Re: Proposal: Recording votes in podlings

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 3:30 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...Pro-tip from a freshly former board member: Many TLPs would consider > that interfering with their freedom to do wtftw ... That's if you wanted to make this a requirement, which I don't think it's needed. Presenting it as a best practice

Re: PMC is a committee

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:55 AM tison wrote: > > Now that no objection to using MPMC as an abbreviation, I file this draft > [1] so that we can improve the wording and start to spread the word. > > [1] https://github.com/apache/www-site/pull/388 ... Sorry that I am chiming in late here - I have co

Re: Bylaws != Guidelines

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 1:48 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > if you search the archives, you should be able to find conversations > about this And if someone does, it would be great to add the information and/or links to https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenServerless into the ASF incubator

On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:35 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > ...Following the discussion about OpenServerless [1], I'm starting a vote > to accept OpenServerless into the ASF incubator... +1 -Bertrand (Incubator PMC member) -

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 4:58 PM Michele Sciabarra wrote: > ...To my understanding, since there are other "serverless something" > trademarks, "Apache OpenServerless" should be acceptable, but here we need > support from trademark lawyers to be sure. So I opened the issue... +1, it's good to selec

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

Hi, On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:43 AM Francois Papon wrote: > ...We need to ask for a search about the project name... That's a requirement for exiting incubation, not for entering it, as per [1] . But it's good to have a name that doesn't need to change later, so checking now doesn't hurt. -Ber

Re: Is llvm exception allowed for incubator projects?

Hi Roman, On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:55 AM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...If you decide to distribute convenience binary artifact -- only then the > LLVM exception > will apply and it will be OK... Shouldn't that exception be mentioned at https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html ? I searched fo

Re: [VOTE] KIE proposal acceptance

Hi, Jason Porter wrote: > The proposal is available at [1]... I'm copying the proposal text here, we usually include it in vote threads for archiving purposes. -Bertrand *** KIE proposal *** Abstract KIE (Knowledge is Everything) is a community of solutions and supporting tooling for knowled

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove 72 hour waiting time to add PPMC members.

Le ven. 14 oct. 2022 à 15:24, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > ...Would we still have an option to intervene, if for example one PPMC bunch > adds people from the same company, for example? That should be reviewed at graduation time. A PPMC has no formal power, so cannot cause any harm to the Founda

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

Hi, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...will report here when the dev@ list is ready. The Baremaps dev list is now ready [1], use dev-subscr...@baremaps.apache.org to subscribe. -Bertrand [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@baremaps.apache.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 11:30, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ..The vote passes with more than 3 binding +1s, a few non-binding +1s > and no other votes... I should have included a link to the vote thread: https://lists.apache.org/thread/6qhbbdnvszpj2wwkcqb1xc05c81brw4r -Be

[RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

Le jeu. 6 oct. 2022 à 14:52, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...The [DISCUSS] thread on Baremaps [1] has slowed down, with no > objections AFAICS, so I'm calling a vote to accept Baremap into the > Apache incubator... The vote passes with more than 3 binding +1s, a few non-binding +1

Re: [VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...I'm calling a vote to accept Baremap into the > Apache incubator. >... +1, bring Baremap into the Incubator! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.

[VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

on and current ASF status: Bertil Chapuis (Heig-vd), Apache Committer, id: bchapuis Andrea Borghi (Camptocamp) James Smith (Heig-vd) Antoine Drabble (Heig-vd) Leonard Besseau (Hobbyist) Josh Fischer, Apache Committer, id: joshfischer Sponsors Champion Bertrand Delacretaz Mentors Martin Desru

Re: Proposal

Hi, Le ven. 20 mai 2022 à 00:33, m sacks a écrit : > > And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to > github if i understand correctly?... You can do that, and if you have plans to join the ASF later it's useful to take a look at [1] and ideally shape your emerging comm

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP

Hi, On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email > addresses in the graduation resolution... I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members asked for the resolutions to be modified to avoid

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-269) Podlings Guides menu is too long and does not scroll

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-269?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17395151#comment-17395151 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-269: --- I think an index

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 7:45 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...The branches are renamed: > > - status/projects > - status/ip-clearance > - status/clutch ... Great, thank you! Such prefixes will definitely help. -Bertrand - To unsubscri

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 2:43 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > Branches for a purpose are appropriate... Absolutely agreed! But (to me) on GitHub the role of each branch can be hard to figure out, so I think that needs to be explicitly documented. Using conventions for branch names might help, like websi

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

Hi Dave, On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:39 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...In Pelican we will have two branches for each directory... Just a quick comment on this: I often get crazy with repositories which use multiple branches "for production use" as they are often not discoverable. If you go this route

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

Hi Dave, On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:32 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I plan to complete the move of many of the files that are maintained by > projects > into an ASF-Pelican workflow like I recently completed for www.apache.org... https://github.com/apache/incubator is currently built using JBake, d

Re: Unable to access Incubator's web page

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:35 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...What we need is to add a check to the script to stop before committing to > the asf-site branch... Makes sense, https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/96 -Bertrand - To

Re: Unable to access Incubator's web page

Hi, On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:17 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: > ...There's currently an issue with the web site Jenkins job, in that it > relies on a jbake that isn't available any longer... For Sing we use the jbake-maven-plugin [1] which IIUC does not require more than Maven on the build node. Shal

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-266) Update the website redirect page of weex

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-266?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17358618#comment-17358618 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-266: --- In the meanti

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-266) Update the website redirect page of weex

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-266?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17358600#comment-17358600 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-266: --- Thank you for this

Re: JPMS Projects?

Hi, On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:22 AM Daniel Widdis wrote: > ...Regarding "Apache" = "Quality", I'd be careful. Apache asserts [1] a > maxim of "Community over code" FWIW, the Maturity Model at [1] emphasizes being honest about the quality of a project's modules (QU10). As mentioned there,

Re: JPMS Projects?

Hi, On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:08 AM leerho wrote: > ...I am seriously looking at *redesigning* our JDK8 Library using Java Modules > leveraging JDK16+/Panama/FMA and completely replacing the need for Unsafe, > etc. (Not just adapting our JDK8 code to run on JDK9+ and accessing Java > internals u

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Suitable Name Search Documentation

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:38 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I suggest that we eliminate everything that is on the Incubator page > that is a “duplicate" and point to the source of record... +1 and we should do that every time we see such duplicates. -Bertrand --

Re: Where to get feedback on a project before formulating a proposal

Hi Daniel, On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:15 AM Daniel Widdis wrote: > ...none of the documents states exactly how I am supposed to recruit a > champion > and mentors or where I should find them This list is a good place for that, and the starting point is indeed finding a champion. You might b

Re: Apache Training (incubating) granted all Apache committers commit rights

Hi, On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:59 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...We're opening up commit access to all Apache committers... Great! It would be nice to mention this at http://training.apache.org/ , in the "Getting involved" section maybe? -Bertrand --

Re: [DISCUSS] New builds server and who should access

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:31 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: ... > At the very least, allow PPMC members access to the folder for their project? > ... +1, like we do with other infrastructure bits, I think each podling should get their own build folder (if they need it), with access granted to all PPMC

Re: Issue with releases / feedback from ASF board

Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:44 AM Leonard Lausen wrote: > ...Does adding the following notice pior to any mentioning of a third-party > binary release work for clearly informing users?... I haven't followed all the details but IIUC what you are doing is linking to third-party packages that can

Re: Running clutch?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:58 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...Yeah, I found those via [1]. I'm assuming since running clutch locally > isn't mentioned it isn't needed (it errored out on my system and I was > trying to decide if I needed to fix it). Thanks! That's correct, and one can also start the

Re: Running clutch?

Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:37 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...After making a change to podlings.xml or projects/$podling.xml do I need to > rerun clutch or is everything handled within jenkins now?.. As per https://github.com/apache/incubator the Clutch build runs once a day, https://builds.apa

Re: [VOTE] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph Extension

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:12 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > We would like to propose AgensGraph Extension as an Apache incubator project. > As such, I am calling a VOTE... +1 with the understanding that the name will be changed before creating infrastructure. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:30 AM David Nalley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:55 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > ...I’d suggest that if this is a know issue, that a different name be > > selected before entering incubation, as name changes cost Infra time and > > effort. > I'd wholeheartedly a

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

Hi, On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:10 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > ...And an interesting observation is that, the AgensGraph project changed the > license to AGPL in the past and then after several month changed back to AL > 2.0... FWIW, I don't think these changes make a difference in terms of entering

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > The proposal can be found here: > o > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AgensGraphExtension ... +1, interesting project IMO and proposal looks good to me! -Bertrand ---

Re: "Fork Me" on GitHub (was Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ShardingSphere (incubating) as a TLP)

