Re: Is llvm exception allowed for incubator projects?

2023-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Roman, On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:55 AM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...If you decide to distribute convenience binary artifact -- only then the > LLVM exception > will apply and it will be OK... Shouldn't that exception be mentioned at https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html ? I searched

Re: [VOTE] KIE proposal acceptance

2023-01-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Jason Porter wrote: > The proposal is available at [1]... I'm copying the proposal text here, we usually include it in vote threads for archiving purposes. -Bertrand *** KIE proposal *** Abstract KIE (Knowledge is Everything) is a community of solutions and supporting tooling for

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove 72 hour waiting time to add PPMC members.

2022-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le ven. 14 oct. 2022 à 15:24, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > ...Would we still have an option to intervene, if for example one PPMC bunch > adds people from the same company, for example? That should be reviewed at graduation time. A PPMC has no formal power, so cannot cause any harm to the

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

2022-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...will report here when the dev@ list is ready. The Baremaps dev list is now ready [1], use dev-subscr...@baremaps.apache.org to subscribe. -Bertrand [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@baremaps.apache.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

2022-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 11:30, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ..The vote passes with more than 3 binding +1s, a few non-binding +1s > and no other votes... I should have included a link to the vote thread: https://lists.apache.org/thread/6qhbbdnvszpj2wwkcqb1xc05c81brw4r -Be

[RESULT][VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

2022-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le jeu. 6 oct. 2022 à 14:52, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...The [DISCUSS] thread on Baremaps [1] has slowed down, with no > objections AFAICS, so I'm calling a vote to accept Baremap into the > Apache incubator... The vote passes with more than 3 binding +1s, a few non-binding +1s and

Re: [VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

2022-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...I'm calling a vote to accept Baremap into the > Apache incubator. >... +1, bring Baremap into the Incubator! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.a

[VOTE] Accept Baremaps into the Apache Incubator

2022-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
status: Bertil Chapuis (Heig-vd), Apache Committer, id: bchapuis Andrea Borghi (Camptocamp) James Smith (Heig-vd) Antoine Drabble (Heig-vd) Leonard Besseau (Hobbyist) Josh Fischer, Apache Committer, id: joshfischer Sponsors Champion Bertrand Delacretaz Mentors Martin Desruisseaux George

Re: Proposal

2022-05-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Le ven. 20 mai 2022 à 00:33, m sacks a écrit : > > And if i want to publish it without building community just publish to > github if i understand correctly?... You can do that, and if you have plans to join the ASF later it's useful to take a look at [1] and ideally shape your emerging

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP

2021-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email > addresses in the graduation resolution... I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members asked for the resolutions to be modified to

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-269) Podlings Guides menu is too long and does not scroll

2021-08-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-269?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17395151#comment-17395151 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-269: --- I think an index page is simple

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

2021-08-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 7:45 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...The branches are renamed: > > - status/projects > - status/ip-clearance > - status/clutch ... Great, thank you! Such prefixes will definitely help. -Bertrand - To

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

2021-08-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 2:43 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > Branches for a purpose are appropriate... Absolutely agreed! But (to me) on GitHub the role of each branch can be hard to figure out, so I think that needs to be explicitly documented. Using conventions for branch names might help, like

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

2021-08-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Dave, On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:39 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...In Pelican we will have two branches for each directory... Just a quick comment on this: I often get crazy with repositories which use multiple branches "for production use" as they are often not discoverable. If you go this route

Re: [WEBSITE] More Fully Move to Git

2021-08-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Dave, On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:32 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I plan to complete the move of many of the files that are maintained by > projects > into an ASF-Pelican workflow like I recently completed for www.apache.org... https://github.com/apache/incubator is currently built using JBake,

Re: Unable to access Incubator's web page

2021-07-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:35 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...What we need is to add a check to the script to stop before committing to > the asf-site branch... Makes sense, https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/96 -Bertrand -

Re: Unable to access Incubator's web page

2021-07-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:17 PM Daniel Gruno wrote: > ...There's currently an issue with the web site Jenkins job, in that it > relies on a jbake that isn't available any longer... For Sing we use the jbake-maven-plugin [1] which IIUC does not require more than Maven on the build node.

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-266) Update the website redirect page of weex

2021-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-266?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17358618#comment-17358618 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-266: --- In the meantime I found the new README

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-266) Update the website redirect page of weex

2021-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-266?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17358600#comment-17358600 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-266: --- Thank you for this, to make sure I

Re: JPMS Projects?

