Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Currently only a couple of people have access to the feedback directly, but my intent is for all the IPMC to have access. Anything that come up from the feedback will be brought back to the list and discussed. I’m just not sure how to arrange that, currently if any other IPMC members want a

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi All As Julian mentions, my understanding is that this is about information collection not about decision making. The more information we have that is relevant could encourage more focussed discussion and help us see if there is something unclear in the documentation or process. If there is

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Julian Hyde
What Roman said. And also, I make a distinction between communication (information gathering) and decision making. The Apache Way is that decisions occur on-list. It doesn’t say that all communication/information gathering is on-list. Julian > On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik w

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:14 AM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 1/14/2019 1:01 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > I don’t think the “decisions should be made on-list” principle applies to > > all communication. (Otherwise why would we allow hallway conversations at > > conferences?) I’d rather that we mak

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 1/14/2019 1:01 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > I don’t think the “decisions should be made on-list” principle applies to all > communication. (Otherwise why would we allow hallway conversations at > conferences?) I’d rather that we make better decisions than be slave to > principle. > It really d

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Julian Hyde
I don’t think the “decisions should be made on-list” principle applies to all communication. (Otherwise why would we allow hallway conversations at conferences?) I’d rather that we make better decisions than be slave to principle. These interviews would be in addition to on-list surveys. Julia

Re: Incubator exit interview

2019-01-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
Isn't that starting off on the wrong foot? off list communication, non-transparancy, treating the VP of the PMC as "more" than an administrative position, etc... > On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > Another idea is for Justin (or someone else active in the IPMC) to > have a

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-28 Thread Sid Anand
Thx for setting up this questionnaire -- as an Airflow PPMC / Committer, I filled it out, being as candid as possible. -s On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 2:08 AM Pierre Smits wrote: > +1 regarding the suggestion by Julian. > > I believe this will yield a better response than yet another questionnaire >

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-24 Thread Pierre Smits
+1 regarding the suggestion by Julian. I believe this will yield a better response than yet another questionnaire to work through (however short). And it isn't so that the IPMC (with all its members) is overloaded with graduations each year. Best regards, Pierre Smits *Apache Trafodion

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-23 Thread Sharan F
+1 Great idea Julian! Thanks Sharan On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, 00:27 Julian Hyde Another idea is for Justin (or someone else active in the IPMC) to > have a phone call with the incoming chair of the newly-graduated > project. People are more likely to open up in an "off the record" and > interactive

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-22 Thread Julian Hyde
Another idea is for Justin (or someone else active in the IPMC) to have a phone call with the incoming chair of the newly-graduated project. People are more likely to open up in an "off the record" and interactive setting. This would be in addition to the written questions. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Thanks for putting this together. I took a quick look and have some > suggestions (so perhaps getting the edit access would be good, if you are > happy for me to change things). > I'm happy for you to change things I'll give you access once in the front of a real computer. The question about

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-22 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Justin Thanks for putting this together. I took a quick look and have some suggestions (so perhaps getting the edit access would be good, if you are happy for me to change things). The question about the Apache Way is a simple yes / no. I suppose no one is going to respond no when they have

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-15 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I’ve created a form here using google forms [1]. If anyone wants edit permission just ask. Google forms seemed an easy way to do it, is free and you don’t need a google account in order to be able to fill it out. Any suggestions for projects to try it out on? Airflow is a good candidate as

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-11 Thread Liang Chen
Hi The idea is great, agree. Whether need to add the number of releases like finishing 2 or 3 incubator releases, or not? Regards Liang Justin Mclean wrote > Hi, > >> I like this idea a lot! In fact, I like it so much that I'd really >> love to see it as an on-going feedback rather than a one-

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
Yeah... I remember chatting w/ you about this idea at ApacheCon... +1 > On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:15 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering if it would be a good idea to ask projects a few > questions of committers/PPMC members once they leave the incubator to gauge > how we ar

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 7:51 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > I like this idea a lot! In fact, I like it so much that I'd really > > love to see it as an on-going feedback rather than a one-time deal. > > Were you thinking something like after 6 month, 1 year and 2 years (if > needed) in inc

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I like this idea a lot! In fact, I like it so much that I'd really > love to see it as an on-going feedback rather than a one-time deal. Were you thinking something like after 6 month, 1 year and 2 years (if needed) in incubation? And also at graduation. Thanks, Justin

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering if it would be a good idea to ask projects a few > questions of committers/PPMC members once they leave the incubator to gauge > how we are doing and find out where there is room for improvement? It would > be

Re: Incubator exit interview

2018-12-08 Thread sharan
Hi Justin I think this is a great idea and I might have a potential other questions to add as I'm planning to do my MBA Thesis around Apache Incubator and how it works in embedding the Apache culture and processes into new projects. I'll start a new thread about this to see if there are any s

Incubator exit interview

2018-12-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I was just wondering if it would be a good idea to ask projects a few questions of committers/PPMC members once they leave the incubator to gauge how we are doing and find out where there is room for improvement? It would be simple to try as a proof of concept on a couple of graduating proj