Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Andrew, > On Dec 16, 2023, at 10:19, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > > Craig, do we have this process captured in a documentation page anywhere? > I don't know of any such page... Craig > > a > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Craig, do we have this process captured in a documentation page anywhere? a Virus-free.www.avast.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Lamb
I will follow this advice - thank you Craig On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:43 AM Craig Russell wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I'd suggest that you have a DISCUSS thread on dev@arrow with the > proposal, including the list of folks who would form the new PMC, the > proposed chair, the repositories that

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Andrew, I'd suggest that you have a DISCUSS thread on dev@arrow with the proposal, including the list of folks who would form the new PMC, the proposed chair, the repositories that would be moved, and the name of the new project. If that results in consensus, have a VOTE thread and if that

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Lamb
Thank you -- this is super helpful On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:56 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Andrew > > We did a similar move while ago for Apache Karaf (from Apache > ServiceMix, then Felix, then TLP :)). > > AFAIR, you propose a resolution to the board with approval from PMC, >

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Andrew We did a similar move while ago for Apache Karaf (from Apache ServiceMix, then Felix, then TLP :)). AFAIR, you propose a resolution to the board with approval from PMC, proposing a new PMC/committer set. Regards JB On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 4:06 PM Andrew Lamb wrote: > > I apologize

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
For what it's worth, Arrow was created in Jan 2016 [1]. Here is the text of the Board resolution. Julian [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2016/board_minutes_2016_01_20.txt --- 7. Special Orders A. Establish the Apache Arrow Project WHEREAS, the Board of

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
Thank you -- I will proceed with a name search and work up a proposal draft as next steps. I am tracking this work in [1] for anyone who wishes to follow along. [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/issues/8491 On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:24 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > You could also look

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Dave Fisher
You could also look into how Solr was spun out of Lucene. It would be up to your PMC whether to make the new PMC identical or not. Doing a podling name search on DataFusion does check a box for the board. The best place to continue this discussion is bo...@apache.org Best, Dave Sent from my

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
Thank you Julian. This is very helpful. I will review the archives. Andrew On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 10:55 AM Julian Hyde wrote: > I believe the process is for the Board to create a new PMC whose IP and > PMC members are an exact copy of the parent PMC. (Like the Unix “fork” > function.) And

Re: [DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
I believe the process is for the Board to create a new PMC whose IP and PMC members are an exact copy of the parent PMC. (Like the Unix “fork” function.) And then both PMCs delete the stuff, and PMC members, they no longer need. Arrow itself was created via this process (from Drill). You

[DISCUSS] Procedure for graduating an existing sub project to new top level project

2023-12-15 Thread Andrew Lamb
I apologize if this is not the right list on which to ask this question. Can someone point to information about the procedure to propose “graduating” an *existing* sub project to a new top level project? Specifically, we are working on a proposal to graduate the “Apache Arrow DataFusion”[1] sub