Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-05 Thread Ian Luo
Willem, cannot agree with you any more. It is not a rocket science as you said. It's in fact just an engineering practice. We will keep improving it and make sure everyone follows it. Cheers, -Ian. On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:46 PM Willem Jiang wrote: > I'm happy to see the common Dubbo release

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-02 Thread Willem Jiang
I'm happy to see the common Dubbo release practices could guide other incubating project. It's not a rocket science, we just need pay more attentions on the first and second around release to setup right release procedure and building scripts. Please make sure the team member aware of this guide

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-02 Thread Willem Jiang
Yeah, it's a good plan that the experienced PPMC can help other new project members. We just need to make sure it's on the good track. It's good to see Dubbo is near graduation by the way. Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:33 PM Huxing Zhang wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-01 Thread Ian Luo
We have a concrete release guide [1] to guide team to perform an apache release. @adrianfcole tweet this: I am always referencing #dubbo's Apache release guide. It probably needs to > move to be..Apache's release guide. But I like your idea of a release manager team. We will have much more

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-01 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang wrote: > > As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it > could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are > following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this? I was thinking about this.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-05-01 Thread Willem Jiang
As there are some new subproject join the dubbo project. I think it could be a challenge to make sure all these new sub projects are following the Apache release rules. Did you have any plan to do this? Maybe a release manager team could help the new committer to do the first few release check.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-30 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi community, It looks like all the questions and concerns have been cleared. If there is no other comments, I am planning to start the formal vote tomorrow. -- Best Regards! Huxing - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Huxing Zhang & Jun Liu Thanks to both of you. Clear these things quickly. I think I am good now. Wish the Dubbo project will graduate soon. Good luck. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin Twitter, wusheng1108 Huxing Zhang 于2019年4月29日周一 下午5:50写道: > Hi, > > I have

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Jun Liu
Hi, Sheng & Huxing All these repos under my personal Github id has already been donated to ASF since incubation. I think they are just backups at that time, now we all work on https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website, I even forgot their existence. I will delete the following repos

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, I have summarized it here: Dubbo code base: https://github.com/alibaba/dubbo has been transferred to https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo Spring Boot Support: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-spring-boot-project has been transferred to

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:18 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > > Are you planning to invite the authors to the PPMC? I didn’t find any > discussions on that using some basic searching. > > Yes. I think the community should discuss this. Please see my previous thread to answer this. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi I am just asking the question about the repo in the proposal. Because all repo(s) in the proposal should have been moved into ASF. Could you add the status of all repo in your WIKI page? Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin Twitter, wusheng1108 Huxing Zhang 于2019年4月29日周一

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:29 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi > Branding issues should be improved now. No concern for that. > > But, I have a question, which also needs the Dubbo community to clear. > > In the Dubbo incubator proposal[1], there are several repositories > in Initial Source > -

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:33 AM Matt Sicker wrote: > > Are you planning to invite the authors to the PPMC? I didn’t find any > discussions on that using some basic searching. No. How to give the right permission to the authors of the projects has been discussed here[1]. I have quoted below:

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Sheng Wu
> Are you planning to invite the authors to the PPMC? I didn’t find any discussions on that using some basic searching. Yes. I think the community should discuss this. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin Twitter, wusheng1108 Matt Sicker 于2019年4月29日周一 上午5:33写道: > Are you

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Branding issues should be improved now. No concern for that. But, I have a question, which also needs the Dubbo community to clear. In the Dubbo incubator proposal[1], there are several repositories in Initial Source - https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book-en [archieved in chickenlj[2]

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-29 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Sorry, I copy the wrong link. > - https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book-en [archieved in chickenlj[2] personal repo] In the proposal, it is https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-dev-book-en >- https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-admin-book-en [archieved in chickenlj personal repo] In the

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-28 Thread Matt Sicker
Are you planning to invite the authors to the PPMC? I didn’t find any discussions on that using some basic searching. On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 10:05, Huxing Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > I am wrapping the latest update from Dubbo community. > > - The avator of dubbo[1] group has been deleted > - The

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-28 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, I am wrapping the latest update from Dubbo community. - The avator of dubbo[1] group has been deleted - The description of dubbo group has been rename as Eco System For Apache Dubbo - A new group called thubbo[2] has been created - All projects under dubbo group are renamed in

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-25 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:10 PM Ian Luo wrote: > > Dave & Others, > > This "3rd party" site (https://github.com/dubbo) is used for building > Dubbo's eco-system. Just as you said, It contains both the projects which > will be donated and which may not, so the final goal for this "3rd party"

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-25 Thread Ian Luo
Dave & Others, This "3rd party" site (https://github.com/dubbo) is used for building Dubbo's eco-system. Just as you said, It contains both the projects which will be donated and which may not, so the final goal for this "3rd party" site is pretty clear: it will contain and only contain projects

