Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:29 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/9/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > We subsequently changed the bootstrap process. I'd have to go back > to the > archives, but late October 2006, I b

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/9/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > We subsequently changed the bootstrap process. I'd have to go back > to the > archives, but late October 2006, I believe. I'd like to see where this process was incorporated into a chan

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: We subsequently changed the bootstrap process. I'd have to go back to the archives, but late October 2006, I believe. I'd like to see where this process was incorporated into a change of Policy or any other incubator document. What I'm

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I just read the Policy again, and it sure appears that acceptance of a podling by the Incubator is a lazy approval process. No vote occurs unless an incubator PMC member says hold. Read it again: Upon a successful result, the PMC Chair of t

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
I've looked at the last several incubation proposals and none of them include the initial PPMC. This might have been voted but it's not currently practice nor Policy. Craig On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: That would be a task they have to undertake, not a right, although

RE: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Craig Russell wrote: > 1. On acceptance of a candidate project, the assigned Mentors shall > be given access to the Podling's repository for the duration of the > incubation process. This is to allow the Mentors to perform their > incubation duties, and is for administrative purposes only. All PM

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Craig Russell wrote: Does being a Mentor grant any special powers/rights? Well, yes. There are a dozen references to the Mentor role in Policy [1]. The responsibilities, requirements, karma grants are all defined in Policy. Ye

RE: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin van den Bemt wrote: > I like the group that needs to work with you to make the final > call (as a general rule, there can always be exceptions of course) Yes, but does that require a formal vote if everyone is in favor of it? :-) If there are objections, I'm sure we'd hear about them, eve

RE: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Craig Russell wrote: > > Does being a Mentor grant any special powers/rights? > Well, yes. There are a dozen references to the Mentor role in Policy > [1]. The responsibilities, requirements, karma grants are all defined > in Policy. Yes, but read it again. Consider: there are no new rights gr

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Cool :) So should we have a vote on ode-dev then? <> Sometimes I think that we get a bit vote happy. Is this really something that is in need of a vote? E.g., is this a policy decision, karma grant or code release? Does bei

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 6/8/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noel I'm also with you - I don't think that - unless the ODE community have some concerns - there is any need for any votes. I simply started a vote on general because I thought it might be quicker than arguing about whether a vote was necess

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 6/8/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noel I'm also with you - I don't think that - unless the ODE community have some concerns - there is any need for any votes. +1 - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL P

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Paul Fremantle
Noel I'm also with you - I don't think that - unless the ODE community have some concerns - there is any need for any votes. I simply started a vote on general because I thought it might be quicker than arguing about whether a vote was necessary! AFAIC we can get on and bootstrap the PPMC now.

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I think voting for a mentor is the good thing to do, at least on the dev / ppmc (assuming it is healthy) of the podling. At least that was my condition to be added as a Mentor for Trinidad at that time. I like the group that needs to work with you to make the final call (as a general rule, there

To vote or not to vote

2007-06-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Cool :) So should we have a vote on ode-dev then? <> Sometimes I think that we get a bit vote happy. Is this really something that is in need of a vote? E.g., is this a policy decision, karma grant or code release? Does being a Mentor grant any special powers/rights? Is it really just a ter