2021-03-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:22 AM Daniel Widdis wrote: > ...Regarding "Apache" = "Quality", I'd be careful. Apache asserts [1] a > maxim of "Community over code" FWIW, the Maturity Model at [1] emphasizes being honest about the quality of a project's modules (QU10). As mentioned there,

Re: JPMS Projects?

2021-03-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:08 AM leerho wrote: > ...I am seriously looking at *redesigning* our JDK8 Library using Java Modules > leveraging JDK16+/Panama/FMA and completely replacing the need for Unsafe, > etc. (Not just adapting our JDK8 code to run on JDK9+ and accessing Java > internals

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Suitable Name Search Documentation

2020-12-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:38 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I suggest that we eliminate everything that is on the Incubator page > that is a “duplicate" and point to the source of record... +1 and we should do that every time we see such duplicates. -Bertrand

Re: Where to get feedback on a project before formulating a proposal

2020-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Daniel, On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:15 AM Daniel Widdis wrote: > ...none of the documents states exactly how I am supposed to recruit a > champion > and mentors or where I should find them This list is a good place for that, and the starting point is indeed finding a champion. You might

Re: Apache Training (incubating) granted all Apache committers commit rights

2020-10-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:59 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...We're opening up commit access to all Apache committers... Great! It would be nice to mention this at http://training.apache.org/ , in the "Getting involved" section maybe? -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] New builds server and who should access

2020-07-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:31 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: ... > At the very least, allow PPMC members access to the folder for their project? > ... +1, like we do with other infrastructure bits, I think each podling should get their own build folder (if they need it), with access granted to all

Re: Issue with releases / feedback from ASF board

2020-06-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:44 AM Leonard Lausen wrote: > ...Does adding the following notice pior to any mentioning of a third-party > binary release work for clearly informing users?... I haven't followed all the details but IIUC what you are doing is linking to third-party packages that can

Re: Running clutch?

2020-04-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:58 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...Yeah, I found those via [1]. I'm assuming since running clutch locally > isn't mentioned it isn't needed (it errored out on my system and I was > trying to decide if I needed to fix it). Thanks! That's correct, and one can also start

Re: Running clutch?

2020-04-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:37 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...After making a change to podlings.xml or projects/$podling.xml do I need to > rerun clutch or is everything handled within jenkins now?.. As per https://github.com/apache/incubator the Clutch build runs once a day,

Re: [VOTE] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph Extension

2020-04-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:12 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > We would like to propose AgensGraph Extension as an Apache incubator project. > As such, I am calling a VOTE... +1 with the understanding that the name will be changed before creating infrastructure. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

2020-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:30 AM David Nalley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:55 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > ...I’d suggest that if this is a know issue, that a different name be > > selected before entering incubation, as name changes cost Infra time and > > effort. > I'd wholeheartedly

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

2020-04-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:10 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > ...And an interesting observation is that, the AgensGraph project changed the > license to AGPL in the past and then after several month changed back to AL > 2.0... FWIW, I don't think these changes make a difference in terms of

Re: [DISCUSS] Project proposal - Apache AgensGraph

2020-04-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:32 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > The proposal can be found here: > o > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AgensGraphExtension ... +1, interesting project IMO and proposal looks good to me! -Bertrand

Re: "Fork Me" on GitHub (was Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ShardingSphere (incubating) as a TLP)

2020-03-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:27 AM Harbs wrote: > ...The compromise which seemed acceptable to most in that thread seems to be > to remove “GitHub” from the link... On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:46 PM John D. Ament wrote: > ...The problem is that "fork" means two different things, and that some >

Re: [MENTORS] https://www.apache.org/dist/ has been deprecated

2020-03-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:15 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > The new URL to use is https://downloads.apache.org. ... FWIW, https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/more-secure-and-robust-downloads has more info. -Bertrand - To

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

2020-02-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17041748#comment-17041748 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-250: --- Thank you! It would be good to improve

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

2020-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17041095#comment-17041095 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-250: --- The content of https://github.com

[jira] [Updated] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

2020-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Bertrand Delacretaz updated INCUBATOR-250: -- Description: Recent builds are failing at https://builds.apache.org/view/H

[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-250) Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing

2020-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
Bertrand Delacretaz created INCUBATOR-250: - Summary: Website build (part 1 - Clutch phase) failing Key: INCUBATOR-250 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-250 Project

Re: [IP Clearance] OpenWhisk - wskdebug

2020-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 4:07 PM David P Grove wrote: >... The IP Clearance form can be found at > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/openwhisk-wskdebug.html It looks like the website build is having issues (I'll report on that separately), the source XML file has the

Re: Hooray! DataSketches website is now completely moved!

2020-01-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:42 PM leerho wrote: > .-.Many thanks to Joonsuk Bae and Drew Foulks of the Infra team, our website > is now completely moved and being > dynamically updated!... Great, and the website looks nice and informative! I think it would

Re: eliminating MD5 and SHA1 signatures

2020-01-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:51 PM leerho wrote: > ...either the Maven deploy plugin or the repository always adds > MD5 and SHA1 signatures as well... FWIW, we'd like to stop using MD5 but I don't think we're there yet, the following URLs have more info:

Re: Incubator PMC members not subscribed to private list

2020-01-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Justin, On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:01 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Here the subjected text of the email to be sent out, feedback welcome:.. Looks good to me with two suggestions for clarity: > ...The IPMC is considering removing all IPMC members that have not signed up > to the private list...

Re: Incubator PMC members not subscribed to private list

2020-01-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Do we want to consider the drastic step of removing all IPMC from the PMC > who are not signed > up to the private mailing list? They could re-instated themselves by > subscribing to the private list... That would work for me,

Re: [VOTE] Accept YuniKorn into Apache Incubator

2020-01-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:47 PM Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote: > I'd like to call a vote on accepting YuniKorn into the Apache Incubator... +1 I'm copying the proposal text below, we usually do that to get complete mail archives. -Bertrand YuniKorn proposal Abstract YuniKorn is a

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-248) Incubation Overview page not found (404 error)

2019-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-248?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17000851#comment-17000851 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-248: --- That part of the website is still

Re: [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache Druid graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

2019-12-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:55 PM Gian Merlino wrote: > ...Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache Druid should graduate > to a Top Level Project.. +1 (binding) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

2019-12-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 7:45 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > ...I have a request to add Abdelatif GUETTOUCHE > as an initial committer as well.. The proposal shouldn't be modified once the vote starts, but note that it's easy to add committers once the podling is established. Being an initial

Re: [VOTE] Accept NuttX into the Apache Incubator

2019-12-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:30 AM 俊平堵 wrote: > ...I would like to call a VOTE to accept NuttX into the > Apache Incubator... Enthusiastic +1 (binding) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

2019-12-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:39 AM Greg Stein wrote: > > I say just move to a vote and stop the second-guessing. GNutt seems > on-board. Let them get their stuff done... Yes! Many thanks to Greg Nutt for your comments, to me this project looks ready to enter incubation, with some adjustments

Re: Incubator cookbook: Podling Releases update

2019-12-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:47 PM Craig Russell wrote: > ...I believe that the current cookbook recommendations need an update. [1] ... Thank you Craig and others for these suggestions, I have incorporated them as follows: -Added a new "Two-phase vote on Podling Releases" to keep the

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

2019-12-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:20 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) wrote: > > ...IMO, the name 'NuttX' is a kudos to Gregory Nutt, who has been > developing and maintaining the project for 15 years... I'm fine with having such a name for historical reasons and I agree that it's nice to recognize the hard work of the

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

2019-12-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 6:16 PM Ted Dunning wrote: > ...As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation right > now without messing up the move to Apache, I would have no worries... IMHO having a low bus factor is a concern for *exiting* incubation. I don't see it as a

Re: [DISCUSS] NuttX Proposal

2019-11-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:56 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...It might be OK with just a software grant from you if are the > copyright owner. Any other IPMC member have an opinion?... I think when Groovy joined Apache a few of its community members signed the software grant "on behalf of the Groovy

Re: Incubator cookbook: Podling Releases update

2019-11-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:47 PM Craig Russell wrote: > ...2. Votes on the dev list should automatically carry over to the general > list... I disagree with making this automatic. It's fine for whoever starts the IPMC vote to indicate that dev list votes carry over, including a link to

Re: [VOTE] Accept StreamPipes into the Apache Incubator

2019-11-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:00 PM Dominik Riemer wrote: > [X ] +1, bring StreamPipes into the Incubator.. With 5 mentors for 5 initial committers you should be well taken care of ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [DISCUSS] Host Dynamic Content on Apache Sever?

