First of all, thx for putting this together and thx for starting up a
discussion/effort in the Incubator about how to improve the Incubator instead
of just deciding that it is broken and needs to be replaced and/or alternatives
found (although both of those PoVs have merit).
Let me spend some
+1
I agree this is needed -- I'm a PMC member of the Airflow project that
recently graduated. We had some great mentors and some who were too busy to
help -- life happens, so I'm not complaining about the fact they were busy.
But, it does point to the need to be able to ramp up new mentors and
Hi,
I really don’t think there is a dialog happening here. I asked some questions
and no-one answers. Other people seem to want to push some other tangental view
and it’s not clear to me exactly what that is.
Perhaps I’m not making myself clear? The whole idea is not for me to write this
they might flourish in
> their own way.
>
> Ross
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> From: Justin Mclean
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Hi,
Just a note to say page has moved to:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Mentor+FAQ
Thanks,
Justin
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Hi,
> Sorry for my top post, but I have some observations about your “guide”.
> (1) It is more a mentoring FAQ than a guide.
Yep agree, and happy to change the name. I was hoping in time it could be
fleshed out with more general guidance, but that’s probably a long way off.
> (2) You are
Hi,
> Specific feedback: I don't think the "Values" lists are needed. I would
> prefer these incorporated into the prose in the "Reasoning" section.
The reason it’s there is to map to the values. I think you don’t see the need
for it because you have a good understanding of those, but I’m not
Hi -
Sorry for my top post, but I have some observations about your “guide”.
(1) It is more a mentoring FAQ than a guide.
(2) You are listing symptoms / policy violations.
(3) It would be better to discuss what community problem is causing the
particular issue instead of putting the blame on
+1 I like this document.
I expect the way one reaches a point where they don't need the proposed
document is by doing a lot of mentoring. So you can't wait until they've
already done a lot of mentoring before you start them mentoring :-). It is
true that the starter examples are the ones that
+1 This guidance document is worth pursuing. There is plenty of criticism of
mentors on this list, it helps to have some guidelines. Thanks Justin.
> On Aug 20, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sone thoughts inline.
>
>> Documentation does not solve the problem.
>
> I
Hi,
Sone thoughts inline.
> Documentation does not solve the problem.
I agree it doesn’t solve the whole problem. But it may give time poor mentors
more time to do other things if they can easily reference collective knowledge
on these issues.
> If someone doesn't already "get" this stuff
I'll reply/respond asap.
> On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've had hoped I'd get more of a response to the mentor guidance
> documentation I suggested. Perhaps it got lost in the other noise?
>
>
w to apply
the Apache Way to new communities so that they might flourish in their own way.
Ross
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From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:26:32 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [MENTO
Hi,
I've had hoped I'd get more of a response to the mentor guidance documentation
I suggested. Perhaps it got lost in the other noise?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Mentor+Guidance
Jim and Ross, you have recently stated that you are concerned about the erosion
of our
HI,
We don’t have a lot of guidance for mentors on how to actually guide podlings,
but with more than 200 projects having going through the incubator guided by
100+ mentors there should be a huge amount of collective knowledge. It might be
a good idea to put this down somewhere and refine it.
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