Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] HTrace for Apache Incubator

2014-11-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Le 3 nov. 2014 22:06, Stack st...@duboce.net a écrit : On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO jeano...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, wondering how to get the Apache Sirona community involved or if there is a possible common road where the 2 projects could join. How do you see

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Johnzon 0.1-incubating release

2014-10-02 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Awesome, thank you so much Hendrik Le jeudi 2 octobre 2014, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com a écrit : Thanks for everybody's input. This vote passed with at least 4 binding votes from Romain Manni-Bucau, Justin Mclean and Mark Struberg, Daniel Kulp and no -1 votes. We'll move forward

Re: Reviewing license / notice and bundled software

2014-07-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi doesn't http://creadur.apache.org/ helps? I in particular thinks to http://creadur.apache.org/tentacles/ If there is no bundle it doesn't solve the whole issue but that's our code so we can enhance it to support maven more deeply. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http

Re: Reviewing license / notice and bundled software

2014-07-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
I guess it is about mvn dependency:tree analysis. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-07-17 16:17 GMT+02:00 Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Romain Manni-Bucau joins the IPMC

2014-07-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi, thank you very much. Well surprising not sure but I love Open Source, car races and having fun (and drinks) when meeting asf guys ;) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-09 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 08:40PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi guys, To follow the incubator process and after the previous discuss thread here is the formal proposal mail. Feel free to comment it! Apache Fleece Proposal Abstract Apache Fleece

[RESULT][VOTE] fleece as new incubator project

2014-06-09 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Haischt - John D. Ament - Henry Saputra - Mattmann, Chris A - Jake Farrell - Roman Shaposhnik - Arvind Prabhakar - David Blevins - Romain Manni-Bucau Congrats to all involved! Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-06 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi guys, do I need to cancel this thread and create a new one cause I changed the proposal content according your remarks? Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau

[VOTE] fleece as new incubator project

2014-06-06 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
and potentially all JSon users of Apache. Initial committers - Romain Manni-Bucau (individual, ASF) - Jean-Louis Monteiro (individual, ASF) - Mark Struberg (individual, ASF member) - Gerhard Petracek (individual, ASF member) - David Blevins (individual, ASF member) - Sagara Gunathunga

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-06 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Great :) Normally pushed the vote thread some minutes ago, hope it is fine :) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-06 9:56 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: [VOTE] fleece as new incubator project

2014-06-06 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hehe, good catch, not sure we need to reroll the vote for this typo, think we don't, isn't it? Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-06 10:29 GMT+02:00

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-04 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Fixed in the original proposal Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-04 13:00 GMT+02:00 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de: +1 With the aforementioned hint

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Should be ok now Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 15:17 GMT+02:00 Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org: If Fleece is decided as the name, you can

[PROPOSAL] json as new incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
potentially miss and send the [PROPOSAL] if possible Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 15:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org: I’m pretty sure

[PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
will be composed of TomEE community for sure, hopefully CXF and potentially all JSon users of Apache. Initial committers - Romain Manni-Bucau (individual, ASF) - Jean-Louis Monteiro (individual, ASF) - Mark Struberg (individual, ASF member) - Gerhard Petracek (individual, ASF member

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Jake, thanks, updated the doc. You mean migrating over dev@incubator? Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 20:59 GMT+02:00 Jake Farrell jfarr

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hmm think users@ can be used quickly. Is it really an issue? Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 23:12 GMT+02:00 Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project

2014-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Ok removed it. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 23:42 GMT+02:00 Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org: Looking at the current incubating projects only

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-06-01 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hello Sagara, Updated, thanks. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 9:06 GMT+02:00 Sagara Gunathunga sagara.gunathu...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jun 1

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-06-01 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
a new state machine it will be very nice) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-06-01 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn

[DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-05-31 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi guys, Started to write a proposal to create a project to implement JSR-353 (json API). Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). Any feedbacks welcomed too. Romain Manni-Bucau

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-05-31 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Justing, thanks for the catch! I updated the page and added yourself as Mentor. About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https

Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project

2014-05-31 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
) and maintenance period without that much activity. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:56 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com: Romain, Can you

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi David not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com

Re: [VOTE] BatchEE as an incubated project

2013-10-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
And here is my +1 I'll prepare the result mail. *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau