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:27 AM Harbs wrote: > ...The compromise which seemed acceptable to most in that thread seems to be > to remove “GitHub” from the link... On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:46 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...The problem is that "fork" means two different things, and that some > mem

Re: [MENTORS] https://www.apache.org/dist/ has been deprecated

Hi, On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:15 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > The new URL to use is https://downloads.apache.org. ... FWIW, https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/more-secure-and-robust-downloads has more info. -Bertrand - To unsub

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17041748#comment-17041748 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-250: --- Thank you! It woul

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17041095#comment-17041095 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-250: --- The content of h

[jira] [Updated] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Bertrand Delacretaz updated INCUBATOR-250: -- Description: Recent builds are failing at https://builds.apache.org/view/H

[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

Bertrand Delacretaz created INCUBATOR-250: - Summary: Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing Key: INCUBATOR-250 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250 Project

Re: [IP Clearance] OpenWhisk - wskdebug

Hi, On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 4:07 PM David P Grove wrote: >... The IP Clearance form can be found at > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/openwhisk-wskdebug.html It looks like the website build is having issues (I'll report on that separately), the source XML file has the up-to

Re: Hooray! DataSketches website is now completely moved!

Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:42 PM leerho wrote: > .-.Many thanks to Joonsuk Bae and Drew Foulks of the Infra team, our website > is now completely moved and being > dynamically updated!... Great, and the website looks nice and informative! I think it would be

Re: eliminating MD5 and SHA1 signatures

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:51 PM leerho wrote: > ...either the Maven deploy plugin or the repository always adds > MD5 and SHA1 signatures as well... FWIW, we'd like to stop using MD5 but I don't think we're there yet, the following URLs have more info: http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribut

Re: Incubator PMC members not subscribed to private list

Hi Justin, On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:01 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Here the subjected text of the email to be sent out, feedback welcome:.. Looks good to me with two suggestions for clarity: > ...The IPMC is considering removing all IPMC members that have not signed up > to the private list...

Re: Incubator PMC members not subscribed to private list

Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Do we want to consider the drastic step of removing all IPMC from the PMC > who are not signed > up to the private mailing list? They could re-instated themselves by > subscribing to the private list... That would work for me, after

Re: [VOTE] Accept YuniKorn into Apache Incubator

Hi, On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:47 PM Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote: > I'd like to call a vote on accepting YuniKorn into the Apache Incubator... +1 I'm copying the proposal text below, we usually do that to get complete mail archives. -Bertrand YuniKorn proposal Abstract YuniKorn is a stand

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-248) Incubation Overview page not found (404 error)

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-248?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17000851#comment-17000851 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-248: --- That part of

Re: [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache Druid graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:55 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > ...Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache Druid should graduate > to a Top Level Project.. +1 (binding) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr..

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

Hi, On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 7:45 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > ...I have a request to add Abdelatif GUETTOUCHE > as an initial committer as well.. The proposal shouldn't be modified once the vote starts, but note that it's easy to add committers once the podling is established. Being an initial commi

Re: [VOTE] Accept NuttX into the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:30 AM 俊平堵 wrote: > ...I would like to call a VOTE to accept NuttX into the > Apache Incubator... Enthusiastic +1 (binding) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org Fo

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:39 AM Greg Stein wrote: > > I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems > on-board. Let them get their stuff done... Yes! Many thanks to Greg Nutt for your comments, to me this project looks ready to enter incubation, with some adjustments requir

Re: Incubator cookbook: Podling Releases update

Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:47 PM Craig Russell wrote: > ...I believe that the current cookbook recommendations need an update. [1] ... Thank you Craig and others for these suggestions, I have incorporated them as follows: -Added a new "Two-phase vote on Podling Releases" to keep the cookbook

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:20 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > > ...IMO, the name 'NuttX' is a kudos to Gregory Nutt, who has been > developing and maintaining the project for 15 years... I'm fine with having such a name for historical reasons and I agree that it's nice to recognize the hard work of the p

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 6:16 PM Ted Dunning wrote: > ...As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation right > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries... IMHO having a low bus factor is a concern for *exiting* incubation. I don't see it as a proble

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:56 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...It might be OK with just a software grant from you if are the > copyright owner. Any other IPMC member have an opinion?... I think when Groovy joined Apache a few of its community members signed the software grant "on behalf of the Groovy

Re: Incubator cookbook: Podling Releases update

Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:47 PM Craig Russell wrote: > ...2. Votes on the dev list should automatically carry over to the general > list... I disagree with making this automatic. It's fine for whoever starts the IPMC vote to indicate that dev list votes carry over, including a link to thos

Re: [VOTE] Accept StreamPipes into the Apache Incubator

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:00 PM Dominik Riemer wrote: > [X ] +1, bring StreamPipes into the Incubator.. With 5 mentors for 5 initial committers you should be well taken care of ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-u

Re: [DISCUSS] Host Dynamic Content on Apache Sever?

