Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

2006-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/2/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: pages tend to be collected within directories so probably www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but sounds good.

Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

2006-07-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: pages tend to be collected within directories so probably www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but sounds good. /dev/standards/index.html, and then individual ietf.html, jsr.html,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts. Once you have created the implementation of something novel, there are people in both the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts. perhaps one way to reduce the friction would be for somene to

Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

2006-06-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts.

Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

2006-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: pages tend to be collected within directories so probably www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but sounds good. /dev/standards/index.html, and then individual ietf.html, jsr.html, w3c.html? That works. knowing which projects are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 30.06.2006, at 15:22, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Erik Abele wrote: On 30.06.2006, at 15:22, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-29 Thread Recordon, David
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project David Recordon wrote: This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with [Yadis, OpenID, OSIS] Yadis is currently

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Recordon, David wrote: For the last IETF meeting, Dick Hardt of Sxip had created a mailing list called DIX (http://dixs.org http://dixs.org/ ) and had a BOF under the same name. It was focused on the Sxip 2.0 protocol as a way to move authentication and profile

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-29 Thread Recordon, David
in solving many people's problems. --David From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/29/2006 4:20 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Recordon, David wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Recordon, David wrote: it sounds like the IETF would not be interested in standardizing a protocol above the HTTP layer. Rather, they are looking at a 2-3 year process to modify something like TLS to support authentication. Then once that

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-28 Thread Recordon, David
://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HeraldryIdentityProposal Regards, --David -Original Message- From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 6/27/2006 9:15 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Hi David, Thanks for the reply... I

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Recordon wrote: This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with [Yadis, OpenID, OSIS] Yadis is currently being standardized within OASIS as part of the

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-27 Thread Recordon, David
. --David From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 6:13 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Hi, Proposal -- This is a proposal to create a project within

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-27 Thread Recordon, David
To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Proposal -- This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with Yadis [1] for URL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-27 Thread Ruchith Fernando
with them in July to add support in Higgins for the OpenID Protocol as well. --David From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 6:13 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Hi, Proposal

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-23 Thread Wachob, Gabe
PROTECTED]; general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Wachob, Gabe; 'Peter Davis'; 'Graves, Michael' Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Dims, I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to try to overcome

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-23 Thread Peter Davis
On 6/20/2006 12:55 PM, Drummond Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dims, I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to try to overcome those for several years (with some recent progress). I'll point out that

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-23 Thread Drummond Reed
) -Original Message- From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:26 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Drummond, Here's some background history of things that we have faced

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-23 Thread Recordon, David
://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HeraldryIdentityProposal) to reflect this and look forward to meeting all of you in Dublin next week! --David -Original Message- From: Recordon, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:04 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 6/20/06, Drummond Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My co-chair Gabe Wachob and I have been one of a set of OASIS TC chairs that have been arguing hard for OASIS to adopt a more explicit open source compatible IPR mode, and we would be happy to work with you and ASF to continue to champion it.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-22 Thread Ruchith Fernando
Hi, Proposal -- This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with Yadis [1] for URL/XRI-based service discovery, OpenID [2] for web based

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Recordon, David
T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project This space in OASIS is a festering pile of claimed patents. Are all of the companies involved willing to sign the CCLA and software grants

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
be 100% free and open and compatible with all open source implementations. Best, =Drummond -Original Message- From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project This space

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:26 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Drummond, Here's some background history of things that we have faced. OpenSAML folks were interested in making OpenSAML an Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Ah Nice! thanks for the good news! -- dims On 6/20/06, Peter Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/20/2006 12:55 PM, Drummond Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dims, I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Recordon, David wrote: This has obviously been something we've been looking at in order to do our own due diligence on XRI IPR before being willing to contribute the Yadis spec to be incorporated into XRI Resolution 2.0. That's great, but I wasn't just

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Recordon, David
To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Recordon, David wrote: This has obviously been something we've been looking at in order to do our own due diligence on XRI IPR before being willing

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-20 Thread Danese Cooper
- From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project This space in OASIS is a festering pile of claimed patents. Are all of the companies involved willing to sign the CCLA

[PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Recordon, David
Proposal -- This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with Yadis [1] for URL/XRI-based service discovery, OpenID [2] for web based single-sign-on and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Querna
General Comments: Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ ) for a stable url when there are updates/changes? Recordon, David wrote: snip Initial Committers -- David Recordon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Andy Dale ([EMAIL

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Recordon, David
week. Thanks, --David -Original Message- From: Paul Querna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:59 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project General Comments: Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( http

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
With the additional request that when discussion is over and it comes for a vote, a copy of what is being voted in be submitted in the email calling for the vote. gier Paul Querna wrote: General Comments: Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ )

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 6/19/06, Recordon, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apache Sponsor -- We respectfully request that The Board of the Apache Software Foundation sponsor this project. Your proposal looks fine to me. One minor comment though: the Incubator PMC should be the Sponsor, not the

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

2006-06-19 Thread Recordon, David
, June 19, 2006 1:36 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On 6/19/06, Recordon, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apache Sponsor -- We respectfully request that The Board of the Apache Software Foundation sponsor this project. Your