Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-30 Thread ant elder
Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked dormant and nearly 30 marked retired. The 3 dormant ones are from ages ago and looking back in the archives its from when there wasn't a documented retirement process and people didn't really know what to call it. IMHO the simplest thing to

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-30 Thread sebb
On 30 May 2013 08:08, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked dormant and nearly 30 marked retired. The 3 dormant ones are from ages ago and looking back in the archives its from when there wasn't a documented retirement process and people

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-30 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 30, 2013, at 12:08 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked dormant and nearly 30 marked retired. The 3 dormant ones are from ages ago and looking back in the archives its from when there wasn't a documented retirement process and

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-30 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 30, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 12:08 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked dormant and nearly 30 marked retired. The 3 dormant ones are from ages ago and looking back in the

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 12:08 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked dormant and nearly 30

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome back to the fold, should they so desire. Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: I think

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-29 Thread ant elder
I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term retired is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is? Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-29 Thread John D. Ament
I can't see any place in the docs that describe dormant. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term retired is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places in the Incubator

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-29 Thread Joseph Schaefer
What we really need now is a few hundred more emails on this exciting subject, just like every other year! At the end we can all agree to disagree and go away sad that nothing ever gets done around here, just like every other year we have this interesting debate! Party on I say. Sent from my

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:36 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term retired is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?

What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the difference is. I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from Henri Yandell which I repost here: Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired. Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off. Basically this is a larger version of don't be afraid to delete a line of code; it's in

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want to retire? Does anyone know? Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from Henri Yandell which I repost here: Given the PPMC

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Upayavira
I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. Using the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible for the podlings to go, well, dormant. Upayavira On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all to dormant? Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. Using the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all to dormant? +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end. Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it back up. Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think it's best to archive the code/move it to

AW: Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 for this interpretation -- John D. Ament schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2013 21:17 MESZ: I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it back up. Retired - we've given up all