Svn dump private download for concerned party?
On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to
be deleted?
Alternatively,
If no one else wants to, and if there is no stay of execution, then
I'll run the following tomorrow night:
svn remove http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bluesky/
Hen
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
(dropping bluesky-dev)
On Tue,
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:10, Chen Liu liuchen0...@gmail.com wrote:
Has Bluesky project been retired by ASF?
I'm sorry, but: yes.
See here for the vote results:
http://s.apache.org/7oo
And this
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote:
If no one else wants to, and if there is no stay of execution, then
I'll run the following tomorrow night:
svn remove http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bluesky/
Cool - I have created INFRA-3785 asking for
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to
be deleted? In very clear and plain terms, so there's no chance for
miscommunication?
Before we nuke something, we should double-check that any relevant
parties have had a chance to make their own backup of it.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
...Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to be
deleted? In very clear and plain terms, so there's no chance for
miscommunication?
Before we nuke something, we should double-check that
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to be
deleted? In very clear and plain terms, so there's no chance for
miscommunication?
I think I just did :) Chen Liu's on the list.
Before we
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to
be deleted?
Alternatively, we can simply turn off write access [to] ensure it's not
actively developed, but that it's available.
Are we deleting or moving to an attic-type section?
--- Noel
We need time to backup Bluesky.
Please dont delete us without any warnings.
Thanks!
2011/7/21 Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to
be deleted?
Alternatively, we can simply turn off write access [to] ensure it's not
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to
be deleted?
Alternatively, we can simply turn off write access [to] ensure it's not
actively developed, but that it's available.
Are we deleting
(dropping bluesky-dev)
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
...The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds...
Is anyone taking care of cleaning up BlueSky, deleting code from svn
(I assume that's needed), closing mailing lists etc?
-Bertrand
We are preparing for realese work right now.
some mentors in ASF support our project and are willing to give us one more
month to do this work.
I think
2011/7/19 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
(dropping bluesky-dev)
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Bernd Fondermann
Has Bluesky project been retired by ASF?
Can we continue to release work?
2011/7/19 Chen Liu liuchen0...@gmail.com
We are preparing for realese work right now.
some mentors in ASF support our project and are willing to give us one
more month to do this work.
I think
2011/7/19 Bertrand
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:10, Chen Liu liuchen0...@gmail.com wrote:
Has Bluesky project been retired by ASF?
I'm sorry, but: yes.
Can we continue to release work?
I'm not sure what you mean by release, but SVN will soon be closed for Bluesky.
Bernd
2011/7/19 Chen Liu
Am 19.07.2011 11:10, schrieb Chen Liu:
Can we continue to release work?
Sure, but *not* within the Apache Incubator.
Cheers,
Andreas
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hi, all,
If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com
Hi everyone,
The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris,
If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
Not the ASF SVN server.
But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to
there svn servers:
http://code.google.com/hosting/
2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann
Can they upload it to Apache-Extras if it still exists ?
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
Not the ASF SVN server.
But you can use for example google code
It still exists:
http://apache-extras.org/
Please see:
http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
Apache Extras has been established for projects that don't want to,
or are unable to be a formal part of the Apache Software Foundation
but still wish to demonstrate their affinity to one
Oh, my bad, didn't notice that part. In that case your suggestion to
go to Google code is better and more appropriate.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
It still exists:
http://apache-extras.org/
Please see:
+1 to retire (non-binding).
What worries me is that Chen is talking about a 4th release while the
website doesn't record the Copyright or Verify distribution rights as
having been completed.
+1 (non-binding) to remove the source from SVN upon retirement due to
the Copyright action items not
I have been on vacation since last week and missed this hot discussion.
I think BlueSky is a valuable project and the proposers/contributors
all have good intention to make the project successful here. I also
understand that due to the special way that the project operates
(short term students as
Hi everyone,
The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
William (binding)
and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:51 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
On 6/28/2011 12:49 AM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev
On 7/1/2011 7:58 PM, Chen Liu wrote:
We're preparing for the 4th version release.
We need the whole July to do this work,thanks for your patience.
Ok, stop.
I think you are all conflating releases with what is required
to continue here at the ASF.
releases have not been the main issue.
