Re: incubation process for open development open source projects [WAS Re: Glasgow - community? specs? other issues?]

2006-08-06 Thread Igor Vaynberg
personally i am fine with "incubation takes as long as it takes" statement. it is your organization and it is up to you whether or not you want to let the project into the incubator and into graduation. i also understand the "need to observe open development style on apache ground" argument. what

Re: Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)

2006-08-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
though we were in the incubator for a short time ( lets say a month ) it will not be blocked just because of its timeframe. thanks, -Igor On 8/9/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Igor Vaynberg wrote: > personally i am fine with "incubation takes as long as it takes&

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
in wicket we use irc quiete a lot. we dont post all transcripts to the list because in general they are too noisy to be of any use to anyone. we do have them available for browsing on the web [1] though. we also have a search engine that indexes our mailing list, wiki, irc logs, and a few select w

Re: Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)

2006-08-10 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 8/10/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip bootstrapping a user list is discouraged. any users coming through the apache site should be directed to the developer list during the transitionary period whilst the incubator project is being bootstrapped. (this does take some t

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
+1 :) -Igor On 8/28/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome Wicket! Thanks a lot everyone! Looking forward to start incubation. Eelco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the original subject, CWiki does seem to be partially 'hidden' at > Apache - I've tried to help, in terms of a patch to add it to the list > of services documented at http://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#wiki > (still waiting to be lo

Re: wikis

2006-11-09 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional > organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable and > maintained infra

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Igor Vaynberg
* release elsewhere, making sure to give things an appropriately different name and making sure both users and the incubator PMC understand what it all means and what is going on imho, i would much rather see wicket-1.2.2 rather then wicket-incubating-1.2.2 as a release. to me incubating

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Igor Vaynberg
one issue that we are forgetting here and that needs to be mentioned is that wicket 2.0 requires jdk5 while 1.x is jdk1.4. so im not sure how viable of an option it is to freeze the featureset of 1.3 and only add bugfixes. a good chunk of our community cannot migrate to jdk5 and we have promised t

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Igor Vaynberg
we have updated the versions section of our proposal to reflect this. please review and lets discuss, basically we would like to incubate 1.3 as well as 2.0. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WicketProposal -Igor On 7/31/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You summarized my though

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Igor Vaynberg
hi Ross, great to hear you are enjoying wicket so much but i also hope you realize 2.0 is pre-alpha and is a moving target api-wise. hope you like refactoring :) -Igor On 7/31/06, Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On 7/26/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i am getting a lot of mixed messages here. we have been told that -incubating is nothing more then a tag that the project is in the incubator and does not at all reflect the quality of the release nor its readiness for production use, but following is the opposite view taken from the maven2 repo t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Igor Vaynberg
to our existing userbase while maintaining a single infrastructure for the project to have as-low-as-possible maintenance overhead. so i think if we work that out - and we did outline our thoughts in the wiki proposal - i think we will be good to go. -Igor On 7/31/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTEC