Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-18 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org: Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;) Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase! Thanks! This gives us enough PMC members to satisfy the board's need. Can I now start the vote for Celix

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org: Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;) Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase! Thanks! This gives us

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-17 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-16 15:52 GMT+02:00 Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.eu: A simple solution to that is for at least one of the mentors to stay on the new PMC, would one of them agree to do that? It doesn't mean you have to be very active, but at least stay there just in case. Since I

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-17 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-16 18:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.eu wrote: Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I would like to stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-17 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-16 21:43 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org: I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I like the dynamics of it. I am sure the community will grow as the time goes. In my opinion, it worth moving it into TLP. I will be happy to help the project moving forward if my help is

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-17 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;) Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase! Cos On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 08:35AM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote: 2014-06-16 21:43 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org: I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-16 0:36 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net: On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points: * in general, for a smaller project

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012: ... People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need at least five active PMC members at graduation time, so as to get three votes when

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Bertrand, On 16 Jun 2014, at 8:57 am, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012: ... People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Marcel, On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.eu wrote: ...Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I would like to stay involved... Fantastic! Thanks. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.eu wrote: Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I would like to stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the graduation proposal and add me. I am exactly in the same

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I like the dynamics of it. I am sure the community will grow as the time goes. In my opinion, it worth moving it into TLP. I will be happy to help the project moving forward if my help is required. Cos On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 07:06AM, Alexander Broekhuis

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2014 08:56, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-16 0:36 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net: On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate given the overall project size. That

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-16 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-16 23:32 GMT+02:00 sebb seb...@gmail.com: During incubation PPMC members are not allowed to vote if they are not part of the IPMC. That is not quite true; anyone is allowed to vote, even non-PPMC members. However only IPMC member votes count towards a *release* vote. That is of

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-15 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points: * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage folks to consider PMC ==

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-14 Thread Marcel Offermans
+1 from me on that as well (as one of the other mentors of the project). As I said already when this was discussed within the Celix community, I think that, although small, the community is slowly growing, they have demonstrated that they know how to do releases, discuss things on the mailing

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-14 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 13 Jun 2014, at 17:32 pm, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Celix Project: * Alexander Broekhuis

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-14 Thread abiola balogun
Ok Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 26 Heisei, at 5:32, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very robust community that is also slowly growing.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-14 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi Roman, Alexander, Marcel; On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: * if anybody actually had prior examples of board raising it as an issue, I'd appreciate seeing pointers to the discussions Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012:

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-13 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Celix Project: * Alexander Broekhuis

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-13 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi, 2014-06-14 0:17 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-12 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hello incubator folks, Can someone please take a look at this proposal? 2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com: Hi All, Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very robust community that is also slowly growing. Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for a general@ vote. Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello incubator

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-09 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi All, Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and new committers have been added. Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation have been ticked of [1]. This