Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-02-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > John D. Ament wrote on 1/24/17 8:15 PM: >> 2. Add a "Podling Maturity Assessment" to the individual podling reports. >> This would give a clear opportunity for each podling to describe how they >> are doing, perhaps

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-02-02 Thread Shane Curcuru
John D. Ament wrote on 1/24/17 8:15 PM: > All, > > The Incubator PMC has received feedback from the board that changes may > need to be made to the structure of our report. Specifically, there is > confusion from the board members over how podlings get classified. There > is also a request to

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-02-01 Thread John D. Ament
I think we're all squared away on this. I'll commit the changes in the next day or so, and we'll see what it looks like in March. John On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:52 PM John D. Ament wrote: > Jim, > > No, its all good and I appreciate your time on this. The APMM has been

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-25 Thread John D. Ament
Jim, No, its all good and I appreciate your time on this. The APMM has been a source of confusion repeatedly. If nothing else, this email reminded me I need to shake that tree out a bit. John On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:03 AM Jim Apple wrote: > Ah, sorry for the

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-25 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
+1 -Taylor > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:43 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Just to provide, here's the proposed patch I have for the website > > Index: content/guides/ppmc.xml > === > --- content/guides/ppmc.xml

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-25 Thread Josh Elser
(so sorry, I think my fingers got a little antsy and sent a blank reply) +1 on #1 +1 on #2 given the clarification later in the thread. +1 on #3. I don't view it as a burden to leave a comment. Most of the time, I can just parrot events I was involved with, or a slightly more detailed version

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-25 Thread John D. Ament
Just to provide, here's the proposed patch I have for the website Index: content/guides/ppmc.xml === --- content/guides/ppmc.xml (revision 1780221) +++ content/guides/ppmc.xml (working copy) @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ Private

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-25 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:40 AM P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > I'm fine with 1 and 3, but 2 gives me pause. I like the idea of the > maturity model, but is it yet another burden on mentors? > > I would hope not. How often are mentors writing the reports for podlings, vs pushing

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
I'm fine with 1 and 3, but 2 gives me pause. I like the idea of the maturity model, but is it yet another burden on mentors? If we are trying to increase mentor engagement, we probably don't want to set too high a bar. -Taylor > On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, John D. Ament

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread Jim Apple
Ah, sorry for the paragraphs, then. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:52 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Jim, > > Don't read too deeply into my use of "Podling Maturity Assessment." The > sections of the current summary are simply "Ready to Graduate", "Some > Community Growth", "No

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread John D. Ament
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > John, > > What did you have in mind for “podling maturity assessment”? If it is > simply one of the existing phases - “still getting started”, “no release”, > “community growth”, “ready to graduate” - I can’t see that being >

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread Julian Hyde
John, What did you have in mind for “podling maturity assessment”? If it is simply one of the existing phases - “still getting started”, “no release”, “community growth”, “ready to graduate” - I can’t see that being contentious. Julian > On Jan 24, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Jim Apple

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread John D. Ament
Jim, Don't read too deeply into my use of "Podling Maturity Assessment." The sections of the current summary are simply "Ready to Graduate", "Some Community Growth", "No Release" and "Still Getting Started." I'm simply asking the podling to decide which of those 4 best describe themselves.

Re: [DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread Jim Apple
There were a number of people who opposed the use of the maturity model on this list in 2016. For instance, Greg Stein said: "There has been past controversy on including that as a graduation step. I'm not clear that was a proper addition." and "The Board has never required the IPMC to use the

[DISCUSS] Podling report format changes

2017-01-24 Thread John D. Ament
All, The Incubator PMC has received feedback from the board that changes may need to be made to the structure of our report. Specifically, there is confusion from the board members over how podlings get classified. There is also a request to increase and improve mentor feedback on podling