2019-11-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:33 AM 申远 wrote: >... Is there a way to migrate such dynamic content to https://weex.apache.org >?.. A project can get virtual machines, not sure what the current flavor of that is but https://www.apache.org/dev/services#virtual-servers mentions FreeBSD jails and

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write > access... >From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to confirm and

Re: [VOTE] Accept TubeMQ into the Apache Incubator

2019-10-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:48 AM David Nalley wrote: > ...I would like to call a VOTE to accept TubeMQ into the > Apache Incubator +1, binding -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Donation of subproject for PLC4X

2019-10-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 10:52 AM Lars Francke wrote: > ...while a name search is not necessary I'm sure you're aware that there's > already an Apache Crunch project which _might_ confuse people... Good point, thanks! While a formal podling name search is not needed, it's of course a good idea to

Re: Podling proposal pages

2019-10-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:59 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > I'm thinking of removing this page (and links to it) as it’s incomplete and > what is says > could give the wrong impression. [3] .. +1 to removing, I think https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ has sufficient info about entry into

Re: Donation of subproject for PLC4X

2019-10-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:59 PM Julian Feinauer wrote: > my company decided to donate our project CRUNCH [1] that has been developed > internally to the ASF > ...We need to find a name and go through namesearch, or?... No, that's only for Apache PMCs which need to have a suitable name.

Re: Incubator policy wording

2019-07-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Justin, On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:26 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > I reorganised the policy pages and that can be seen here. [1] Thanks! > ..The next task which I think would be useful to to simply that language on > that page... I have slightly reworked the beginning and added a link to the

Re: Feedback on board report / incubator release proposal

2019-07-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:30 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...No issue from me if you want to change the proposal to use this wording... Ok, I have updated the "proposal" section as above, with a minor tweak, "acceptable for such non-compliant incubating releases" -Bertrand

Re: Cookbook and duplication of content on incubator site

2019-07-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Justin, Thank you for addressing this, I was planning to work on this duplication of content but didn't get to it yet. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:44 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > With the cookbook added [1] I suggest that we remove this page: > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/process.html +1

Re: Feedback on board report / incubator release proposal

2019-07-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Justin, On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 3:38 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Here's a slightly updated version of that original proposal. [1].. Thank you for this, great summary! I have added a "summary" intro paragraph, fixed a few typos, simplified one phrase and suggest the following text to

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

2019-07-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the > Incubator PMC objects... I have merged that now, thanks for the comments and contributions there, the content is now live at http://incubator.apac

Re: Board@ subscriptions

2019-07-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Tom, On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:38 PM Tom Barber wrote: > ...Quick protocol question as the board isn’t fit for purpose and I’m fed up > of it clogging up my inbox Requiring subject line tags like [chairs] on board@ might help tremendously in keeping the traffic manageable by PMC chairs,

[VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

2019-07-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings. I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF"

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:06 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > - Keep the existing one called as it is... And have it mention the possible additional disclaimers, as DISCLAIMER-* maybe. >... Name the new one something like DISCLAIMER-PERMISSIVE, DISCLAIMER-ISSUES, > DISCLAIMER-INITIAL, or

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

2019-07-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:05 PM Dave Grove wrote: > ...This vote passed with with 6 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes... Ouch, and I missed voting! Here's my belated enthusiastic +1 ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: New Project?

2019-07-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:28 PM Alejandro Caceres wrote: > ...I've been looking at a lot of resources to how > best to submit this to Apache... Note that http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ might have useful information as well. -Bertrand

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:39 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]... Basically just adding this, right? > Some of the project releases may not follow ASF policy or have > incomplete or unknown licensing conditions It works

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

2019-06-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke wrote: > ...Projects wishing to join the ASF as a TLP would then at some point need to > abide by the rules (some of which probably also don't make sense but that's > a different discussion) but until then Mentors could just provide hints... Note

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:58 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...I wonder if we agree on the Core issue?... To me the core issue, as I said in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread is that the Incubator is perceived as a stern gatekeeper of the ASF, due to the way we act in general. To fix this I

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

2019-06-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote: > ...This vote is *confirming* that > nobody has objections (of any form) to Zipkin leaving and control of the > git repos being transferred... I agree and this means that in this case a [LAZY] vote would have been sufficient. -Bertrand

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

2019-06-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein wrote: > ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC... IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal is to *provide services to podlings so they can become top-level ASF Projects". Currently, many things

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:44 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > >...at the Incubator level I think there's > > way to many unclear or badly documented rules. > > Nope, sorry that’s at the ASF level I agree, the mess is on both sides ;-) -Bertrand

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means" > is the job of the Champion, no?... I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not oral tradition as that does not scale.