Hi, On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:33 AM 申远 wrote: >... Is there a way to migrate such dynamic content to https://weex.apache.org >?.. A project can get virtual machines, not sure what the current flavor of that is but https://www.apache.org/dev/services#virtual-servers mentions FreeBSD jails and Ubu

Re: Omid and Tephra

Hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write > access... >From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to confirm and doc

Re: [VOTE] Accept TubeMQ into the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:48 AM David Nalley wrote: > ...I would like to call a VOTE to accept TubeMQ into the > Apache Incubator +1, binding -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Donation of subproject for PLC4X

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 10:52 AM Lars Francke wrote: > ...while a name search is not necessary I'm sure you're aware that there's > already an Apache Crunch project which _might_ confuse people... Good point, thanks! While a formal podling name search is not needed, it's of course a good idea to

Re: Podling proposal pages

Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:59 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > I'm thinking of removing this page (and links to it) as it’s incomplete and > what is says > could give the wrong impression. [3] .. +1 to removing, I think https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ has sufficient info about entry into the

Re: Donation of subproject for PLC4X

Hi, On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:59 PM Julian Feinauer wrote: > my company decided to donate our project CRUNCH [1] that has been developed > internally to the ASF > ...We need to find a name and go through namesearch, or?... No, that's only for Apache PMCs which need to have a suitable name.

Re: Incubator policy wording

Hi Justin, On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:26 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > I reorganised the policy pages and that can be seen here. [1] Thanks! > ..The next task which I think would be useful to to simply that language on > that page... I have slightly reworked the beginning and added a link to the c

Re: Feedback on board report / incubator release proposal

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:30 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...No issue from me if you want to change the proposal to use this wording... Ok, I have updated the "proposal" section as above, with a minor tweak, "acceptable for such non-compliant incubating releases" -Bertrand ---

Re: Cookbook and duplication of content on incubator site

Hi Justin, Thank you for addressing this, I was planning to work on this duplication of content but didn't get to it yet. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:44 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > With the cookbook added [1] I suggest that we remove this page: > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/process.html +1

Re: Feedback on board report / incubator release proposal

Hi Justin, On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:38 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Here's a slightly updated version of that original proposal. [1].. Thank you for this, great summary! I have added a "summary" intro paragraph, fixed a few typos, simplified one phrase and suggest the following text to replace

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > Incubator PMC objects... I have merged that now, thanks for the comments and contributions there, the content is now live at http://incubator

Re: Board@ subscriptions

Hi Tom, On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:38 PM Tom Barber wrote: > ...Quick protocol question as the board isn’t fit for purpose and I’m fed up > of it clogging up my inbox Requiring subject line tags like [chairs] on board@ might help tremendously in keeping the traffic manageable by PMC chairs, i

[VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

Hi, As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" a

Re: New disclaimer text

Hi, On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:06 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > - Keep the existing one called as it is... And have it mention the possible additional disclaimers, as DISCLAIMER-* maybe. >... Name the new one something like DISCLAIMER-PERMISSIVE, DISCLAIMER-ISSUES, > DISCLAIMER-INITIAL, or DISCLAIME

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:05 PM Dave Grove wrote: > ...This vote passed with with 6 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes... Ouch, and I missed voting! Here's my belated enthusiastic +1 ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-

Re: New Project?

Hi, On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:28 PM Alejandro Caceres wrote: > ...I've been looking at a lot of resources to how > best to submit this to Apache... Note that http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ might have useful information as well. -Bertrand --

Re: New disclaimer text

Hi, On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:39 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]... Basically just adding this, right? > Some of the project releases may not follow ASF policy or have > incomplete or unknown licensing conditions It works fo

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

Hi, On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke wrote: > ...Projects wishing to join the ASF as a TLP would then at some point need to > abide by the rules (some of which probably also don't make sense but that's > a different discussion) but until then Mentors could just provide hints... Note

Re: Incubation Pain Points

Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:58 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I wonder if we agree on the Core issue?... To me the core issue, as I said in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread is that the Incubator is perceived as a stern gatekeeper of the ASF, due to the way we act in general. To fix this I sug

