On 6/30/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/29/06, sophitia que [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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6. The Apache PRC SHALL affirmatively and publicly respond to any such
inaccurate publicity surrounding podlings.
I'm not quite comfortable with the word inaccurate
On 6/29/06, sophitia que [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I don't necessarily disagree with this guideline it doesn't
seem that it belongs here. Until a project is accepted no formal
relationship between the proposer and the ASF exists (right?), so
this guideline cannot be enforced or even
On 6/29/06, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I will be submitting a proposal soon, and have followed the form of the
most recent submissions. Will
this discussion have material impact on the form of a submission in the
next few weeks?
of course :-)
the mailing lists are the
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sophitia que wrote:
[...]
I don't think it's unreasonable that we expect proposing parties to at
least browse and read parts of the incubator web site prior to a
submission. Our obligation, as the incubator, would be to 1) ensure
that
any
On 6/30/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sophitia que wrote:
[...]
I don't think it's unreasonable that we expect proposing parties to at
least browse and read parts of the incubator web site prior to a
submission.
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not quite comfortable with the word inaccurate here. What
exactly does it refer to? (Assuming it's bullet 5, there doesn't
seem anything inaccurate about putting out a press release
announcing the proposal of a project, ill-advised though it
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
[...]
5. Until the Incubator PMC approves a podling proposal *and* the
podling initial drop code is in our source code repositories, a
project or any affiliated persons SHOULD NOT issue any 'press
releases' or
On 29.06.2006, at 12:11, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not quite comfortable with the word inaccurate here. What
exactly does it refer to? (Assuming it's bullet 5, there doesn't
seem anything inaccurate about putting out a press release
+1
On Jun 29, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
We have had way way way too many problems with podlings seeking
publicity when they had no code yet. Kabuki is just the latest
example - right after being accepted, IBM/Zimbra issued a PR - but
they then silently went away after getting
robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 6/29/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
if this document doesn't work in it's current form, please post your
proposed improvements so we can all take a look (that goes for everyone BTW
:-)
I see no problem with the rest of the document. My only
While I don't necessarily disagree with this guideline it doesn't
seem that it belongs here. Until a project is accepted no formal
relationship between the proposer and the ASF exists (right?), so
this guideline cannot be enforced or even expected to be known to
the proposing party. (It only
From below: For example, it's become standard that people use a
certain general model or template to submit their
proposals. (We are now trying to create an official template, but the
last X submissions have largely followed the same unofficial pattern).
I don't think it's unreasonable that
sophitia que wrote:
[...]
I don't think it's unreasonable that we expect proposing parties to at
least browse and read parts of the incubator web site prior to a
submission. Our obligation, as the incubator, would be to 1) ensure that
any official guidelines we develop are prominently and
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
[...]
5. Until the Incubator PMC approves a podling proposal *and* the
podling initial drop code is in our source code repositories, a
project or any affiliated persons SHOULD NOT issue any 'press
releases' or affirmatively seek positive publicity (such as 'seeding
news
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Podlings are, by definition, not yet fully accepted as part of
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:42:54PM -0700, sophitia que wrote:
I would also propose:
The PRC is willing to issue formal press releases for all podlings who
successfully graduate from the Incubator and are interested in issuing a
press release. See below...
5. Until the Incubator PMC
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:56:56PM +0100, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
1. The podling MUST be referred to as Apache Podling AND mention
that the project is under Incubation. Suitable mentions are:
- Inclusion of the http://incubator.apache.org/podling URL
- The statement that Apache
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:11:15PM -0700, Roy Fielding wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
So, the guide that I'm tackling is the Podling Branding guide.
It would be nice to tackle the still-nonexistant Apache branding
guide as well. That way you could link to it
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 08:59:37AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
[ Hi, this message doesn't seem to be going through - I'd appreciate it
if you'd forward it on, or quote it in a reply, in the hope that
whatever is causing mail problems sorts itself out today. Thanks! ]
Justin Erenkrantz
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:56:56PM +0100, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
* Apache Incubating Project podling
* Apache podling Incubating Project
We (Cliff, Robert, Noel, Noirin and myself) discussed some of these options
here beforehand, and we felt that having a
So, the guide that I'm tackling is the Podling Branding guide.
Here's what I'm proposing after some feedback from others here in Dublin:
Podlings are, by definition, not yet fully accepted as part of the
Apache Software Foundation. Therefore, they are subject to additional
branding
I would also propose:
The PRC is willing to issue formal press releases for all podlings who
successfully graduate from the Incubator and are interested in issuing a
press release. See below...
5. Until the Incubator PMC approves a podling proposal *and* the
podling initial drop code is in
On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:42 PM, sophitia que wrote:
I would also propose:
The PRC is willing to issue formal press releases for all podlings who
successfully graduate from the Incubator and are interested in
issuing a
press release. See below...
5. Until the Incubator PMC approves a
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
So, the guide that I'm tackling is the Podling Branding guide.
Here's what I'm proposing after some feedback from others here in Dublin:
Podlings are, by definition, not yet fully accepted as part of the
Apache Software Foundation. Therefore, they are subject to
On 6/26/06, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm left very unclear about what is allowed in a press release and
what isn't. Examples might be helpful. Based on my confusion, I
also don't understand why a press release saying that project X is
starting incubation with community members
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
So, the guide that I'm tackling is the Podling Branding guide.
It would be nice to tackle the still-nonexistant Apache branding
guide as well. That way you could link to it from this doc.
Here's what I'm proposing after some feedback
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