The
On 7/1/2011 8:10 PM, Chen Liu wrote:
We've already known our failure in ASF. We would not
find any excuses for this bed situation.
But we just hope one more month to release the 4th version work.
We've been advancing Bluesky project and now the 4th version is an
integtared system including
On 6/28/2011 12:49 AM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are changing frequently without
I don'tthink that a single mentor is nearly sufficient for this or any podling.
Taking the feedback above and below in this thread into account, there
seems few confidence if any that Bluesky will be able to become an
Apache project. I'll close the vote, which sees no other votes than
+1s ATM, on
I would like to see this vote suspended until we can get some feedback
from Jack Cai re whether he is willing to be a mentor.
Bill
On 6/28/11 1:49 AM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in
Bill Stoddard wrote:
I would like to see this vote suspended until we can get some feedback
from Jack Cai re whether he is willing to be a mentor.
I concur that we should suspend this vote pending the outcome of the
project's attempt to reboot.
--- Noel
I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One
month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time,
a swift vote can close the project down.
Upayavira
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:36 -0400, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
wrote:
Bill Stoddard wrote:
I
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One
month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time,
a swift vote can close the project down.
+1
Christian
Upayavira
On Fri, 01
The vote does not need to be suspended. It perhaps would be enough to
leave the vote open for a month. If there is at least one -1 by then the
podling might continue to exist, otherwise it is retired.
My non-binding vote on retirement:
+1
Cheers,
Andreas
---
Am 01.07.2011 23:28, schrieb
+1 to retire Bluesky (binding)
I see no reason for suspending the vote. We've been round this
particular merry-go-round many times already. Each time we're told
we'll do better. The votes been called lets just move on, the ASF is
not the right home for this project for the reasons already
+1 (Binding)
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
+1 to retire Bluesky (binding)
I see no reason for suspending the vote. We've been round this
particular merry-go-round many times already. Each time we're told
we'll do better. The votes been called
+1 for retiring Bluesky
I believe that the Bluesky project is well-intentioned but just
doesn't belong at Apache.
The coders do not use mail lists for discussions of design, code,
infrastructure, or other aspects of project management that Apache
projects must do. If it didn't happen on
We're preparing for the 4th version release.
We need the whole July to do this work,thanks for your patience.
2011/7/2 Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk
I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One
month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time,
a
I concur with Craig's thoughts.
+1 to retire (binding).
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:27, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
+1 for retiring Bluesky
I believe that the Bluesky project is well-intentioned but just doesn't
belong at Apache.
The coders do not use mail lists for
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
I concur with Craig's thoughts.
+1 to retire (binding).
+1, even with the whole discussion that there is a need for open
development right now and not in the future, the last Chen Lu messages
keeps trying to by more time with
+1 (non-binding) for the retirement proposal.
Chen, the vote has nothing to do with whether you manage to release
the 4th version or not, and the failure to see that and the failure to
understand what Apache and the incubator is about is a testament to
why the project should be retired, in my
+1 (non-binding)
Looking at the (lack of) progress and interest, I think its time to
end incubation for Bluesky.
- Henry
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has
Chen, the suggestion is not for you to take July to complete your
release. If you told me you had cancelled the proposed release and were
working on migrating to open development at Apache, I might be prepared
to pause a month. Your comment only makes me feel inclined not to wait.
If you want to
+1
Martijn
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers
On 6/28/11 7:49 AM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
+1
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Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are changing
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
[X] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
/niklas
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+1
Tommaso
2011/6/28 berndf ber...@apache.org
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are changing frequently
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling
+1
I will also forward the vote message to
bluesky-priv...@incubator.apache.org and to J.Aaron Farr and Bill
Stoddard, listed as mentors as
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
I'll extend the voting period until 2011-07-05 so the project has some
time to find new mentors.
Bernd
-
To
+1 (binding).
Cheers,
Chris
On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers
+1
Ralph
On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are changing
+1
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are
I don't have Internet access right now, except for ssh to my mail server.
Has anyone told the BlueSky project about this vote, yet?
I'm +1 for retirement, but feel that part of the process for retiring a
project should be notice to the project that retirement is being considered
and acted upon.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are
+1
Regards,
Alan
On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote:
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are
Hi everyone,
this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
lists. Mentors are
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