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote: > ...This vote is *confirming* that > nobody has objections (of any form) to Zipkin leaving and control of the > git repos being transferred... I agree and this means that in this case a [LAZY] vote would have been sufficient. -Bertrand ---

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein wrote: > ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC... IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal is to *provide services to podlings so they can become top-level ASF Projects". Currently, many things in

Re: Incubation Pain Points

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:44 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > >...at the Incubator level I think there's > > way to many unclear or badly documented rules. > > Nope, sorry that’s at the ASF level I agree, the mess is on both sides ;-) -Bertrand -

Re: Incubation Pain Points

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means" > is the job of the Champion, no?... I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not oral tradition as that does not scale. http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook

Re: Incubation Pain Points

Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:10 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...Here are some thoughts I have to improving Incubation FWIW, to give additional context for ASF Members, there was also a discussion about this started by Incubator PMC members, on the board@ list: http://s.apache.org/zipkin_mentors_

Re: Incubation Pain Points

Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:24 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...We have to make them understand that the ASF is more than a GIT repo, CI > Server and Mailing lists. > That the ASF has great things to provide (Legal Shield, Marketing, Infra, > ...) but that this only works > If you play along w

Re: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin

> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:22 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and > > return back to OpenZipkin. +1 -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apa

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 12:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...IOW, base those exceptions on a strictly managed list of acceptable > issues... And add the URL of that list to the DISCLAIMER, so users know what to expect. -Be

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:53 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > I think that serious = release blocker; >...People / podlings have requested that release blockers be allowed in >podling releases... Ok, "release blocker" says much more to me than "serious issues" to which I objected as being too v

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Training - Navigating the ASF Incubator Process 1.0 (incubating)

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 5:10 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...We have 2 IPMC votes, and only require one more +1 IPMC vote +1 for the release of SHA512(apache-training-navigating-ASF-incubation-1.0-incubating.tar.gz)= b67d311cb553f5aec784187f65e85e173da276fea13d9a810e8e340ff11af77afb79e1a8accc74b

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 6:36 PM Rodric Rabbah wrote: > ...I don't have a diversity profile per employer. I can try to gather that. Do > you have a suggestion for the easiest way to do this? Maybe infra has some > tools?... Note that the ASF doesn't require people to disclose their company or

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

Hi Kevin, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:29 PM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >... I would urge you to see the lengthy thread on the matter... I won't - if the proposal implies disclaimers, tickets etc. those conditions should be included in the proposal, such that a single URL provides all the required info

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenWhisk API Gateway (v0.10.0-incubating, rc2)

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:44 PM David P Grove wrote: > ...We now ask IPMC members to review this release candidate and vote > accordingly... +1, verified as follows: ./rcverify.sh openwhisk-apigateway 'OpenWhisk API Gateway' 0.10.0-incubating rc2 rcverify.sh (script SHA1: 6871 208F 37F8 2352 BA60

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js v1.14.0 (incubating)

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 11:37 AM James Thomas wrote: > ...This is a call for vote to release Apache OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js > v1.14.0 (incubating) ... +1, verified as follows: ./rcverify.sh openwhisk-runtime-nodejs 'OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js' 1.14.0-incubating rc2 rcverify.sh (script SHA1: 6871

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:22 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I assume from your response that you disagree with the proposal or want it > modified? If so how?... I don't think it's reasonable to allow releases with "serious" issues. But let's see what the Board thinks. -Bertrand --

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 8:46 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...The proposal can be found in the draft board report. [1]... If I was on the Board I don't think I would accept making releases "with serious issues in them" as mentioned there. Maybe I missed the discussion - what I would find accepta

Re: Podling reports due Wednesday

Hi, On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 2:04 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Mentors don’t forget your podlings reports are due on Wednesday I was going to ask "where" and found https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 which IIUC is the right place. I suppose the table of links at http

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:27 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I'm not sure the board will be viewing the results of the markdown but > just the raw text???... I think you need plaintext for the Board report but my idea was to get that by copying and pasting the output of the Markdown conversion: -S

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

Hi, On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:19 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Reflow so that they are human readable is a little hard to write down. :-) > Mostly it because of the wide > variation of formatting podlings submit their reports ... Doesn't the new Markdown format help with that? I experimented a b

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

Hi, On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:46 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...It’s still unclear to me how Whimsy will render this, guess we find out > when we submit it?.. I think the core of the Board agenda is the text file in svn, that's what needs to be clean AFAIK. -Bertrand --

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