Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-10-01 Thread Branko Čibej
On 01.10.2014 05:41, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict [VOTE] for new committers or PMC

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:52 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: ...The HTTP Server project has successfully operated by unanimity... As a side note, I often tell people that IMO the HTTP Server is so modular because people couldn't agree on things - it's much easier to get

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: ... Specifically, we (CouchDB) see voting as the failure mode of a discussion (a useful one non-the-less), or as a last-step requirement to officiate a particular set of project-level decisions (that are fully enumerated

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict [VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets the direction. People throw out +1 messages, but that is sure, make it so rather

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict [VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Brett Porter
As an additional reference, here's a previous thread on the topic: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201303.mbox/%3ccapfnckijy6tm5tycfn7msch6h0v_ear7ws5qmftegaoo+do...@mail.gmail.com%3E Cheers, Brett On 26 Sep 2014, at 1:59 pm, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: In a

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
From: Joe Brockmeiermailto:j...@zonker.net javascript:; Sent: ‎9/‎26/‎2014 5:00 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org javascript:;mailto: general@incubator.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: Committer Voting and Vetos On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-29 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: The HTTP Server PMC has succeeded in working through these issues without evicting a project member, and continuing to make progress. There is a lot of credit due for this. Of course, there are different stresses

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote: In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority voting for new

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Jake Farrell
Hey Alex If during a new committer vote someone is giving a negative vote then the reasoning should be included with that vote and a discussion can follow around why the person was given the negative vote, this should all occur on the private@ mailing list for that project. If there is hesitation

RE: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
From: Joe Brockmeiermailto:j...@zonker.net Sent: ‎9/‎26/‎2014 5:00 AM To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Committer Voting and Vetos On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote: In a past discussion about by-laws

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
. How the vote is conducted is covered well by Joe. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Joe Brockmeiermailto:j...@zonker.net Sent: ‎9/‎26/‎2014 5:00 AM To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
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Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread jan i
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Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority

Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-25 Thread Alex Harui
In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority voting for new committers? What are the reasons for allowing vetoes?