Hi,
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org wrote:
Would it make a difference, if I step up and make the initial PMC Chair, as
I have over the last couple of weeks started my own commitment to the
project?
My main concern is over the small number of people writing
2009/8/5 Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com:
On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretazbdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
listen to the community?
That's
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a community
perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
projects. But even if he did, by these standards the projects might
Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a community
perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
projects. But even if he did, by these
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph
Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a
community
perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
projects.
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a
community
perspective because Ceki has no
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
You won't find the second part solely from the commit log. I would expect
mentors to be monitoring the dev list. If it is filled with can you fix
this? then there is a problem. But if it also has why did you do
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ralph
Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
You won't find the second part solely from the commit log. I would
expect
mentors to be monitoring the dev list. If it is filled with can
you fix
this? then
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
We are looking for projects with at least three independent
committers, and personally I'm not including inactive committers in
that count.
Now you are making
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com
snip
That's why I measure the three
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
Martijn
On Wednesday, August 5, 2009, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Martijn
Dashorstmartijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
True, but that's how I interpret it, for reasons stated earlier in this thread.
My -1 in the Pivot vote is just a statement
On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
Martijn
Absolutely right. I'd actually like to see more than 3 people with
commit privs (and I think most projects have that). As a mentor I
would be
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretazbdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
listen to
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
OK we have a similar example here at the ASF - when Craig McC. left
Apache Shale it slowly died - and AFAIK become the first project to
join the Attic. So Ceki decides to become a Yak farmer in patagonia
and maybe the same thing happens to
On Aug 5, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Martijn
Dashorstmartijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
True, but that's how I interpret it, for reasons stated earlier in
I will try to answer it;
1. I think it is an extreme question. If both disappeared tomorrow, I don't
think the will to continue exists. If it happens 12 months from now in the
Incubator, I think it could go either way. If happens 12 months after
graduation, I am pretty sure it sustains. Why do I
Jukka,
I don't like to force majority result if there is controversy.
Having a couple of -1, and other not voting but practically agreeing with
you and Ant, is not the way to go.
I think they are as ready as they can get, considering the starting point
and the general attitude towards incubated
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretazbdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
listen to the community?
That's certainly good, but IMHO not really the key point as it doesn't
address the case when those people lose
On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretazbdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
listen to the community?
That's certainly good, but IMHO not really the key point as it
Yes,
And here is another angle; ALL projects will die, it is just a matter of
time.
Now, knowing that we need to deal with, and can't set out with the notion
that if we think it might whither it can't graduate, then I will need to
vote against all graduations.
So, IMHO, the might die criteria is
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