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:10 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > ...Here are some thoughts I have to improving Incubation FWIW, to give additional context for ASF Members, there was also a discussion about this started by Incubator PMC members, on the board@ list:

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:24 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...We have to make them understand that the ASF is more than a GIT repo, CI > Server and Mailing lists. > That the ASF has great things to provide (Legal Shield, Marketing, Infra, > ...) but that this only works > If you play along

Re: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin

2019-06-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:22 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and > > return back to OpenZipkin. +1 -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 12:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...IOW, base those exceptions on a strictly managed list of acceptable > issues... And add the URL of that list to the DISCLAIMER, so users know what to expect. -Be

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:53 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > I think that serious = release blocker; >...People / podlings have requested that release blockers be allowed in >podling releases... Ok, "release blocker" says much more to me than "serious issues" to which I objected as being too

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Training - Navigating the ASF Incubator Process 1.0 (incubating)

2019-06-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 5:10 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...We have 2 IPMC votes, and only require one more +1 IPMC vote +1 for the release of SHA512(apache-training-navigating-ASF-incubation-1.0-incubating.tar.gz)=

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 6:36 PM Rodric Rabbah wrote: > ...I don't have a diversity profile per employer. I can try to gather that. Do > you have a suggestion for the easiest way to do this? Maybe infra has some > tools?... Note that the ASF doesn't require people to disclose their company or

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Kevin, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:29 PM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >... I would urge you to see the lengthy thread on the matter... I won't - if the proposal implies disclaimers, tickets etc. those conditions should be included in the proposal, such that a single URL provides all the required

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenWhisk API Gateway (v0.10.0-incubating, rc2)

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:44 PM David P Grove wrote: > ...We now ask IPMC members to review this release candidate and vote > accordingly... +1, verified as follows: ./rcverify.sh openwhisk-apigateway 'OpenWhisk API Gateway' 0.10.0-incubating rc2 rcverify.sh (script SHA1: 6871 208F 37F8 2352

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js v1.14.0 (incubating)

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 11:37 AM James Thomas wrote: > ...This is a call for vote to release Apache OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js > v1.14.0 (incubating) ... +1, verified as follows: ./rcverify.sh openwhisk-runtime-nodejs 'OpenWhisk Runtime Node.js' 1.14.0-incubating rc2 rcverify.sh (script SHA1:

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:22 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I assume from your response that you disagree with the proposal or want it > modified? If so how?... I don't think it's reasonable to allow releases with "serious" issues. But let's see what the Board thinks. -Bertrand

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 8:46 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...The proposal can be found in the draft board report. [1]... If I was on the Board I don't think I would accept making releases "with serious issues in them" as mentioned there. Maybe I missed the discussion - what I would find

Re: Podling reports due Wednesday

2019-06-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 2:04 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Mentors don’t forget your podlings reports are due on Wednesday I was going to ask "where" and found https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 which IIUC is the right place. I suppose the table of links at

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:27 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I'm not sure the board will be viewing the results of the markdown but > just the raw text???... I think you need plaintext for the Board report but my idea was to get that by copying and pasting the output of the Markdown conversion:

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:19 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...Reflow so that they are human readable is a little hard to write down. :-) > Mostly it because of the wide > variation of formatting podlings submit their reports ... Doesn't the new Markdown format help with that? I experimented a

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:46 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...It’s still unclear to me how Whimsy will render this, guess we find out > when we submit it?.. I think the core of the Board agenda is the text file in svn, that's what needs to be clean AFAIK. -Bertrand

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 10:18 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...So INFRA kindly installed a markdown macro for confluence so you can now > see > the incubator report with some formatting when you edit it. [1].. Cool! I have removed my formatting experiment,

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Justin, I've put your test content in and added cat -s, the formatted result is at http://incubator.apache.org/report.html It doesn't look too bad to me - my point would be that if people can see the final formatted result at that URL they can fix their reports themselves (like for the

Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, It seems like there was some trouble and manual work to generate the Board report since switching to https://cwiki.apache.org/incubator As an experiment that should make this easier, I have created a small pipeline that starts from a text file in Git [1], uses a script to sanitize that file

Re: board report duplication

2019-04-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 4:59 AM Greg Stein wrote: > ...Within Infra at least, we use the philosophy of "Whimsy is great, but we > must be able to perform our work without it."... big +1 to that, many things have been fixed quickly by being able to just do things directly on the agenda text file.

Re: Write Access to Wiki

2019-04-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 12:58 AM Tianqi Chen wrote: > ...Wiki username: TianqiChen .. Done, sorry for the delay! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-234) Incubator Cookbook

2019-04-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-234?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16814129#comment-16814129 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-234: --- I like these but now we have to decide

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