Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2019-01-09 Thread Lars Francke
Gris, sorry for the late reply. I'm only now catching up on emails after the holidays. Thanks for your support! The next steps are for me (in the next two weeks) to write an official proposal. I'll then start a [DISCUSS] Thread and will gather interested parties. We can take it from there. I beli

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2019-01-03 Thread Gris Cuevas
On 2018/12/17 14:26:47, Julian Feinauer wrote: > Hey Lars, > hi Rich, > > I really like the idea! > We, from time to time, also do trainings and workshops with Apache projects > and it would really help to have a better basis. > And I agree for you that you don’t get payed for *having* slide

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2019-01-03 Thread Gris Cuevas
Hi Everyone, This is a fantastic idea and we'd love to contribute! Personally, I think it makes more sense to have this to be a central offering of the ASF instead of a project. The reason is that having a central service would help permeate the values and belief of the ASF to the projects.

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I'm also +1 on a proposal on incubator even if it's voted on direct to TLP.  It will help you significantly in understanding the goals of the PMC and get others involved.  And if I can get the companies like Udacity, Udemy, Coursera, Pluralsight, etc. to come to the table and help, they will likely

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-20 Thread Lars Francke
Great, thanks for the feedback. I'll work on that in the next few days! Happy holidays everyone, Lars On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:37 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:00 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > ...Even with direct to TLP it might be go

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:00 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Even with direct to TLP it might be good to put a proposal together like > an incubating project +1, doing the proposal here is also better for visibility, and many steps are common between incubation and straight to TLP. -Bertrand

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-20 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'm a bit unsure on how to proceed. The > consensus seemed to lean more towards the direct-to-TLP route. Even with direct to TLP it might be good to put a proposal together like an incubating project. [1] That may also work out which route is better. Than

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-19 Thread Lars Francke
I've waited two days to see if there is more feedback. Seems as if the discussion has died down. I've only heard positive feedback so far. Thanks Kevin for the suggestion. I'm a bit unsure on how to proceed. The consensus seemed to lean more towards the direct-to-TLP route. Would I have to propose

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-18 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/18/2018 11:43 AM, Lars Francke wrote: > You, Rich and KAM talk about a TLP/Central Service so let's start > discussing that. I'm fairly well informed about the Incubator but I have no > ideas about the direct-to-TLP/Central Services path. Any pointers/mentors > would be great. If no one objec

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-18 Thread Lars Francke
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:09 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:23 PM Lars Francke > wrote: > > ...we do not believe that a slide-deck is worth > > that much on its own... > > I agree but I think the course outline has a lot of value:

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:23 PM Lars Francke wrote: > ...we do not believe that a slide-deck is worth > that much on its own... I agree but I think the course outline has a lot of value: if I know the topic and have a good course plan, I can walk in and deliver a valuable course without much

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:24 PM Lars Francke wrote: >...I believe we can probably hash out most details on > the list as well?.. Yes, that's how we work ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apac

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, A possibly related related thread [1]. On the format/technology front I know Christofer Dutz uses mavin / asciidoctor (?) to build and make multiple versions of his slides, so he might have something to contribute. I would also be interested. Thanks, Justin 1. https://lists.apache.org/th

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/17/2018 2:14 PM, Lars Francke wrote: > thanks for the heads up and for the support. I'd love for those > companies to contribute but I think there's no need to wait for them, no? > > I understand that a meeting can be useful but if you have one it'd be > great if it could be an online meetup/

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Lars Francke
Kevin, thanks for the heads up and for the support. I'd love for those companies to contribute but I think there's no need to wait for them, no? I understand that a meeting can be useful but if you have one it'd be great if it could be an online meetup/call so I (from Germany) can also participat

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Lars Francke
Julian, One thing that came to my mind was to use some kind of "code based" > generation for the slides, notebooks, brochures like Latex, Markdown, > Asciidoc or else... > I would not like to force users to use proprietary tools (PPT) to use the > material. > And furthermore, this would allow us t

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Hi Lars, Just a note that this might tie in nicely to the proposal I sent to a number of online companies: Coursera, Pluralsight, Udemy, & Udacity re: setting up a PMC for Training.  I got only one response which so far hasn't materialized with much.  However, I think the idea has a lot of merit a

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hey Lars, hi Rich, I really like the idea! We, from time to time, also do trainings and workshops with Apache projects and it would really help to have a better basis. And I agree for you that you don’t get payed for *having* slides but for the show as well as for the insights you get from a goo

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Lars Francke
Thanks for your quick response, your comments and your support. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:37 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > It's worth mentioning that there's a conversation going right now over on > the members@ list about creating a "central services" kind of entity. That > discussion is primarily foc

Re: Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Rich Bowen
It's worth mentioning that there's a conversation going right now over on the members@ list about creating a "central services" kind of entity. That discussion is primarily focused on design/graphic kind of stuff, but training/documentation/presentations are similar in concept, if not in content, a

Establishing an ASF project for training

2018-12-17 Thread Lars Francke
Hi, I'd like to start a discussion around establishing a project (or Central Service) at the ASF to host and develop training and related materials for ASF (and possibly others, where it makes sense) projects. I'm a committer and contributor to a few projects and make money doing consulting work.