[RESULT][VOTE] BatchEE as an incubated project

2013-10-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Lessen *Non-Binding +1 Votes:* Rahul Sharma Jean-Louis Monteiro Romain Manni-Bucau Congrats to all involved! Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
works for me too *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/10/3 Olivier Lamy ol

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-01 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
. From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning. Lets see if there are more names the next days. Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: Why not CoMon? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer

[VOTE] BatchEE as an incubated project

2013-09-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
and unifies the using of these projects. It simplifies the developer effort for building complex enterprise applications batches. === Core Developers === BatchEE project has been developing by the IBM then forked by Romain Manni-Bucau as a sole contributor. === Alignment === BacthEE project

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-27 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi guys, thanks to the last mail of Matt do you think I can start a VOTE for this proposal? If not what is missing? *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-24 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
, but we need to check this more in detail. From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning. Lets see if there are more names the next days. Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: Why not CoMon? Remind commons

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-20 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
: Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com : Hi Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we want and well use ;) Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-19 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Discussing with a colleague he proposed me another name: EasyBatch. Personally I like BatchEE but EasyBatch sounds quite fun even if maybe too close to RestEasy ;) wdyt? Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-19 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Ok guys, if I have 2 others +1 I update the proposal ;) (I think you are right, that's why i proposed it) *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-19 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
hehe right. thks *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/9/19 Matt Benson gudnabr

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Added you! Will not be excuses but investment ;) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Added you , thks Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/18 Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org: Sounds interesting. Add me as mentor if needed. Cheers

perms on wiki

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi, anyone can give me permissions to edit the wiki please? (i would like to create a proposal) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau

Re: perms on wiki

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hmm, seems i'm blocked (i tested apache and jira accounts probably too much times). i would like rmannibucau but not sure it is created. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com

Re: perms on wiki

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Here is my account login: RomainMannibucau Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/17 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Hmm, seems i'm blocked (i

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Scott said me this needs more discussion and I hope it will lead to a positive answer but it doesn't prevent us to go ahead I think Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com

Re: perms on wiki

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Great thanks! Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/17 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: i just added you Am 17.09.13 09:51, schrieb Romain Manni

[PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
=== BatchEE project has been developing by the IBM then forked by Romain Manni-Bucau as a sole contributor. === Alignment === BacthEE project will be a candidate for use in Geronimo AS and TomEE as a default JBatch implementation. Other projects could benefit from the BatchEE project as a general purpose

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
added you, thks Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/17 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net: It sounds interesting. I would be pleased to work as mentor

Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache

2013-09-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Added you as initial committer. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/17 Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org: hi romain, i would be ready to help

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-09-16 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi, Now Scott informed us we can fork the RI ( http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/Re-DISCUSS-jbatch-impl-Apache-td36529.html) is it ok to start to write a proposal? Le 30 août 2013 15:23, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi added some few modules: * shiro

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
, otherwise I would step up as one. Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar (Olivier spoke about it first) Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the GUI stuff. I would like to see

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too ;). But im not so extremist that i looked :p Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com a écrit : Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: Hi Angular is great but i hope well keep

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
I saw both and in particular plain text or html (i was surprised too), the robot was not parsing anything Le 15 sept. 2013 18:03, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com a écrit : Am 15.09.13 15:56, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
will integrate it deeply with other Apache project (tomee, jbatch impl maybe) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
values? Thanks, Tammo On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences: 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges 3) we

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-08-30 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
feedback + help to go ahead would be perfect *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/8/27

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-08-27 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Great to here, i plan to create a fork (maybe copy is more appropriated here) on my github for the end of this week (hopefully) then we can maybe discuss around it, does it work for you? *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-08-27 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
it should be green in java 6 or 7) *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/8/27 Andy Van

[DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-08-26 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
plan would be to fork their code and clean/update it and create a community around it. About it i have some questions: 1) does it sound good? 2) any interested people? 3) how to process exactly? *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau https://twitter.com/rmannibucau* *Blog: **http

Re: [DISCUSS] jbatch impl @Apache?

2013-08-26 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
, Alan On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:01 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As you probably know JavaEE 7 proposes a new spec called JBatch (aka JSR 352). I'd love to see an implementation @Apache. There is ATM only one implementation (spring-batch doesn't pass

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