/duty

Re: [VOTE] (Re)Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) 1.0.0

2019-06-27 Thread Jan Piotrowski
+1 I trust Justin's judgement here, and I'm sure you'll work out any issues with further releases. -J Am Do., 27. Juni 2019 um 06:14 Uhr schrieb Joshua Poore : > > Hi Folks, > > Another friendly reminder: please VOTE on the ReRelease of Apache Flagon > UserAle.js (Incubating) 1.0.0. > > Our

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:34 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I see a lot of "oh no. a bad file". What is the takeaway from that? "The > > IPMC thinks we should not release.” > > Has anyone voted -1? Nope. And even if they did a -1 vote is not a veto. > Great. Semantics. "But I didn't