Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I fear we are miscommunicating again. Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices or permit others to (re)move them on the owner's behalf. Jeff just needs to give the project permission -- one simple email message to the list is enough -- and then anyone at Apache can move

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Kalle Korhonen
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: I fear we are miscommunicating again. Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices or permit others to (re)move them on the owner's behalf. Interesting, why is that? Is it so by the law? Kalle

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: I fear we are miscommunicating again. Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices or permit others to (re)move them

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/8/12 9:07 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: I fear we are miscommunicating again. Only the copyright owner is allowed to

RE: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:sa3r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 09:07 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: flex-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: The individual involved is willing to allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how formal the permission referred to in [1] must be. [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html Would it be possible

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Jun 8, 2012 2:33 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: The individual involved is willing to allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how formal the permission referred to in [1] must be.

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/8/12 11:36 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2012 2:33 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: The individual involved is willing to allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Reddin
Hi Incubator, See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the full situation is. Perhaps Alex can clarify if needed. Essentially, we wanted to offer Jeff commit rights to make the modification as

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 1:58 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Incubator, See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the full situation is. Perhaps Alex can clarify if needed. Jeff was an

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 6/7/12 1:58 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Incubator, See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the full

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Reddin
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. Ah, so there's no legal requirement to deal with here. Adobe cleared that up with the software

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 3:00 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Should a project move non-ASF copyright notices from Apache source files to the NOTICE file? No. If the copyright owner is still involved with the project, they should move the notice themselves or permit us to do so... That policy

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 6/7/12 3:00 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Should a project move non-ASF copyright notices from Apache source files to the NOTICE file? No. If the copyright owner is still involved with the project, they should move

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. Ah, so there's no legal

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 3:33 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his wishes and ensuring that we don't

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: So based on my understanding from your description: yeah. We don't need anything from Jeff. Since we tend to be extra conservative around here whenever we can and it isn't too inconvenient, we generally ask that an employee of