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
> I think that rather than quickly responding by fixing various issues in an ad hoc manner it would be good to present the long term plan and then agree on the needed language on the “3rd party site” Agree with Dave. Dubbo community has time to discuss, fix and catch up the next meeting. Most of

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - (With trademark committee hat) Trademark resources can all be found from here: Trademark resources sitemap: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources PMC responsibility: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility Improper third party uses:

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Ian Luo
Jan, you may need to start from https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs . Regards, -Ian. On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:29 PM Jan Piotrowski wrote: > Semi OT: > Could somebody point me to Apache documentation that indicates that > such use of names of Apache projects is not ok? I might need

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi > Could somebody point me to Apache documentation that indicates that such use of names of Apache projects is not ok? I might need that information soon-ish myself, thanks. I used to read this from incubator discussions. Zipkin and SkyWalking were facing that question. Could someone help

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Semi OT: Could somebody point me to Apache documentation that indicates that such use of names of Apache projects is not ok? I might need that information soon-ish myself, thanks. -J Am Mi., 24. Apr. 2019 um 17:07 Uhr schrieb Sheng Wu : > > Hi, > > 4. We plan to rename all projects in this

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Ian Luo
> > If yes, this release dist should be renamed. SkyWalking used to be asked > stop in the same case. > For the artifacts already having published, I don't think we can do more, but we will make sure the future publish will have the correct name, say: node-client-for-apache-dubbo.js. So now let's

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi, 4. We plan to rename all projects in this organization to > xxx-for-apache-dubbo The rename makes sense for ecosystem projects, especially for these three. I also used to see the traditional rename to xxx-for-apache-project 1. js, https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo2.js 2. python,

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi > 1. We will remove the organization avatar > 2. We are ready to rename organization name from 'dubbo' to other name > 3. Because of action 2, we will also lose the domain name dubbo.github.io, > but it also makes things easier, since we don't need to keep website in > this group > 4. We plan

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi > No. The redirection has been completed. > You can test with: curl -i http://dubbo.io Checked, it is good now. And repo[1] of website description is clear. Thanks. > Because the ownership of dubbo.io did not belong to either Apache or > Alibaba when Dubbo joined ASF. > The Dubbo community

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Ian Luo
> > Those two are good options. Please read my prev reply[1], which concerns me > more are > 1. Website codebase. > 2. GitHub org name and logo. Sheng, If your concerns here are confirmed to be disallowed, we will do the following things against dubbo group: 1. We will remove the organization

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-24 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:01 AM Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi. > > > As Justin mentioned above, the translation is under going. We cannot do it > for all because we need to examine the license and make sure ICLA for each > projects are signed, > > I am not asking to move all repo related to Dubbo,

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi > The metrics project just plays as a third party dependency to Apache Dubbo, IMO there is no branding issue against Dubbo. The mailing list can be removed, I have already removed it. 3rd party dependency is ok, I think. If ml has been removed, which should be good. > t was discussed

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi. > As Justin mentioned above, the translation is under going. We cannot do it for all because we need to examine the license and make sure ICLA for each projects are signed, I am not asking to move all repo related to Dubbo, which is decided by the project owner or Dubbo community. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi, On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:19 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > 1. If graduation happens, Dubbo should be Apache branding, then why > > dubbo GitHub org[1] is still used. Especially the exact name and logo. > > Part of the repo was used to host dubbo.io which now redirects to >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Ian Luo
> > Glad to see the actions are ongoing, and many projects are done. Could the > Dubbo community consider to make sure the Dubbo GitHub[1] org to be > processed well? Such as, > 1. Stop using the Dubbo logo. > 2. Statement clear, this org will be renamed or some other way(community > prefers) to

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Sheng Wu
> Part of the repo was used to host dubbo.io which now redirects to http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/. Re the other projects it may be that a little clean up still needs to be done but action is being taken. The existence of this extra repo has been discussed a number of times in the project and

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > 1. If graduation happens, Dubbo should be Apache branding, then why > dubbo GitHub org[1] is still used. Especially the exact name and logo. Part of the repo was used to host dubbo.io which now redirects to http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/. Re the other projects it may be that a little

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi I have no doubt about the activity level of Dubbo community, as I have seen a lot of events and users around the project. So most cases, I think Dubbo is nearly to graduate. But I want to remind the incubator and Dubbo community, please pay attention to other things, besides codes and

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Dubbo (incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-04-23 Thread Huxing Zhang
Hi All, Since Apache Dubbo (incubating) entered the Apache incubator in February 2018, the Dubbo community has been growing in a fast and healthy way. Thanks to all the mentors, the community has learned a lot about how to collaborate in Apache way. During incubation, we have: - successfully